If the site had been around in 1991-2 how would you expect most fans to have reacted? Meltdown wouldn't have been unreasonable when we went from certainties to finish in top 2 to unlikely to be in the play-offs within a few weeks. In fact, as I remember, the fans were stoic and proud in the face of adversity, and, as we all know, their faith was fully rewarded. They trusted the owner, they knew they had one of the best managers in the world. Bit different now!

Its a circular argument. He doesn't play therefore we can't judge him, he's not good enough therefore he doesn't play so we can't judge him fairly. What bit we have seen does not bode well though.

TBF he might have had no choice with foreign recruitment. This could come back to the two audits that were conducted into the club over the summer. Possibly, Venkys have been convinced that the best way to make money on player assets is to buy British. Additionally, perhaps our international scouting system isn't up to it. When I think back to the foreign players its been such a privilege to see gracing our Ewood turf, I feel we and the team are missing out. I have no idea whether my hypothesis is correct or not but it makes logical sense. Anyway, perhaps their experience with Brereton should convince them that its not that simple!

BDS isn't pathetic and has a life so I doubt whether he'll bother! He'd like it to be true though.

"frustrated by his inability to fix our problems" is one way of putting it, failure to see or acknowledge them is another. Tragedy for Chaddy!

The transfer window was hailed a s a piece of master-craft on here at the time."Near perfect" was one comment I remember!

No---I change my mind often but NEVER, EVER would I have advocated giving Mowbray a 6 year extension on his contract. That is just plain dumb. I haven't done any trawling at all, so you can shove your "pathetic no life" stuff up your arse. I just remembered your original post but given your patronising attitude to "older people" I don't suppose that could have entered your head.

Nothing to do with one or two games, we are in a serious slump. Moreover ,the manner of defeat requires serious work.

We aren't too far away from what?

Now that you can't deny what you wrote perhaps you could answer your own question--"why would you specifically say 6 years?" Secondly, since you are so aware of what happens to people when they get older, perhaps you could explain why I, an older man, can remember accurately what you wrote and you can't even remember your own post? Too much sherry?

When Venkys took over our attendances averaged about 25000. something to build on there but look they did with it. Our attendances are a direct result of what they did. there was no historical inevitability about it, just rank incompetence (being kind and careful there).

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Yes, that perfectly sums up my attitude to them.

Burnley did it. Huddersfield did it. Their owners aren't as rich as ours. But what they lack in wealth they make up for in common sense and commitment.

I do! I might be older than you but my memories better!

We will never prosper under Venkys. Having put so much faith in Mowbray and extending his contract, I imagine they will be quite "confused". No rational decision-making to be expected I'm afraid.

You wanted to give him 6 more years. I said that was ludicrous at the time (without the benefit of hindsight).

Good job he didn't get the 6 years Big Dog was spruiking! A goal in the 90th minute should be a winner----for us! To concede 2 from there is soul-destroying and the manager has to take responsibility and the steps needed to ensure we don't have any more of this. Its been a feature of our games for far too long now that we throw away hard-won leads in the last few minutes. It's unacceptable. If the players aren't good enough---replace them. If that doesn't fix it we have to look at the manager. We can't go on like this,

Work it out.

Too loyal to those players who took us up = too cautious for me. Has to be braver, its not as if the cautious approach is working anymore. We are losing points from winning positions. Above all we need width.

I was there! ?

And to you! I could do without the kiss though if its all the same to you!

You'll be saying that when Brereton's playing non-league! Hindsight has already arrived if you care to look.

and a striker who isn't selected at that!

And the we'll sign a manager who's cheap and useless and begin a new cycle of desperation and alienation. That'll be the road we take. I did think that we might harness the impetus of last season's promotion effort but, as always with Venkys, its quite withering away.