Putting up prices by up to 25% during a pandemic for a season where no-one could attend and reducing the season ticket base by 70%. The underhand and eventually aborted attempt to flog off Brockhall. Failing to tie down the likes of Brereton/Rothwell/Nyambe/Lenihan O Brien plus embarking on an appeal we had no chance of winning. Mcguire

Players could argue they weren't given "reasonable notice". Is a player revolt against Waggott the best hope?

But you could say EXACTLY the same about Mowbray couldn't you? Gallagher at RB for 10 mins then subbing him?

I note you aren't jumping down those posters' throats because they're blaming someone else (JDT) for our demise other than the owners!

What else do you expect at a Club "with no pressure on results?"

The "squad" he left was minus half a team, Nyambe, Lenihan Rothwell and loanees JPVH and Khedra. You must be on a wind up.

The only silver lining you might take from this is that as Suhail wasn't there the meeting might have happened without the consent of either him or the owners, the players complain and he gets his marching orders. Clutching at straw I know but straws would appear to be all we have at the moment.

Yeah - after promotion from League 1.

Going back to JDT - it sort of pales into insignificance a bit given the Club's entire future is on the line and the head coach may be about to walk out - but we still have the little matter to attend to of winning enough points this season to stay up. The players can't be expected to perform to their full potential if they don't know if the Coach is fully committed or if he's staying or going. Either we need to know whether he's staying until end of season at least or going and being replaced and that needs to be done and dusted before the next match.

Don't blame you for going as you didn't know what was transpiring but ultimately the only effect of the meeting as far as I can see it is that the fans will now view the players (with some justification) as a bunch of slapped arses and the players having been told some home truths about the ownership will be even more demoralised than they were before and wondering how they've ended up here at such a dysfunctional Club. And that's before you take into account they don't even know whether or not the Coach is going to walk out in disgust. If Waggott was hoping this meeting would provide a bridge with the fans and have some sort of galvanising effect he's even more stupid than he appears. If he was hoping to drive a further wedge between players and fans, this should do it perfectly. Did anyone have the courage ( despite all the other problems you listed) to stand up and say the players were being a bit precious complaining about the atmosphere when we were losing match after match after match?

Presume that's a typo, and he meant to put that Waggott's reasoning is that he was claiming Adam DID want the move. So guilt tripping him out of the Club by saying we'd be in peril if he didn't go, then trying to swindle him out of a loyalty bonus to which he was contractually entitled. Just the sort of conduct you'd expect from a classy operator like Waggott.

That was a meeting between Don Revie's senior players and the Chairman. They hung Cloughie out to dry. Not a meeting where the fans were present as well. Just when you think you couldn't see yet another new low under this regime up it pops! WTF was Waggott thinking? Look at the reaction of the players! And who could blame them! Venky's /Waggott/Broughton out! Instead it looks like we're going to lose the one member of senior management with a shred of integrity instead.

Didn't think you'd find anything wrong with it.

Thank you. In layman's terms what's the difference between the two? Hard to see what involvement these two would have had in fucking up the mechanics of a loan deal.

We might be at cross purposes. I was asking who Mr. Hassan was and he replied Finance Director" He might have thought I meant Cheston?

I thought rhat was Cheston. What is/was his job description?

Can always rely on you for a bit of gallows humour. Please keep up the good work.

You're going through some pretty tortuous mental gymnastics to absolve GB of any blame I'll give you that. End of the day he's ultimately responsible for failures on the football side as DOF. Just as Venky's are ultimately responsible as owners

It's been suggested that these two have left the Club. Why shouldn't we discuss it? Like SG I've never heard of Mr Hassan or what role he holds/held at the Club so I think it's worth clarifying.

Where else did Broughton have to be other than check everything went through smoothly?

Nor sure I believe that if you were looking at screen you'd see it hadn't been sent. Sounds like someone trying to make theomission more understandable to me.

I noticed that. Thought I'd let it slide. Lol.

Obviously it's insanity but in reality it probably wouldn't have mattered if the purchase option was £100m we clearly never had any intention to make the deal permanent. Were maybe hoping he'd see us through this season.

It does seem a stretch at times to believe that this is error When a) It's happened twice b ) It never seems to happen with outgoing deals and c) It only seems to affect the higher profile/ higher cost incoming deals. If you take the view it is sabotage I'm not certain it's the owners agreeing to deals in the first place then pulling the plug on them at the last minute. As bad as they've been as owners and boy do they need to sell up now that particular scenario doesn't make any real sense. I'd be more inclined to think it was one of the bean counters at Ewood like Pasha/Waggott worried about missing their targets and putting a spoke in the works. Either way we either have owners who are agreeing to deals and then pulling them at the last minute and making the Club a laughing stock and the management at Ewood are just going along with it and continuing to draw their salaries or we have rogue employees sabotaging deals either deliberately or by incompetence and no-one neither the owners nor the rest of the management are doing anything about it.

We're trying to convince the dimmer parts of our fan base that really this is only a minor error and that our superslick legal team have got a watertight case and therefore that if there is any justice in the world that the nasty EFL should just wave it through.