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arbitro

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  1. I don't disagree with your general point about the mindset but for the sake of a five minute email I think it might be worth the bother. My feeling is that if the powers that be can understand the depth of feeling they might change their minds about how they are going about this.
  2. I have emailed Lynsey Talbot outlining my concerns and worries of the long term damage the statement yesterday could do. I have had a reply to tell me if has been forwarded to the Commercial Department. I also sent links to three other Championship clubs websites who ARE offering refunds. I would urge anybody who is aggrieved by this to email the club. They have to understand the depth of feeling.
  3. I think you are right but that in itself isn't a level playing field as a good few clubs are in receipt of parachute payments which could well influence their decision to bring FFP in and give the club's with larger incomes an advantage.
  4. That might be the case but if Smallwood plays beyond June 30th he will have to have a new deal albeit short term. And that will add insult to injury in light of the clubs absolute reluctance to offer refunds to season ticket holders for missed games.
  5. I'm sure there was no appeal. The challenge was a shocker and appealing could have been deemed frivolous and resulted in an extra game
  6. At the Supporter Meeting I'm sure Cheston said we would be FFP compliant. A lot has happened since then but surely the possibility of going over the threshold doesn't depend on giving refunds.
  7. It's probably been forgotten as it was a while ago but Buckley is suspended for the next three games after his red card at Derby. But playing Smallwood is a strange decision. Maybe he will get a new short term deal.
  8. FFP didn't bother the owners when we were spending £12m on two duds or giving Mulgrew a new three year deal or paying Gladwin to use our facilities. I could go on about squandered money but now, because the club has once again made a mess of something simple the supporters are going to be the ones who tip us over the P&S cliff. Are they trying to put anybody who wants a refund on a guilt trip? The senior management, even with their deferrals or deductions will be on significantly more money that the vast majority of fans. And you know what, they don't even pay to watch the games like we do. As I said earlier I was happy to forsake my money and I'm not interested in watching football on a laptop but I won't be taken for granted by the club.
  9. If that's true then they should just say that. Personally I don't believe it. We have extremely wealthy owners and players who don't play on mega money not too mention Waggotts handsome salary. I would have forsaken the refund for the two season tickets I pay for until I saw the communication today. To play the sympathy card to try and keep people's money is a low blow. It's almost like they are forgetting that some fans have been on a reduced income for three months and in some cases list their jobs. I will be writing to the club tomorrow asking for a refund.
  10. Smallwood and Mulgrew got some game time today against Liverpool. Very strange.
  11. You should email Waggott and let him know why you won't be buying a season ticket when they are on sale again. The more people that write to him to raise objections and point out the potential consequences the better. The best email address is ltalbot@rovers.co.uk . Lynsey is the Supporter Liaison Manager. You could mark it fao Steve Waggott.
  12. The home advantage of BCD football worked well there ??.
  13. I might be being a bit thick here but can you show me specifically where it says there is a refund for anybody who wants one? I read it as the opposite to that. They are actually asking fans not to request refunds. https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2020/june/rovers-provide-further-update-on-streaming-service/
  14. I'm sure they will hide behind P&S. I have paid up front for a product I am not going to receive. In any other industry that would entitle me to a refund or partial refund (unless Force Majeure is included in the terms and conditions) which is covered under your consumer rights. I don't want to watch ifollow and would have happily just given over the money or taken another option which other clubs are offering. I am that irked by the one agenda message to make me feel guilty about asking for a refund that I may well ask for a refund and donate it to the Community Trust.I Once again Rovers aren't covering themselves in glory here.
  15. But isn't that just typical of the current incumbents in power at our club. They have known about the Championship starting for several weeks now so bad plenty of time to put out the options to loyal supporters but instead they put out a statement essentially saying take the ifollow option or tough. This is a really delicate time for football clubs with regard to their fan base and Rovers have just peed off many of them in one fell swoop. Well done Waggott.
  16. I read the article and didn't read anything that clearly said refunds. I don't want to watch ifollow and if Waggott had put several options on the table I would have said to them just keep the money. What is wrong in my view is Waggott taking advantage of us.
  17. I knew they would play the skint card and try and garner sympathy. Don't we have wealthy owners? If they offered different solutions like Derby did I would have probably just let them have my cash but the Hobsons Choice they have offered is unacceptable to me.
  18. I saw Sitting in Limbo on BBC 1 last night and really enjoyed it. It was about the Windrush scandal and How appallingly had people were treated. How on earth the likes of May can sleep at night is frightening.
  19. Sky originally had our game against Leeds scheduled for live coverage but in todays schedule it isn't. I think the tv fee is £100k for home teams and this, coupled with the lost revenue from Leeds ticket sales would total around £300k.
  20. Derby made the announcement below last week. It pretty much covers everything and should be the template for all the Championship clubs. JHRover brought this to our attention last week. https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2020/06/derby-county-refund-and-exchange-policy
  21. Thanks for posting this Den. Big Jim with his lamb chop sideburns was one of my first heroes. That goal against City is still fresh in my mind as he rose and got a perfect connection on the ball. I can still hear the Blackburn End singing 'Jim, Jim bang one in'. RIP.
  22. The meeting has been put back to Tuesday. Interestingly the article stresses that June 20th is only a provisional and that there is feeling amongst some managers that it's too soon. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52914059 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52907396
  23. Aside from two or three weeks the players have all had fitness programmes specifically designed for each individual during the lockdown period. And by the time the season restarts they will have been back for nearly four weeks. On Rovers specifically I have read several interviews praising the players fitness levels. So I don't but the susceptible to injuries line. Extra substitutes is something that some managers have been pushing for for some time now.
  24. How can the rules change part way through. Earlier in the season having the opportunity to use five substitutes may well have brought about different results and different tactics from clubs. Of course we'll never know for sure but I but I don't believe there has ever been a precedent for such a radical change part way there season. Your point about signings in January is moot because the rules are in place at the beginning of the season, not being changed part way through.
  25. Look no further than Huddersfield for a prime example. Two seasons in the PL, parachute payments and now crying poverty.
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