Sam Vokes has looked really good in this opening 15 mins. Winning everything in the air and linking up play well. Good outlet considering they’ll be playing off scraps here. Looking every bit the footballer that Gallagher isn’t.

Let’s be honest. We need to win all 4 games to have a chance, potentially 1 draw and 3 wins but that would rely on a lot of results going our way. It’s over, let’s just hope we can sort ourselves out in the short off season.

All I can think is how did we come away from Wigan and Barnsley with 0 points. We’re going to beat West Brom and Millwall then bottle it to Reading/Luton aren’t we

Travis. But they are the only 5

If Tony does go (I can’t see it happening myself) then I don’t want us to go anywhere near the revolving failures (Pulis, Hughes and the likes). It’s not progressive in any way. Look at Nuno and Bielsa who came to the Championship, albeit for much richer clubs, even Wagner taking Hudds up, or Farke taking Norwich up.

There is a lot of deadwood to sort out. I’d be shot of everyone below if possible: Walton, Williams, Mulgrew, Bennett, Johnson, Smallwood, Rothwell, Chapman, Samuel, Gallagher. More likely to see more names above on new contracts with us next year than playing elsewhere though. That’s the reality with Mowbray

Cardiff winning will finish the season for anyone who still had doubts. We haven’t improved on last year despite spending more than most and adding some chunky wages in SG, SD and BJ. Tony should walk, obviously he won’t. He’s not the man to take us forward and next season is going to be a horrible watch if we continue like this

What do we think we could get for Gallagher and Brereton now? I don’t think we’d get £5m combined.

It’s as if it’s the same names popping up game after game, who’d have thought it.

Completely agree with this. He offers absolutely nothing but gets the most game time out of our strikers...only reason is an attempted justification on £5m and highest wages in the team. I give Samuel a lot of stick, but he costs a fraction of the amount and offers similar.

Millwall have a nice run of fixtures, whilst Derby have a horrible run in. Personally I think it’s between Cardiff and Millwall. As for ourselves, to have a sniff we have to beat both Cardiff and Millwall away as well as at least 2 others, very slim indeed. 3 points from Wigan and Barnsley and who knows, I fear we’ll be looking back at that week for a few gloomy years to come as our best chance in a long time. Reminiscent of throwing away a 3-1 lead to draw 3-3 with Sheff Wed and then 0-0 at home to Yeovil back to back in Bowyers years.

https://mobile.twitter.com/marksparko/status/1279000646335836163 A good thread here about just how corrupt the whole thing is. EFL are such a shambles

Maybe we should spend money in the right places then... How are those £12m strikers going (+ their wages)? I’m not even sure what you’re arguing.

Fair enough Chaddy, looks like a few contact extensions given they only signed a handful of players that year. My point still stands. They had exactly the same squad bar a keeper on a free, a championship striker for £7m, a loanee from a Prem club and a LB . (sounds like Walton, Brereton, Tosin and...(we didn’t get a LB?)) Yet he still took them from mid-table to 3rd and then promotion. He didn’t even need Tony’s transfer budget!

“The club's total wage bill was £20million, with about £16million being spent on the first-team squad's salaries. Again, this is another area which will change dramatically next season, as the wage bill has increased by approximately £8million this year.“ Taken from a Leeds newspaper on the back of their 2017 figures, so not sure where £46m has come from.

Not sure where you’ve plucked those numbers from Chaddy, considering it is a 10 year period I am talking about. My point was Bielsa barely changed the team or wage bill. 2 signings (Bamford and Casillas) and 1 loanee (Harrison) who play regularly from that season and took them from mid table to the best team (or 3 teams) in the league in a years time, with 1 pre season. The gulf between the two managers is huge, but Bielsa is the anomaly, you won’t get many of him in the Championship.

With all the talk about Mowbray on other threads, it’s worth noting that before Bielsa came to Leeds they finished 13th, 7th, 13th, 15th, 15th, 13th, 14th, 7th They didn’t once make the playoffs since coming up from L1 until his arrival Then 3rd last season thanks to an all mighty bottle, and looking like they’ll cruise it this season. This is all he spent in the first year too, not too dissimilar to our manager last year . They play great football and I’ve never seen a championship team put in as much of a shift as they do. Everything we’ve not been over the last week.

It seems everyone wants to hand it to Cardiff (with Derby giving them a run) Points in the 3 games since return: Bristol C - 0 PNE - 1 Millwall - 2 Rovers - 3 Swansea - 4 Cardiff - 7 Derby - 9

Exactly this. The spine of our team is easily top 6 quality, but that’s not even half the team. You’re right though, Tony can only blame himself, spending £12m on strikers without fixing CB#2, LB, any player with a remote bit of width.

Season ticket sales are going to be shocking next year, whenever they actually go on sale that is. Season is over and Tony can only blame himself. So much deadwood in the team and it’s come to bite us in the arse. These lads don’t have the bite and hunger to progress like you’d get from Travis and Dack. They look disinterested. Squad needs a huge overhaul in the summer, and as much as I’ve defended Mowbray over time, he hasn’t shown he’s the man to do it. Too pally with them all, too many undeserved contracts. Cardiff, Swansea and Millwall all drawing too, when we’re coming away from Wigan and Barnsley with 0 points and -4 GD you can’t help but give up.

Gives Tony his excuse anyway. Season is over, how much have we spent on strikers and we had Samuel starting today and we’ve scored 0 vs Barnsley and Wigan. Spineless as always

Stupid challenge but it looked comical to be a red that.

Get him off

Ifollow suggesting we’ve had 71% possession in the first half....we didn’t touch the ball for 20 minutes.

You were relating Lenihan missing a game to see the birth of his child with the club going bust.