joey_big_nose Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Dave you might as well give up. Steve is not interested in modifying his opinions or beliefs on this one no matter how many stats or logical arguments you put together. Its an article of faith. You might as well try to convince a Christian there is no God. ps. Not having a dig, just saying what I have seen on this thread for x pages and pages and pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Moss Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I've answered the question twice. It's called the law. You can adopt a bubble wrap society world view. I prefer personal liberty. That means there is risk, more so than the UK in some ways, less in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Countries like Switzerland have shown that gun ownership can work... with the right regulations. There are too many socio-political differences for the Swiss model to work in the US, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moss Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 When will the caravan horror end? http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/18/ban-this-dangerous-weapon-right-now-before-more-people-die/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 When will the caravan horror end? http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/18/ban-this-dangerous-weapon-right-now-before-more-people-die/ Go on, I'll play for a minute, even though you are being tongue-in-cheek (to a point).Annually, how many deaths in the US are gun-related and how many are van-related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted March 27, 2016 Backroom Share Posted March 27, 2016 Redneck blows his legs off shooting a lawnmower filled with explosive substance Smart people http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/24/man-loses-leg-shooting-lawnmower-full-explosives/82232440/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinjayV4 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Redneck blows his legs off shooting a lawnmower filled with explosive substance Smart people http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/24/man-loses-leg-shooting-lawnmower-full-explosives/82232440/ Suppose its educates dangers of shooting lawnmowers stacked with explosives but prefer not to watch footage of someones leg being blown off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted March 27, 2016 Backroom Share Posted March 27, 2016 Fortunately then you don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Rassragr Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 If you think that's a fun thing to do, then perhaps you shouldn't have a gun. Or metal cutlery, plug sockets, scissors................or a lawn mower. What a f-cking d-ckhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I worked on a project with some American engineers over here several years back. In the main they were 30 ish college educated guys, really friendly and very helpful. One of them went for a vacation back in the US. When he came back here he was showing me photos of what he had done on his holiday. With some pals he'd bought a couple of old cars and driven them out to the end of a box canyon in the middle of nowhere. They had a SUV with a 0.50" calibre heavy machine gun mounted on the back. With this they spent all afternoon shooting the crap out of the old cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moss Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I worked on a project with some American engineers over here several years back. In the main they were 30 ish college educated guys, really friendly and very helpful. One of them went for a vacation back in the US. When he came back here he was showing me photos of what he had done on his holiday. With some pals he'd bought a couple of old cars and driven them out to the end of a box canyon in the middle of nowhere. They had a SUV with a 0.50" calibre heavy machine gun mounted on the back. With this they spent all afternoon shooting the crap out of the old cars. The difference being that they didn't load the cars with explosives, as they had some brains. Edited thanks to Ultrablue's catch. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrablue Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 The difference being that they did load the cars with explosives, as they had some brains. Shooting up cars loaded with brains??? Less dangerous, but more messy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthblue02 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 What a shame it is not a real smartphone as well, then billy bob could upload a selfie straight after he has shot joey bob for having relations with their sister/wife http://idealconceal.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted May 1, 2016 Moderation Lead Share Posted May 1, 2016 A bit of light relief-https://www.facebook.com/sickchirpse/posts/1204410059572253 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBRFC71 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Might have been posted before, but while a comedy routine pretty much hits the nail on the head about the absurdity of US gun laws and ancient, redundant 'amendments' ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9UFyNy-rw4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthblue02 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Cheers for bumping this thread Paul, looked for it couldn't find it Whilst politicians stifled a debate on guns for 15 hours 48 people were shot in the US http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/while-politicians-stifled-a-debate-on-guns-for-15-hours-48-people-were-shot-in-the-us--W1S2qC5wNZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I thought that link quite remarkable. Puts the whole thing in stark perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrablue Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Cheers for bumping this thread Paul, looked for it couldn't find it Whilst politicians stifled a debate on guns for 15 hours 48 people were shot in the US http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/while-politicians-stifled-a-debate-on-guns-for-15-hours-48-people-were-shot-in-the-us--W1S2qC5wNZ The article is a little misleading in one way.The filibuster was actually pro-gun control. The Democrat trying to force the Republican leadership to agree to a vote on banning the sale of guns to people on the terror watchlist. After 15 hours they finally conceded so he stepped down from the desk. But the fact that 48 people were shot in any 15 hour period - something needs to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I guess it depends on whether you think tighter gun laws will stop criminals from getting and using guns. The trick is how to get them out of the hands of criminals. Until then the argument will be 'how will I defend myself when the bad guys attack me or my family?' If it was a vote for not introducing guns it would be simpler but as it is guns are endemic and it would require a massive amnesty with only the 'good guys' complying. This will take a lot longer than 15 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Rassragr Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 True. You can ban them completely but there's estimated to be hundreds of millions of them knocking about. And you know the crazy ultra right wing fruitcakes will keep them hidden somewhere in case the 'New World Order' knock on their front door and try to sell them a vacuum cleaner that reads their minds. The USA is in a pretty bad state right now, economically, socially and politically. When people are advocating religious 'persecution', be it of Muslims or gay/transgender people instead of trying to stop crazy people buying guns then you're in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I guess it depends on whether you think tighter gun laws will stop criminals from getting and using guns. The trick is how to get them out of the hands of criminals. Until then the argument will be 'how will I defend myself when the bad guys attack me or my family?' If it was a vote for not introducing guns it would be simpler but as it is guns are endemic and it would require a massive amnesty with only the 'good guys' complying. This will take a lot longer than 15 hours. There would have to be an absolutely enormous dragnet operation to get guns out of circulation. It is possible though. I Europe after WW2 or in Australia when they banned weapons huge amounts of guns were impounded and controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave birch Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jbn, In Australia, we had a gun amnesty whereby citizens with guns could surrender them. They gave them up to be destroyed in light of the happenings at Port Arthur. I can't recall whether the Government paid compensation or not. It's now illegal to own a weapon that is not registered and stored in an approved manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthblue02 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jbn, In Australia, we had a gun amnesty whereby citizens with guns could surrender them. They gave them up to be destroyed in light of the happenings at Port Arthur. I can't recall whether the Government paid compensation or not. It's now illegal to own a weapon that is not registered and stored in an approved manner. Yes there was compensation for the gun buy back programmes / amnesties in 1996/97 and 2003 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_buyback_program#Australia During the 2006/07 amnesty nearly 1 million weapons were bought and destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Jbn, In Australia, we had a gun amnesty whereby citizens with guns could surrender them. They gave them up to be destroyed in light of the happenings at Port Arthur. I can't recall whether the Government paid compensation or not. It's now illegal to own a weapon that is not registered and stored in an approved manner. I am sure you know better than me but wasnt there a seizure operation as well for know caches of now illegal weapons? Or was it all voluntary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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