Do you research on that tour. Might open your eyes, like.

John Snow was physically attacked by a convict spectator on the 1970 tour. so you're wrong on that one.

They didn't sound sarcastic to me, more an incitement to riot. Appalling comments by a supposed national coach.

It was good to see them picked but they both played poorly today - perhaps first Test nerves. Stick to the golf Gordon.

Lehman admits to never walking and then accuses Broad of cheating. Irony hasn't reached the outback obviously. I don't like Lehman but then I don't like any of that lot. In the words of Keggle Keggle I would absolutely love it if Broad shoves Lehman's words back down his throat this winter. I wouldn't have played Woakes or Kerrigan - on today's viewing neither look ready for Test cricket yet. With the return series only a few months away it's important we end the series on a high note and win this game.

Just to remind ourselves. the real "cheating scum". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cricketers_banned_for_match_fixing

Good to see Lancashire spinner Simon Kerrigan called up for the 5th Test squad. Woakes too, replacing the injured and perennially unlucky Onions. Presumably Tremlett will replace the injured Bresnan in an otherwise unchanged starting XI.

Shame as Bresnan does seem to have a lot of injury problems - he's only just recovered from a bad elbow injury. Hopefully he'll be Ok for the visit to the land of dust and flies this winter. I expect Tremlett to come in. He's another injury-prone player but is a very good bowler who gets good bounce on hard pitches and did well on the previous tour.

1. England players haven't walked but so what ? Rightly or wrongly, international players don't walk - including India's. 2. Sometimes DRS favoured England, sometimes it favoured the opposition. Do you think a machine honestly is as bent as Indian umpires ? 3. It's obvious you wanted the opposition to win and are probably aghast they did not. This is the last time I respond to your pathetic posts.

No I don't. It's obvious now you started this thread not to discuss the Ashes but use it as a vehicle to slag off England. Now kindly fack off.

In view of your country's record on proven cheating (rather than your own view of cheating) you are in no position to judge. Meanwhile I'm sitting in the sunshine enjoying another glass of Ashes ale. Lovely.

So why are your favourite players (who just happen to be Indian) "world-class" when others (who just happen to be English) are not ? Unless you are prejudiced of course. From wikipaedia: Cook took over as permanent England captain for the Test series against India in the winter of 2012. In each of the first three Tests – the first a defeat and the second a ten-wicket victory – he scored a century. This, together with a century in each of two Tests in Bangladesh when he was captain, gave Cook five centuries in five Tests as captain, a record number. His scores on the tour also included 119 and 97 in the warm-up matches. The ten-wicket victory in the second Test was lauded by the media as one of England's greatest victories, and Cook's run of hundreds brought him level with the English Test record for most centuries. On 6 December 2012, Cook became England's leading scorer of centuries after making a hundred against India in Kolkata. On 7 December 2012 he captained England to its first Test series victory on Indian soil since 1984–85, as well as overtaking Mike Gatting as England's highest ever run scorer in India. It seems Cook likes playing against India - is that why you don't like him ? As for cliched "negative" captaincy stuff I'll take negative over positive any day in view of England's success under him. By his standards he's played poorly this series but he's had dips in form before and come back stronger.

I enjoy watching the way Cook plays the cut shot and in particular the ball off his legs, which is one of the most difficult shots to play. He's probably the best batsmen in world cricket on leg stump because anything pitched in that area usually goes for a boundary. Trott is a lovely batsman to watch when he is on form. Both are players out of the top drawer. "World class" is in the eyes of the beholder - you only see "world class" when it is wearing an India cap.

You've admitted to "hating" the England cricket team and labelled them "cheats" when it's been pointed out to you more than once with proven facts that the Indians are the biggest cheats in world cricket. You're not fair. Some people would say you're prejudiced.

It's very easy to rubbish your "argument". Cook averages 48.1 in Test cricket, Pietersen 48.3. Of India's so-called "world class" (your words) batsmen Sehwag and Dravid's Test averages are better at around the 50 mark but Ganguly, Laxman, Dhoni, Ghambir at 42.1, 45.9, 39.7 and 44.1 respectively are significantly worse. Only batsmen of the highest class have Test averages in the high 40s or more.

Likewise Cook, Trott and Pietersen for England. Broad's had better allround games for England because he's a better batsman than those two. And when he's in his pomp like yesterday he's also a better bowler. Now fack off and let us enjoy our win.

Take away Tendulkar's runs over the years and where would India have been ? Daft argument. I must say Broad's bowling spell yesterday was poor quality. Lie back and think of England - and enjoy the moment.

From what I have read they don't have any better - this lot is as good as they get. But who cares about them anyway ? This is time to celebrate another glorious England triumph.

Prior's been a disappointment with the bat that's true, but then so have Cook and Trott while Root and Bairstow.should not be in the team because they aren't good enough at present (please don't point out Root's 187 because he was dropped on 8). I feel England have won this series despite firing only on 2 or 3 batting cylinders for most of the time (which just shows how poor the opposition are but who cares?). However when we have needed someone to stand up and be counted either Swann, Broad, Anderson, Pietersen or in particular Bell have shown their mettle. Bell has been brilliant - the best batsman on both sides by far. Warne deserves to choke on his own words. 3-0 up with one to play; let's make it 4 at the Oval.

The England team has plenty of faults - such as complacency and lack of application - but they are not "cheats and hypocrites". The cheats are mainly Indians and Pakistanis (see below), which makes you the hypocrite. http://en.wikipedia....or_match_fixing

Today was the poorest I have seen England play in a long time. But then England have been generally poor all summer, yet still secured the Ashes in record time. Flower needs to deliver an Alex Ferguson-style bollocking to some players for getting themselves out out against a very mediocre attack and it's also obvious the team needs a shake-up. Ballance and Taylor are better young batsmen than Bairstow while Root needs to go down the order. Why Onions wasn't picked for his home Test is a mystery too.

It's correct alright, one English county player but the majority from the sub-continent. But we're the cheating scumbags apparently.

Here are the real "cheating scumbags", led by India of course. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cricketers_banned_for_match_fixing

Yes it is. Durham's a lovely town. Lumley Castle overlooking the ground is where Watson was famously "spooked" by the castle ghost in 2005.

Warne writing in the DT today has accused England's players of being "smug and arrogant". Oh the irony, the irony.....