Mowbray and co have spent money over the last few years, mainly on wages stretching the payroll to busting. A slither of that on backroom staff and drones etc so he/they have made their own large contribution to where we are now. Made their own bed in many ways so that's left us where we are having to rely on kids and loans. He knew the cuts were coming midway through last season he hinted at it more than once. So as far as some are concerned he has presented this plan to the owners himself in order to reign in FFP and cover his own arse again. I just do not get people sympathizing with him he's on an absolute doddle here he knows what hes doing. If he didn't like it or like the wages he'd have gone home by now.

Can you please explain these large amounts of uninvoiced cash on these premises ? 'It was the staff that did it, we know nothing'

He's never concerned about anything though is he lets face it, apart from player welfare that is. Easiest job in England.

'Siphon' that's an interesting word.

Venky finance director and on the board of BRFC i believe although i'd be amazed if hes ever set foot in the place.

Perhaps the head company pays the wages and bills every season whilst Barry and pals chuck a few extra quid in for the odd player or two now and again ? That would certainly fit the 'investment' line, he also might slip a few quid in other ways via commercial income etc to keep the wheels turning. I know they are rich but not sure he has enough personal dough to flush 20 million a year down the toilet plus fund his other investments.

Vs have chucked tens of millions upon tens of millions in the cover their mistakes and prop up the club. All that is undeniable but the club was an absolute steal and bargain for them in the beginming. 23 million + 16 million overdraft and 3 million outstanding to the Trust but all the facilities stadium, training ground and academy. Then Phil Jones, Chris Samba and Kalinic all sold for a combined total of what the club cost ! If only they actually knew what a gem they had bought.

It will just never happen under this lot like Gav keeps telling us. In fact they've gone to great lengths down the years to make sure it doesn't. Anybody will BRFC at heart and genuine knowledge of the club and football in general presents a threat to them because they'll advise things Venkys close advisers don't like. They prefer to manipulate the ownership for their own interests. Meanwhile the ownership prefers to go along that route because their advisers do as they are told when the owners decide on something they want. Vicious circle going round and round whilst the club flounders but those in the middle playing both sides make their money. Been the case ever since these lot turned up it's just some of the characters have changed. Like any soap opera though the same plot lines get repeated every few years. End of the day neither management or the owners want it enough and neither set is capable of delivering it anyway.

Hes been like that for two whole years now and like some of our fans it looks like he thinks he's the only man in world football capable of managing this football club. The championship Pep Guardiola with a hint of Jurgen Klopp thrown in. Unbelievable.

I see another draw here in this probably of the 1-1 variety.

When you play the way we do you need a line leader despite us doing ok that has been evident in every game so far. Gallagher might do it but in a clumsy grafting way rather than hold up or serious goal threat way. Not sure that will see us prosper in the long term although it's better than seeing him losing the ball as wide striker all afternoon. We need something in the spearhead of attack though that's for sure. Instead we are as predicted in for a season of rotation gone off the radar in that position. Mowbray is in heaven like a bagheed getting his brown when able to mess around like that.

Really hope he signs as he might have his flaws but chances of this setup replacing him with better is zero point zero. As a player i think it's fair to say he's reached his limits here but coming up to peak years hopefully he'll settle down a bit. Reminds me a bit of a lower level Andy Todd and god knows we need a few hard men at present.

100% I don't know why it's so hard for some to digest this as it's all facts. Even his staunchest minority should be able to acknowledge it. He's never had a top 6 challenging budget but we've never even landed in the top 10. That's under performing with whats been at his disposal at Ewood.

Yet the love in for him still goes on with a few. Apparently he's been robbed of his best players Evans and Bennett being slashed from the wage bill. The guys who he would bring on to see out games like that........like when exactly did that ever happen ? Some sadly put him before the team and club and will make any and every counter excuse for him. Have to say though this bunch of disciples is getting smaller and smaller.

We've been under the cosh in most games this season for big parts of games and i feared it would catch up sooner or later. Today it did they looked knackered a lot of players out there not developed mon strength yet. I fear that's going to be a big problem this season that's why we need to kill games off.

It'll be under 10k for sure on Tues unless they are doffing another 1000 free tickets out to kids. Or Hull bring 2k.

Nothing we haven't seen before dozens of times in the last 4 years. Same manager same patterns to things same things happen. Trying to kill a game off and using your attacking talent you've been collecting OR fiddle about with it. Something you keep trying to make work whilst using it as an exercise to get some mins into some other players. Ref was the worst by a country mile seen in years at Ewood for both sides really. Cramp was the least karma could serve him. Game and points thrown away today, excuse ready made all season though for that very crafty guy in the dugout.....Young team young team young team. Still told what to do by the same guy though, complicating straight forward things. Not what you should be doing with such a young side !

I'm another Assam lover and recent convert it's the only one i can find that hits the spot. Has to be leaf tea for me and Yorkshire is second choice although can go Tetley in the tea bags. Have to double up though, 2 in the strainer 😆 PG, Typhoo etc is rank imo and most of the other stuff is too weak. Like a coffee as well but it doesn't like me in the morning so usually have one around 7pm, any later and it's no sleep till 3am !! Also being an ageing athlete i often like to start the day with a green tea about 6.30am -- only so i can save the delight of a proper brew till a bit later.

Exactly. What some managers and ceo's in this league would give for a 15/20 million backing group of owners, a top class academy and training ground. And to be left in situ year on year with zero pressure whilst providing jobs for their pals and holding onto their best and favourite players as long as they can. Despite the brainwashing and hogwash that gets spouted this club and job is still the envy of many in the championship and just below it.

He's not far off though to be fair, just needs to swap 'good' to 'underachieving in recent years' and hes nailed it. 🙂

Useless if correct although so far he's been unimpressed with the managers pitch, failed a medical and pulled a strop over bonuses ! Oh, also it was all made up and he never set foot in the place, others prefer to still assume it was the owners pulling the plug. Whatever it was it doesn't reflect well yet again, must be about the 5th in the last few windows that a range of garbled excuses have been offered for a non signing.

He's been on a hiding to nothing with this one so we can't blame him it sounds like hes dug his heels in which is good. I was expecting him to cry about Ben not being able to go and be prepared to role over if there was a loophole.

Maja is the one we are on about being in the building i assume. Not seen that he's joined anybody better than us though might be wrong. From what iv'e read it was basically a done deal all set up but somewhere between him turning up to sign and deadline it's not happened.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's poss massaging the truth a bit.

Of course he'll say it if that's what he thinks especially if it's a player who he might not really want but just needs bodies. Then it's up to the lad himself, TM prides himself on his 'honesty'. It's well documented that other people bring in players so if the manager isn't that keen having been presented with someone i think it'll show in face to face talks. He's already said it wasn't financial and i haven't seen that he's signed anywhere better.