Barmcake ! A survey of North West chippies would turn up more menus saying chip barm than tea cake.

Let me guess, 'we shut out a good Coventry side with our bare bones team so it's another point in the bag. We continue the journey, which started yesterday again in light of recent shite results'

Main issue at Rovers is how income disappears down the black hole. That's understandable with the running costs but this kind of scheme is dangerous. Get PP then sell land then suddenly find there isn't enough to do the intended because something else suddenly needs attention. So the lands gone, most of the money is gone and there's no state of the art facility just a spruce up job. Then the word will be it's had to be postponed until we get to the Prem or sell someone for 50 mill. Very shaky ground this kind of thing at this moment in time, what if there are more lockdowns in future years ?

Never forget the Kean comments nor the photo of his best pal Orr mocking the club crest. His opinions are no more valid than any other fan whatever they might be. Away from that some of the personal stuff at Mowbray is a bit out of order. Although the drizzle cake stuff is more banter than anything and has been around ages. Anybody getting offended at that is a bit of a plum. Trouble is once fans feel they are being dug at and the longer a manager like him detaches himself from every awful run he presides over, the more nasty it'll get. If he'd outstayed his time at his beloved Boro it would've got a lot more tasty than it is here.

Everybody loves a bit of virtue signalling on there it's the order of the day towards allsorts just at the min. And that's all it is, no sign of most of these after every poor defeat and when he's lashing out. Do a sob story and twist it around so suddenly he's the victim ( on about 500k per yr ) and they sniff it out a mile away and are all over it. Lose today there'll be nothing but a handful hanging about again. As for Dunn is there a more self interested person out there than him ? Isn't he an agent now as well as house salesman, land owner, failed manager and coach ? If Mowbray had bounced him out the club i suspect he'd be shouting from a different hymn sheet. At least Gallagher has the balls to speak up.

Tide will turn today, despite all the stuff surrounding the man with no responsibility who just turns up trying to win football matches. Then just shrugs his shoulders, waffles for ten mins and goes home when we don't. Despite all this the team is still better than its been showing recently so something has to give. Still think we'll finish the season in better form. Then we'll be in exactly the same dilemma this time next year whether it's a fitter squad or not. Tea & biscuits anyone ?

I certainly think the club have PR people reading and feeding stuff back. The number of times it's sounded like he's answering stuff directly that's been mentioned on here is noticeable. Might just be coincidence but there's been quite a bit of it.

Another sickening PR job that's barely left a dry eye on some social media platforms. Polar opposite to what he was trotting out the other day, i'm not sure he's devious i just think he's muddled again. Right from when he walked in the door i thought he looked like a man caught between two minds. That's probably why he's never been a top end championship manager because he does have his good points. Something though is lacking and i'm convinced it's the conflict within his own mind. His stuff on the pitch and in recruitment screams it loud and clear.

Much needed resounding win and welcome 3 points versus Tony's whipping boys. Changes absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things but the marginal gain journey will be back on track.

If it's followed the same level of care and attention the pitch and ground have.....

It seems part of his role is that of 'think tank' to come up with handfuls of ideas, pitch them and hope to get one signed off. If that's the role of a football club consultant i think i'd like to have a crack at that job. The only thing so far i can see that he's pushed through is the waggot tax and shutting the Darwen end. That's a tiny matchday saving offset by the loss of those who jacked it in instead of being shunted about. And a moderate matchday income increase offset by the ones who decide to go at the last min jacking it in on principle of being penalized for doing so. Doesn't exactly inspire much faith neither does the tying up of 12 million in two fanciful punts, i presume he had some input in that as CEO. Perhaps he's trying to atone.

He's clearly angry it leaked out and there can only be one of two reasons.... They wanted to trumpet about it in a big fanfare that would have come in handy covering this seasons washout. or It was intended to be done and dusted as stealthily as possible for as long as possible. Just wondering if it all isn't about the balance sheet in the short term. The moving & rebuilding of a state of the art pie in the sky site will take years. And years after that for it to bear any fruit. Still 'the boys are struggling to train properly due to the renovations' will come in handy for future under performing reasons.

It's an over ambitious plan for a side piddling about in midtable in the championship. All the clubs efforts and focus should be directed towards trying to get promotion, even a play off or 3 would rake in extra cash. It really sounds to me like another fanciful plan sold to the owners with big promises of things to come. All part of this 'journey' sales pitch you might say. Get to the Prem the running costs would be covered or there'd be finance to do the project. Until then it would be better left alone its got crackpot scheme written all over it when you consider the last 10 years.

These lot have their feet firmly under the table, regardless of midtable mediocrity forever. They have big plans for themselves, sorry, the club by the sounds of it.

I did notice the eyes averting from fixed gaze and the twitching and blinking when it went off football into the housing etc 🤔

Swaggo has spoken apparently. Anybody listened ?

Yes that's one of the many upsides to it i think quite a few are now fed up with his cack handed methods. Like with a lot of fans though the nice guy tag goes a long way to over compensate.

Yep, the initial success of Mowbray and finding a CEO to go along with it was dropped on by shear chance. A line of duds supplied by the same agents and the law of averages meant one finally fit what was needed at the time. Typically of them and their arrogance they probably thought finally 'this it it we've struck gold we knew we were right all along'. Then just tossed everything over to these lot in a similar way they did to the rat and fat dancer. They still just don't get it and now instead of just gently moving on this manager, then getting one with a bit of pedigree it's likely to turn into another long drawn out expensive circus. Gods know where it might end but fans will end up blaming fans again for sure. People back in the ground all vaccinated and ready to kick off with each other again no doubt. Now if they actually got this right we could really go places.

If any of those rumours are anywhere near the mark it's the tricky situation a lot of us predicted it might come to. Allowing a manager so much power and surrounding himself with all his mates is great when things are going ok. Soon as they aren't and you want rid there can be huge problems. Be easy to boot them now but such are these noble and honourable football people you've no idea how many nasty spiteful things they might do. Some players might down tools ( not that it would make much difference ). Others might begin plotting exits, possibly assisted by the departing cronies.... That's why it needs a real set up getting in place ready to step in, give everybody something to cling to. Players need a reason to stay focused and a real aim for next season. And the club as it always has under these owners desperately needs a good honest set of football administrators. Not agents or manager recommendations or part time corner shop chancers. A proper set up with the right remit.

Comments most of this season have seemed aimed at placating the owners as much as the fans. Owners who still clearly don't follow it closely enough to see there's been spoonfuls of bull to cover the flaws. Flaws that have recurred here for years now, SILL no proper defense or back up after 4 frigging years. That's nowt to do with injuries as pointed out apart from Ayala it's the same lot who've proved they aren't up to it consistently. The center pairing now is as bad as the one we ended up with in the relegation season at times. Brown & Greer and an injury prone loan, too old/weak, now too young inexperienced and weak. Damn good job those early season wins are still propping us up otherwise we'd be really in the mire. Some journey this is.

He knows he's annoyed people now on top of the results being a disaster so now he's playing the self pitying card. In between saying you'll have to pay me off cause i'm digging my heels in otherwise. Don't worry loads are lapping it up, poor Tony what do our fans really want etc etc. Most of these numptys with those comments clearly do not watch the team regularly.

Only from whatever big Baz is smoking.

I said the same last mid season, i'm just trying to look at it from their angle and his. If they are all as fond of each other as is made out then doing it the right way is the answer. Imagine if they are holding off removing him because they don't want to upset him ? Lambert had a similar exit although he obviously had a clause but it was an amicable split and saved this type of mess developing. If it was up to me i'd have sacked in the last winter slump or replaced him in summer. This season i'd have sacked him ages ago as soon as it was obvious it was going up in smoke. I'm still angry at the ridiculous nature of the way they folded after lockdown after again being in a good position. He kept up the possession football when we had nothing to lose in just going for it. That was passed off as the transition bullshit and so this season we are largely seeing the result of that. It doesn't deliver and neither will he, ever !

That's a huge part of the problem here especially with detached ownership. Any big football club should have a structure in place that allows for change with no more upheaval than is needed. Change is part and parcel of football. No chance of that here when they get a guy they like they let them run it like a franchise. And when it isn't like that there is nobody or a collection of dummies.

Strachan nooo thanks, a dinosaur i'd rather punt on Roy Keane No need to bother though nowt'll happen.