Only 3 seasons if he proves that he warrants 3 years. Not 3 years no matter what happens. Regarding the style, I have found the performances barring 1 or 2 exceptions to be painfully dull, yes. As ever though, I get no pleasure from losing but playing supposedly good football and get lots from any win so its about results. But I do have grave reservations about the sustainability of our results should we continue to try and play walking football, passing it along the backline. Watford have had a much better last decade than us with our "time and patience" approach that you suggested. Ultimately it depends on the individual managers, not so much the approach.

Equally, how have you reached such a conclusion based on those aforementioned 150 minutes over 5 games?

But it isn't comparable to any other job. Football managers are either given fixed term contracts that are in the grand scheme of things quite small in duration or rolling contracts, should they not last the duration then it is either down to being paid off having been sacked or being bought out by another team.

There are plenty of clubs (example 1, Chelsea at the top end, or Watford with them being a Prem Club for most of the last decade) that defy the idea that stability and success automatically go hand in hand. But there is a huge middle ground between catastrophically wrong (what does that entail, relegation?) and "incredible results within 18 months" which is the key thing here. There can't be a total disregard to always needing results in the short term even before you consider the illogical nature of putting too much stock in a "long term project" in the Championship considering the common high player turnovers each season, added to by loan deals being so common. Tomasson like any other manager/head coach should need to justify extra time and extra trust in keeping him. If he sticks to this way of playing and it over time starts showing signs of knitting together both in performances and crucially results, then excellent. If not, and I am not for one minute implying that such a decision is near, but the consideration down the line needs to be made as to whether blind faith should continue to be put into a manager who is showing little signs for optimism on the pitch. The thing is, he won't because under Venkys, he likely will get 3 seasons even if he took us down, but that is a different point altogether.

Tomasson will for the forseeable be shielded for much of the potential criticism because some with withhold all potential criticisms on account of it being early days. We cannot possibly give a manager 3 whole years with the only out being if it goes "catastrophically wrong." A managers future should always be an ongoing thing, whereby if progression couple with results is not forthcoming then the managers position becomes jeopardised. Further time needs to be earnt, alas under most owners it is. There has been a lot of optimism caused by what people say rather than what they do as is always the case in the early days, I remember the same posters who now are making out that Tomasson merely not being Mowbray means that he is a clear upgrade eating out of the latter's hand in the first couple of years in fans forums etc. It is very early days admittedly and it has been a real mixed bag once you start judging on actions rather than words. Overall the league table looks healthy, the performance level especially after a quick start does not bode well with our current style not looking productive whilst being really boring to watch. Off the pitch, the choice to essentially write off an eight figure income for a season extra of our main player within a season being written off as a "transition" one already was always to me a huge black mark on the incoming regime. Conversely, I think we had done a few good bits and pieces on the contract front elsewhere, although players who have barely kicked a ball in senior football was never the issue in the past, it was when graduates got to the point whereby they could reasonably expect to be within the high earners. The new signings so far with reasonable funds look at best a real mixed bag.

How you can be so sure based only words is a different story, but basically teams will do the above yet I can guarantee that across the tenures of the current staff, there will be some shit signings made too, doing that research doesn't mean that a player will come in and do well.

I think that I would go: Kaminski Brittain Ayala Wharton Pickering Travis A Wharton Markanday Dack Brereton Gallagher Dack has to play. It is a tight call between the 2 centre backs and Hyam but I think that those 2 shade it. We look light in midfield so Travis has to play and with neither Morton nor Buckley particularly impressing, it is time to put Adam Wharton in who has barely a kicked a ball after his man of the match display at Blackpool. Hedges is also unlucky to miss out, he has started the season well but I think he has to start offering a goal threat and id like to see Markanday.

Give time and patience 😂 is that why Kean stayed during years of protesting and a relegation? Is that why Mowbray stayed for so long after showing clear signs of stagnation yet with no communication on the future? You don't seem to be willing to hold any critical faculty in regards with what your opinion of the intended tactical change. Do you think it suits us to play the ball out slowly from the back? The regularly used lines are "high press" and "fluid front 4" but there have been only fleeting examples of either whereas the passing it out from the back is a clear staple of his plan. Do you not question at all whether for example that our squad suits playing it out from the back? Do you not think when we do bore everyone rigid trying it, maybe a compromise will need to be struck in regards to passing it out? In your head, it just seems to be a case of it definitely will all come together over time.

How do you know that he deserves to be here next season?

If we continue with the same style and go on a poor run, people will react and there will be frustration and anxiety in the ground. No amount of patronising comments on here will make a difference.

I never said that we should sack Tomasson. My point was more a general one about Venkys having history for letting managers stay in situ regardless of results, so Tomasson will be here next season either way.

The one tactical choice that Tomasson has managed to get the players to follow is to try and play it out from the back. This has and will continue to cause us problems and will bore everyone rigid doing so. Results hage been reasonable and IMO are better than the level of performance but I think if we lose a few on the bounce, that the passing it out stuff will really frustrate Ewood.

The Watford game we played well in, QPR was a drab game settled by a wonder goal and Blackpool was ok. Do you have answers to my questions on style of play, notably passing it out slowly from the back? Venkys have history of not sacking managers under contract despite results. Obviously not saying they should sack Tomasson.

Tomasson clearly wants them to play like that so worryingly, stuff like that will likely continue regardless of who plays.

Because we lack experience and physicality in there, and for me have regularly struggled this season to control the midfield battle. Buckley has really regressed playing deeper, Morton has underwhelmed and Wharton has dropped back out of the squad. Just because we have 4 players doesnt mean that we are suitably equipped there. And maybe Hirst and Szmodics were first choices, my point was more that they have started poorly in a Rovers shirt. For balance and to avoid you going mad about patience and projects again, Hyam and Brittain have started well.

I get that you are very much in the honeymoon period with Tomasson and seem reluctant to even question him, trotting out the word "project" repeatedly. But results aside, what do you make to the way Tomasson is trying to get us to play? Do you agree with it or have any concerns with it? What do you make to the signings and do you think we are lacking anywhere? Would you agree that our results show more points than perhaps our performances have warranted?

There are huge genuine worries that he is trying to instill a philosophy that quite simply is not fit for purpose considering the players available. He seems desperate to have us playing it out from the back but it doesnt suit us. All this talk of high intensity pressing etc but we have been a painfully dull watch all season and I suspect should we continue in the same vein, results will go downhill rather than improve. There has been a lot of talk about us being inconsistent but I would say that the level of performance has been consistently poor. A big re-think is needed. He will be regardless of results. Venkys dont care enough either way.

The transfer window is not looking like the successful one that many praised Broughton and Tomasson for as it came to a close. Hyam and Brittain improve the side but as I have said before, we were desperate for some experience in central midfield and Morton does not tick that box, we look really short there. Szmodics looks like a player who doesnt come close to improving our first 11 which he has to considering the fee, Hirst surely was not anyones first choice and Mola doesnt make matchday squads.

Signing a lorry loads of players in the crazy way that Forest have doesnt scream everyone being in it together and reading off the same page.

Just because he "knows how it works" doesnt mean that the goal posts cant move and things will change, nor that it will be efficient/effective.

Dyche is the obvious appointment for either Forest if they sack Cooper or Bournemouth to give them the best chance of staying up. Strangely, warped perception means that he will be too unfashionable to even be considered and both sides will likely be relegated.

Dyche is the obvious appointment for either Forest if they sack Cooper or Bournemouth to give them the best chance of staying up. Strangely, warped perception means that he will be too unfashionable to even be considered and both sides will likely be relegated.

The big risk that comes with the currently fashionable setup of having head coaches. It can often lead to playere signed that the "head coach" doesnt want and/or can lead to internal conflict.

I dont get why Hull (established Championship club with a good core of quality) need experience yet Rotherham (historical yo-yo club) should be taking a risk on someone young.

Rothwell was the only player in Mowbrays reign - I have been pretty consistent in saying that it is not an issue just in Mowbray's tenure, it is a Venkys thing. Ties in to my point that once Mowbray says anything, regardless of accuracy it causes rage and an inability for some to stop then going into an in depth analysis of why he shouldn't be here anymore The pandemic isn't an excuse it's a fact - I never really argued otherwise. It can be a valid excuse AND a somewhat justification for that lack of backing that I have mentioned You don't give your players away - Venkys seemingly did not have any interest in negotiating, in which case I would imagine we could have got higher than 10 million euros. But is 10 million euros giving him away, or is it indeed a considerable chunk of money for a Championship club bemoaning FFP, and well in excess of what we spent? Again this summer money was spent - The first summer in 3, but yes, again you clearly have not read my posts in which I have repeatedly stated that it isn't the amount of spending that necessarily frustrates me, its the lack of underlying, consistent plan.