roversfan99

We cant just be having a kid with no senior football as immediate back up.

It has become predictable enough to rule out 5th and 6th under these owners.

I dont get why the first part of your judgement is around whether he claps the fans.

Agreed. It would really take something special to get relegated with some of the teams that often float towards the bottom and I dont think people factor that in as much as they should. You think of us last season, PNE this season and Stoke on a number of occasions. An absolute mess yet manage to avoid relegation.

Its irrelevant what people said before the season. We were in the top 6 for a big chunk of the season and fell out, provoked again by how badly we are run as a club. Obviously they deserve praise but I definitely think thats its not controversial to suggest that the biggest reason for us being up there was Eustace. It does come down to standards. Im not going to wax lyrical about a successful season considering the running of the club has caused us to be in the top 6 and fall away at the end due to how terribly we are run. The feeling looking back is frustration and anger, not positivity. And its not a building block because its built on quicksand.

I do wonder in say 10 or 20 years how different still the football calendar will look. Games in the early hours, games hosted in different countries, doesnt bear thinking about.

No, I dont. Youve suggested this before as if the 2 options are to move no games or to have free reign to move the vast majority. There is a middle ground. You are fixated with the European fixtures which make up such a small minority of games moved across the season simply because you dont have TNT sports. Ive suggested before that on weekends where a couple of teams have played on the Thursday and cant play on the Saturday, then make their games the Super Sunday game. Ive also suggested the things that I would propose: - dont move numerous games to the same time. 1 is plenty. So say Friday night, 2 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday and one sometimes on Monday. There are 6 slots, there is no need to move more than 6 of 46 games in a weekend. That way, youve got a televised game in every slot. We dont need for example 8 or 9 to choose from on Saturday dinnertime. - no team can be shown over a certain amount of games per season, or consecutively. Unfair to keep moving games for the same sets of fans week after week. - decide all TV games at the start of the season to allow transport to be arranged. If they miss the odd important game, tough. It wont happen because of greed and disregard towards fans from all concerned. Again, not interested in Spanish TV times. Totally different culture.

It possibly shows how low standards have dropped then. Finishing outside the play offs having been in then for most of the season, with another second half of the season slide, with our talented manager leaving because the club is run so badly and with minimal reason for hopes of building on it because our key players are coming to the end of their contracts. Not sure whats positive about that. I havent in anyway criticised the players in my posts in this thread.

Discarding your low standards regarding a winger who has played the majority of games and contributed one goal and 2 assists. If the options are to sign a 5th centre back and keep Forshaw as immediate cover for midfield, or to not sign a 5th centre back but put the money towards a much better midfielder who can really challenge or at least provide strong cover (and not a huge dip in quality like when Forshaw and Buckley came in during our losing run) and then release Forshaw then surely youd choose the latter. I cant help but feel like again, you are justifying decisions knowing they will be made rather than challenging them if you dont agree.

Having to repeatedly extend early bird offers isnt smart, it shows they repeatedly get it wrong and then panic when they realise. Obviously early birds are an attempt at getting as much in as early as possible, but overall youll get less numbers because people who for whatever reason dont or cant commit so early (the season has literally just finished) wont then willingly pay more than what others have paid for the same product. Take the early bird out of it, I suspect many who have got season tickets would have got them in the early weeks anyway, especially if its to maintain their seats, so I doubt the cash flow is even overly benefitted by it.

Nobody involved in the organisation of matches does, its all about greed and the fans who go to games dont matter.

It would be a nice extra. But we need a number of other positions far more urgently. If its a left centre back or upgrades on sub par players (Hedges, Forshaw etc) then I would choose the latter. We play a back 4, 4 centre backs for 2 places is about right.

I dont get any happiness out of again just missing out, agonisingly, having lost our very talented manager and the main reason we were in the top 6 for much of the season in the circumstances that we did, no. I dont follow this binary thought process of we expected to finish here and finished here instead. We were in the top 6 for so long, are run so bad that Eustace moved to a relegation battle, our season nosedived and in that change, the new manager took only 1 point from 7 favourable games. Its not even like we can look forward and think we can build under these owners. The whole think is built on quicksand. The slumps keep happening, the very talented manager has gone, why would next season be different? It would only be progress if it was part of something that is being built.

Now we are moving towards that spell where people share any sort of rumour regardless of credibility. This is one source we can discount. A player out for most of next season injured.

How have we got to the stage where anyone would pre-emptively be "ecstatic" at finishing narrowly and frustrating outside of the top 6 of the Championship?

Neither broadcaster put any thought into what suits the fans going to the final. No broadcaster ever does.

Again, im talking about Rovers who despite Venkys best efforts arent a League 2 club. We should have the cash flow to not hinder potential season ticket sales by essentially throughout the summer probably putting a lot of people off because by the time theyve decided they would be interested, they then are unwilling to buy a season ticket for more than they could have had one for a month or two ago. There is no justification for it. You could still have a cut off to keep your seat without hiking prices.

I dont really get why a left footed centre back is high on the agenda. We play a back 4 and assuming Batth signs, we have him and Hyam plus Carter. Wharton wouldnt have much pressure on him as he would just be taking Sanderson's place in the squad. Not wasting resources on one could allow us to get a competent player as opposed to the easy option of signing Forshaw and/or Hedges.

It's so subjective so it shouldn't be taken as factual. Also, often a goal has numerous minor errors and misjudgements. If you are analysing off the back of a Hyam discussion then there will also be confirmation bias. For example, the one v Leeds was a dive, the goal v Cardiff came from an ACD error, Hyam not beating Meite who was on the run in the air is very harsh to give all the blame to him. Toth isn't mentioned but he made a big error v Coventry for the goal. Pears definitely has made more mistakes, one that springs to mind is Twine's free kick v Bristol City.

Whether other clubs do it or not, im not particularly interested. But us doing it is ridiculous and counter productive.

It's behind a paywall, but even if its partly fuelled by a bit of a shakeup, the amount of fixture changes across English football shows no consideration to match going fans. It seems that BBC and ITV are in a battle to determine the kick off time for the cup final, and part of it is to do with it not clashing with Eurovision. That sums everything up.

I don't understand why Carter's reputation has remained exactly the same after the last 2 years when his body keeps breaking down but even when he has put a run of games together, he has looked shaky. Hyam and Carter both were really strong together in Hyam's first season when Hyam won player of the season, and that wasn't next to an experienced defender, although in the main he clearly does benefit from one. I just find it strange how off the back of a season where I think Hyam has been good and has played every minute in a team with the 6th best defensive record in the league, with I think 16 clean sheets, it seems to have only accelerated the opinion that he needs moving on and Carter needs to be kept and built around. (Not that I am saying we should get rid of either, I would keep both) I can only conclude that its his lack of popularity that causes this perception. There was the meeting where he apparently said that the players didn't like the booing. There was also apparently an altercation or two with supporters around that time. One performance can also stick in fans minds, and he had an absolute shocker at Bristol City away. Sometimes its difficult to recover in terms of reputation from that. Armstrong had a game ironically at the same place where he had loads of shots and developed a reputation of being greedy. He then went on to score 28 goals in a season but I never felt that he was rated or popular in line with how important he was to us.

Sky promoting the fact that they will be showing 215 games next season, and TNT will show a few more. Thats over half of the games presumably set to be moved and its even the case in the Championship. No thoughts about match going fans.

VAR has worked very well in the Newcastle game. 3 penalties given but only a stupid Ayari handball was actually a genuine penalty, one was outside the box and one was a dive. Van Hecke really does like diving into challenges and can be a bit of a liability around good players.

I dont get why Hyam is being lumped in with the disposable crap.