Stop fucking moaning we got a point from another tricky game and we are going the right way so try and be a bit positive for once even eh, it won't kill you.

I just think with the first instalment now then two more 6 months apart and the Raya money will probably be enough to get the accounts signed off for another 12 months. Because it keeps the club solvent, depending on committed outgoings obviously, although no doubt they'd have to promise even further sales and budget cuts. It's not good whatever it is and not sure they could sign it off as owner guaranteeing funding because as far as we can see it they just can't unless the Indian court gives them written assurances.

Could they not just say the club is solvent for the next 12 months due to the Wharton instalments ?

Lets just look at the bigger picture. A week ago we were challenging the bottom 3 not the top 6 but now there's a six point gap and we are heading to midtable and that's what its all about right now. Excellent point well earned from a disjointed but defensively sound performance and the manager is doing exactly what hes been brought in to do. Anything else is immaterial right now and get another point or 3 on Saturday however it might come and we might be able to relax a bit and enjoy the Newcastle game.

Best football the U23s played in recent times was when Johnson was in charge and it was different to the bland over cautious stuff Mowbray tended to serve up a first team level. Leading to calls for the first team to align more with that style, then DJ got promoted to the backroom and hidden from view.......

It would be a strange situation where the DoF is sidelined form first team affairs and transfer activity unless of course on occasion the CEO tells him to oversee certain outgoings/incomings. Like i said before even if he only stays until summer i'd assume his task is to resolve the Leo and Telalovic conundrums by finding them football elsewhere. Maybe though Eustace might make something of Tel with a different style of play but not holding my breath and the prospect of him naturally moving up the pecking order to replace Gallagher in summer is worrying to say the least.

QPR accounts show another 20 mill plus loss taking them into around 350 mill of losses mainly funded by shareholder loans they'll never get back. So yet another one with '20 mill a season' tagline i wish a lot of our fans on SM land would acknowledge these instead of the blinkered view Rovers and Venkys are somehow unique in our situation. Interesting comment by a QPR fan 'only way out of this cycle of yearly losses is promotion OR relegation' which gives license to slash and burn and have a great reset 🤔 !

I think they've been singing that for a while to be honest but yeah tinpot in every way.

Yep iv'e no interest in cup progress if it contributes to relegation. We should be safely in midtable and looking upwards so we can enjoy the cup but right now it's just a hindrance that will no doubt zap more legs and create more injuries.

He has to be allowed to bring his own players in if GB is still here he needs to be working on behalf of the head coach not the other way around. It should be but i think we've seen he isn't up to that task he needs to be told who to go and get and not just box tick for the squad as he sees fit.

Corrected.

Just go back and find the stuff he was saying in the local media at the time it was pretty obvious he was hardly making much effort to keep them. If he's saying that in public what's he saying to then in private, it was the usual shoulder shrugging oh well if they can't get more here they might as well go elsewhere it's a short career they have families, mortgages etc. All amounts to the same thing. Doesn't really matter anyway because the amounts we are talking about wouldn't have added up to the Wharton fee so coming in instalments as it all does it would have disappeared instantly into running costs as per. Selling BBD at his peak for 15 million plus might have had a different outcome but the rest of them Waggot would just have earned his own brownie points telling the owners they could put a bit less in. So it probably wouldn't have made a great deal of difference knowing what we know now, budgets would be slashed anyway and only freed up wages allowed to be used. That's the model.

Yeah because those huge mythical fees were just that and even more fantasy was the idea anything would be re-invested. For the record Mowbray admitted he was telling them to go get more brass elsewhere the complete t##t.

I'm lost for words at these kind of signings given our circumstances as exactly what you expect to happen does happen it's always just when not if. They are saying he took a kick so hopefully it's something he can shake off but even so if you have a strong squad and a few spare quid and are just looking to fill the squad then yes it makes sense on minor gambles. In our position though where it's all hands needed at the pump and ever penny counts it's just stupid. But i suppose if we get 5 or 6 appearances out of him they consider it worth it.

Mowbray an Venus advising them to go elsewhere and get bigger money which of course would be larger because of being of frees with no fee. Tossers the lot of them.

Fleck coming here now is like Dack going to Sunderland. It's best we don't expect to see a lot of him.

Bucko has a hell of a lot to live up to his reputation has trebled in his absence.

He may have those capabilities and intentions but once its been derailed from upstairs he won't be doing it here. This is journey number 3 in the last 3 years and the train will be off the tracks again before we get anywhere near the station named 'Play Off City'.

That's why he's here Waggot will see to that.

The worst squad was the Coyle season for a host of reasons but i'd say this is the weakest but not the worst. Weakest because of rapid over reliance on cheap youth filling up a squad that has lost a lot of good players in a very short space of time. All this is due to chronic under investment leading to poor recruitment and a slashed wage bill killing any and every ounce of progress made in the last 2 years. Every last bit of that is directly and indirectly at the door of the chancers running the club and the ownership in India.

Hey Tony Mowbray has suddenly found Birmingham is near Teeside so Eustace shouldn't have a problem if old Tone can manage it.

Probably the best man for the job though or should i say the best type of manager for the job at this moment in time. Sadly his task is clearing up the people running the club and if we are honest JDTs mess. Trouble is with guys like JDTs style it always goes one way or the other there is no in between, Waggot and co however just love an inbetweener it keeps their cushy numbers safe.

Stop pretending to be the expert on everything and don't get arsey like a little girl when someone calls your bluff. I already said neither you, i or anyone else really knows what can and can't be done but you've already back tracked on your original hissy fit saying loans 'can not be cancelled.' Now move on, i have.

You've answered your own question there really, the squad isn't good enough the powers have let too many go and not replaced them. So any manager is up against it here now it doesn't matter who they are or what tactics they apply.

I think we are back to a W/L/D type pragmatic manager again i just hope it isn't a bit too late but 4 points from the next three needs to be the bare minimum.