Gordon is not better than any of those players listed. Plus Gallagher is far better.

That is the exact problem with people saying that players can play in numerous positions as a means of reducing the numbers we need. They can't play in 2 positions at once.

Premier League sides can have 20 man squads, not 18. The numbers that they have brought in seem excessive but too much is made of it. Lowe, Spence, Davis, Garner and Zinkernagel were on loan last season so thats half their promoted line up gone before you start, then throw in the likes of Samba, Horvarth, Grabban, Figuereido, Lolley, Bong and Mighten who have all left for various reasons and Richards who picked up a bad injury almost instantly and those drastic squad changes become more of necessity than anything else. There are also players like Taylor and Cafu who are clearly surplus to requirements. Either way, Bowler won't be coming here.

No one has ever suggested that they won't give a player a chance or judge them if and when they play for us. For some reason, so many people cannot understand or won't understand that you can do that whilst having an opinion on that player signing in the first place.

It's not about writing a player off. It's about having an opinion on a players credentials. Rumours of him signing at this stage are tenuous at best, so raising any doubts over the link don't have to be some venomous criticism of the club. Would you have suggested Hirst had this link not emerged? I very much doubt that. Even if it was £10m or let his deal run down, as long as you can reinvest £5-6m on a replacement then you take it.

Hyam £1.5m according to the LT, Brittain £900k, Szmodics £2.5m. I suppose neither of us will know for sure. The situation is still now whereby we can make a substantial £15m sale on Brereton this summer, the alternative is to let £15m value expire. Would we sign Brereton on loan for a season for £15m? No. The sensible thing to do would is to sell him if he won't renew and spend a good chunk of that on a short and long term replacement. I would not be angry if we ended the summer with a net spend of nil, I just want us to operate like a normal football club. When Rhodes was sold, the instant reaction was to patch the team up with loans, none of that was reinvested. When Cairney and Gestede were sold, it was freebies. When Armstrong went, none of it was reinvested. When Rothwell could have been sold with reinvestment, the deal was blocked by the owners. Riis is more of an example, but you are dismissing him to suggest a player who scored less in the league below. Hirst would be underwhelming, particularly on loan. How much have you seen of Birmancevic to suggest him so strongly?

Bennett was versatile in that he was equally useless in whatever position he was put in. Suppose Rankin Costello could do that.

I can't forsee any situation whereby that 3 signing thing is set in stone to the point that one of those is filled by another position instead.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/20829887.blackburn-rovers-withdraw-race-sign-liverpools-sepp-van-den-berg/ That means Rovers are now left with a decision as to whether to look for another option to add to their central defensive ranks, or stick with those at their disposal. I suspect that 3 signings has now become 2, so 1 more to go. Carter is "like a new signing."

You can't possibly believe that he is worth the eye watering fees rumoured. He is bang average, if he wasn't English he wouldn't be worth £10m. If he went to Chelsea, he is worse than all of their current wingers.

Brereton is quite unique is that he is a prolific goalscorer and a left winger. We need a striker either way as Gallagher and Vale is nowhere near enough. Brereton's departure would leave us needing a left winger AND a goalscorer, but it would be much more likely to get a central striker who can be that goalscorer. So sign Riis and then get a left winger separately. How many times have you watched BIrmancevic? Also, Riis has never played for Denmark.

1.5m, 2.5m, 1m, 5m no? But not the point I was making. If we let Brereton run his contract down, it is negligent. But the point you quote is about a specific posters wishes for the rest of the window, which includes signing 3 players that seem to keep re-occuring with little basis and leaving us with 1 striker. If Brereton stays and we don't sign anyone else permanently, would that be a positive window for you or negative? Not what I was saying though, is it?

Yeah I think it will be, they have had an interest throughout the summer. Under Venkys we never seem to sell an asset, reinvest some and then go again. Brentford model my arse.

I suspect that you will be disappointed on all of those ins unfortunately, but why does this dream window leave us with only Gallagher and Vale as strikers?

Not that it has any relevance because he won't be coming here either way. But have you factored in Alex Mighten leaving to join Sheffield Wednesday on loan today? And you don't have to register everyone that you have, they have players like Cafu and Lyle Taylor who I suspect will be registered at the moment that could be left out with little impact.

A team has bid £7.5m for Emil Riis. Would make sense for us to sell Brereton for basically double that and go and get Riis, but I suspect that would not happen under these owners.

So many questions going into this. Will Hyam start and will any other new signings be involved? Will Brereton be still here? Will Brittain and Gallagher be fit? Is Szmodics out with concussion? Is Ayala ok having been seen with his calf strapped up? Then beyond that, there are obvious selection dilemmas. Will Dack be scapegoated by Tomasson and pulled straight out? Who will play beside Travis? Does Carter play at right back if Brittain is out? I do fear that our team again will be really patched up and will struggle.

A potential last minute move to Schalke for Van Den Berg would be a huge blow because he is a very good player and would have played games in 2 different positions. Always the risk with waiting for a loanee so late into the window. It is really important that we have an alternative in mind who can also play comfortably at right back. Tomasson said up to 3 in his press conference, that was taken as a minimum by many who have continued to suggest 4, 5 and 6 including the likes of Birmancevic, Bowler and Styles in big money signings, my fear was always that a deal could fall through and leave us with not enough time to do something else. The 4 we have plus a loanee attacker would leave us very, very short.

Tomasson was not for even suggesting there is a chance of above 3, unless he was fibbing. Coupled with the LT saying 2 x CBs and a loan attacker. Potentially a 4th centre back on loan, Brown loaned out and no more central midfielders. Lots of decisions made against your own personal preferences.

Something you have heard or just a guess? Liverpool play Wednesday night so maybe they will keep him for the bench assuming Matip/Konate are still out, nothing to do with PR. We need him on Wednesday though presuming that Brittain doesnt recover. So be it? We cant just throw away half a season like that. We need attacking reinforcement now, not in January. May aswell forget the loan for Van Den Berg if we are so flippant about this season.

I think it is Mercer (?) who asked the above question re Hirst has implied that he has been told that the deal will go through tomorrow. Rich Sharpe has heard mixed messages, and the previous tweet was that Brereton pulled out of playing last week due to an imminent move which obviously was not true. But thought id post after seeing it all the same.

Nixon apparently talking more shite about Van Hecke.

Not only is the core of what is left much better than what was inherited but we also have a 15m asset who can be sold, another one who was sold and a 4m asset that he wanted to sell that was blocked. The latter 2 deals could have led to further reinvestment on assets but the blame for why it hasnt belongs in India.

Since corrected it seems. Maybe he misread as it says 4th signing in the official article in a rush to publish his own story.

I very much doubt that the sticker book was done when the first signing was made knowing that exactly 6 signings would be made! Mere coincedence that we will sign 6. Nixon again talking shite saying that we needed Brereton to be sold to push this through.