If we go down there will be plenty of "what do you expect on crowds of this size'? Shift the blame onto the fans has become the norm. Give fans something to excite them and they'll come. (depending on pricing of course). Always been the case.

Another one.

Well Chaddy had him ahead of Travis as a midfielder, looks like we are losing both! Like you I cannot see the sense of Garrett leaving. If there is any delay in getting replacements for those leaving or last minute cockups a minute before the window closes we are doomed. We were already short on numbers alone, anyone see our leaders coping with a significant inflow of new boys of the right quality? Surely we must have a striker coming? Madness to lose even Leonard if someone isn't lined up.

Rovers is a club where the fans seem to know their football better than those paid to run it. For example, it was obvious to many what the consequences of moving Kaminski would be.

Ah! Never watched it! No idea what I was doing when it was on!

Amen to that but they don't seem to be bothered what we peasants think.

I'm not on your wavelength there Len! To put another way I haven't a fucking clue what you're about. Did he make motor-bikes in the 50's?

Both? When we can't see a game out I think lack of experience is a key factor there.

Abbey I was insinuating (only half seriously) that Venkys are taking their revenge on us for perceived discourtesy towards them ie they know we hate them. TBH I haven't a clue why they cling on to the Club. I wonder if they do!

But surely its experience we are lacking? JDT has referred to that himself. More L Plates are not the answer.

If only they'd piss off they'd save themselves £20M a year---for doing nothing! The most expensive snowball in history!

I hadn't seen that so fair enough but, if he was picked he'd wish to stay wouldn't he? Having been left out so regularly it seems to me he's been given little choice. Its as good as being forced out.

You know Travis wants out? Evidence?

Which is all you ever do. That's not debate.

Most people want to avoid being in the trenches but that's where Venkys are dragging us. I was going to say "slowly but surely", however the pace seems to be hotting up.

What do the owners do when there's nothing left to sell?

There's a number of players who can't do what JDT wants them to----score for a start! This has nothing to do with playing style, its about freeing up a wage. The fact that it weakens our squad is of no interest to those who hold the reins.

Stockton Rovers?

Bang on.

Seems like we are hoping to stagger to the end of the season without being relegated. That is all the ambition the club has.

The team style that has gained 1 win and 1 draw and 6 defeats from the last 8 games? Are we so good that it's appropriate to lend our captain to a rival Championship team (albeit one that was in Div 1 last season?) Given their League position they must see something in him our leaders don't see. First we shunted Buckley out against his will and ballsed up the designated replacement, now we are lending our Captain to a rival to scrounge a bit more money. This has nothing to do with his talent---or whether he fits our style---we are completely broke, can't you see it? This is utterly shameful, how much lower can we sink? "The Family Club" eh? !!!

Agree but If they were they would be replaced by others who owed their jobs to Venkys. Nothing would change. All roads lead to India.

You talk as it we don't need back-up. Tronstad and Wharton won't play every game for one reason or another. Haven't you learned from our current injury crisis? We can't keep dragging kids in short pants out of school and expect to win in the Championship. I have no confidence that this is about anything but money. We want another club to pay his wages so we can buy/borrow someone cheaper.

So why sell him?

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