Can’t believe any professional footballer would miss the target from there.

No, we haven’t. How can I accept your view if you don’t give it? Do you thing Mowbray has more positives than negatives based on his Championship record with Rovers?

So you believe that there are more positives than negatives about Mowbray’s time at the club. How about just his Championship games. Still the same opinion?

I’ve heard it all now. We only think Gallagher and Brereton are poor because we have Dack? Nothing to do with their own performances and goal stats?

This was the writing on the wall for me. https://theathletic.co.uk/1172076/2019/08/30/mowbray-exclusive-im-a-romantic-albion-fans-wanted-a-swashbuckling-team-but-im-more-pragmatic-now/ His most successful spell ever in football and he abandoned that style for pragmatism - whatever BS the Rovers media team put out on Twitter. He played for a 0-0 draw against Wigan while 1 point off the play-offs. The patronises fans by saying he wants to take the game to the opposition, if only those bloody players would listen. If they aren’t listening maybe there’s a reason. If they are... God help us!

Not for me. He’s had long enough and hasn’t fixed glaring problems, and had spent his budget very badly, resulting in our current problems. Why should that be rewarded? If Dack hadn’t got injured, he’d have been sold and the money gone. He’s made his bed and there is nothing about his approach that says he should be given more time or more money. It’s all well and good saying fine margins but this is Tony’s team - after four windows - and it still needs a major overhaul. Instead, he will stick with Gally and Brereton as wide men because he is just that stubborn. Enough’s enough. Just think if someone like Warnock had been given £15m - including his own wages for two seasons. We’d be challenging for promotion right now.

At this point, it’s kind a satire. He surely can think Rovers fans are that gullible? Getting harder to know what is a Mowbray quote and what is... @imtonymowbray off of Twitter. Our Tone knows what’s what, it’s just them bloody players... *cough* that he recruited and picked *cough*

Lol. That’s a development match that will be moved to 11am on a Tuesday.

I’m surprised all of the clubs haven’t come to an agreement... everyone going into admin at the same time but agreeing not to poach each other’s players. Immoral, perhaps, especially to affected non-football creditors but it might just be the reset that saves L1 and L2.

So Mowbray is the best manager we can ever hope for? And midtable championship is the height of our ambition? Get those season tickets on sale quick! Anyway, it barely matters. It appears Mowbray is yet another client from the ex-SEM stable and we are all being played for fools. Very much falling out of love with football at this point.

Yeah, that was the only thing I found. Boro is quite the coincidence, eh?

Cheers for that. On the one hand, I could be cynical about nothing having changed and it’s still the Venkys show (let’s never have anyone pretend that they were in any way naive). On the other hand, agents have their tentacles in football so far that it will be hard to get away from any particular brand. Maybe we just shop in the Poundland equivalent for agencies? Actually I’m going to go for the former. The loss making enterprise continues full steam ahead with another of the stable in charge but the fans no longer give a shit. #wewantourroversback

So it’s very possible that someone who sounds unsuitable as a replacement for Mowbray might actually do a good job? Maybe even better off.

Great photo Gav

The very thought of our out of contract players being signed instead of having replacements lined up should make us shudder. But it’s pretty standard these days. Any manager who had any pride or other job prospects would walk. Like Lambert did. A random list... - £180m debt and rising - Dire football - Falling attendances - Absentee owners - A threadbare, unbalanced squad after spending £15m in two season - Players played out of position (despite failing) game after game - Having three, maybe four players of any quality - Worry that these three or four players may be sold - Contract extensions given to marginalised players while simultaneously informing fans that times are hard - A chief exec carrying on regardless, backing his man to the hilt I thought rock bottom was relegation to the third tier but it looks like that might just have been the first bounce. Something needs to change. Before change is enforced on us.

It’s also quite funny that of the few people currently saying stick, not a single one of them would have put Mowbray’s name forward to replace Coyle. In fact, anyone who had done so would have been laughed off the site. By them! Apparently being sacked in the past is also a bad sign, never mind walking after no wins in 10 games. If it happened now at Rovers, those six draws would be pointed as as showing we are hard to beat! The contradictions are palpable.

Isn’t the manager of our U18s a SEM client? Sheron, presumably no relation... Smallwood, who has apparently recently had a short contract extension is also a SEM man. I’m curious where you’ve got your HSH info, I can’t find any record of them. There‘s a spurious domain which currently doesn’t have a landing page but nothing else.

Inspirational. I bet Gally can’t wait to get back out there.

When there was pressure increasing on Bowyer to go, fans said “who else could we get” and “nobody else would want to come here”. What’s “simply not true” about that?

If we listened to those people who say “there is nobody better” then Gary Bowyer would still be here and we’d be in the fourth tier.

There’s an argument that the FA and EFL should be looking into those comments on the back of such an abject surrender.

That’s still your opinion, which is fair enough. That’s different from whether those whose responsibility it is to hold Mowbray to account would actually follow through. That said it’s hard to know what to make of it. We shouldn’t ask Mowbray to leave because we might get worse (The Bowyer Paradox) yet if he was to walk away we would have to get someone new in anyway Surely getting a new man in should be something to be proactive about rather than reactive. The problem to date is that we seem to never have a plan so we let one manager go and then “take our time in finding a replacement”. Meanwhile we lose ground on results or we miss opportunities in the transfer market. Then if the caretaker does well he gets the gig for a while. But that still should not be a reason to continue with a manager who we know isn’t up to the task. It’s pretty standard at every other football club on the land. You hear it all the time “managers love and die by results”. Except at Ewood.

Of course you can. I‘m interested in your opinion, not you telling me what theirs is.

What results does he need to get out of those 10 games? Is 3 wins, 3 draws, 4 defeats enough? This cycle will go on and on.

It’s hard to pick out something he has done well in the Championship. His record shows that he loses as many games as he wins, so our league position fluctuates depending on which way the fixtures fall. Even after our flirtation with the play-offs looks to now be settling back down to a mid-table finish. The answer to the question probably depends on whether people think it is acceptable to just stay in the Championship season after season on a gradual decline followed by the odd fillip - which is the best Mowbray will achieve - while the debt continues to rise and rise. And more importantly will our tormentors continue to write off a few million pounds every season? And if there are fans out there who see Mowbray as a safe pair of hands to keep a steady ship (“it’s better than relegation”) then I’d ask them: what is the end game? what is going to change? And when? Is there some hope that Venkys will sell to someone who will fund us? Will this even be possible with FFP? Because it looks more likely the longer it goes on the closer we look to be heading towards admin. It surely is promotion or bust. If Mowbray isn’t the man to get us promoted, and if he’s about to go through the same phase that Bowyer did (players sold and freebies until FFP resets) then that looks unlikely. Much like Bowyer in 2014/15, this was the season when he had his opportunity and he blew it. He may well point to Dack’s injury but I’ll point to not improving our keeper or defence, and not replacing Dack’s goals. Side note, and maybe a cautionary tale, Bowyer was dismissed in November 2015 and Shaw left 4 months later. Surely changes should be made before a transfer window...