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I agree, except for the part about us being able to guarantee minutes because we have no bugger else. We are about to have 3 fit forwards, one was in excellent form until injury, another we just supposedly paid about 3 million for (won't be tons less given what Glimt paid in the summer) and one who has been pretty much an ever present. We may have just switched formation so that only one of them can play as a striker at a time. We could and may well do our Cashin thing of guaranteeing minutes at cost of financial penalty, but we are in a relegation battle so we really shouldn't.

Huh, I always figured it was going to be Pickering leaving. Seems to have played less, at least recently, is a higher earner, and is allegedly one of the ones who stood up to Gestede for his bullying behaviour. The rest are all gone.

Tearing myself away from the drama going on at work, to something more important.....I think you are more forgiving than me than Ian, and probably rightly so. That said I will argue the toss all day long if it is done in good faith, but I'm not sure that's going on in this case. And I find the "we know what's really going on" implied (not by you, by the Gooseberry) not helpful at all. As for the wider point, I didn't feel that the boycott was likely to be very successful, because we have a rather pliant hardcore of fans who even in the Steve Kean dog days just shuffled on by when other were calling for change. But once hardworking good folk wanted to give it a go, I am all for it. I've been missing games for two seasons now, so not a great sacrifice for me, but something has to be done because my support is dangling by a thread right now.

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probably because we have no intention of paying 3 million for anyone,if we had indeed payed 3 million quid for jorgenson(i very much doubt it) there is absolutely no way we`de be trying to shell out another 3 million,it`s all progapanda and lies by us and nixon,don`t believe anything that comes out of ewood and certaintly don`t believe anything nixon comes up with

Believe it or not, he's injured

A weeks training with the lads who are coming back will hopefully help things and although Hull are in a bit of form we should be able to match them. Conceding piss poor goals and missing the odd gilt edged chance that comes our way remains the biggest threat. I'm thinking 1 - 1 again.

Why do they need him when they've got Sam Gallagher?

If Nixon is correct, which i presume he isnt, that we did lodge a £3m bid for Smit but Stoke beat us on wages. Why wouldn't we put the same money in for Cleary? And not waste there time with a 500k or so improvement on the last bid? I imagine even we could give this guy an improvement in wages? Something just doesn't ring true about the whole episode.

He specifically said though that we wont spend on Championship wages, not transfer fees. On fees, our spending this season is far from unreasonable. But there is a clear and aggressive policy to massively cut the wage budget hence signing players from weaker foreign leagues.

Hull are flying. Won at Southampton and Preston in there last two away games, we'll be no bother for these. Rovers 0 Hull 2 in there most comfortable afternoon of the season.

How dare you compare us to the great unwashed down the road! Pfffft!

Smit has signed for Stoke

Yes, that's a really good point. Outside of those two brief runs his record really is impossibly bad. And the first run of 4 games came from a better team when the pressure was off because it looked at the time as though we'd played ourselves completely out of play off contention and it didn't matter.

They are nepobabies brought up in a social caste system. Of course they see the fans as the great unwashed.

Revenge for the FA Cup? McLoughlin to score the winner? Mauled by the Tigers? Two wins in 15? Which is it to be? 🤔

Said this for a long time and I'm convinced of it. And I'm equally convinced that the snowball was the pivotal moment.

That was perhaps a more nuanced post than mine 😉

Vitriol? Really... I think this is just getting out of hand. I was thinking more of the site over which you preside rather than here. Happy for mods to remove the post if you regard it as too personal.

'A deal worth up to 3 million' can be structured many ways it doesn't mean they've just tipped up 3 million quid.

The amount wasn't the point really, it was Rev asking why Rovers won't spend money on Championship players. The problem is, everyone wants them to spend money on players, then when they (supposedly) do, nobody believes it anyway because it doesn't fit the narrative. It's all a bit of a pointless conversation.

I’m sorry, what? Nowhere in my post has it said that. You are doing extremely well at trying to position yourself as a victim in this discussion but that could not be further from the truth I asked a pretty pertinent and well intentioned question - why have all of your lengthy posts about division completely ignored the abuse that the coalition and boycotting fans have received, despite highlighting multiple times the abuse that boycotting fans have given? I really think that is a reasonable question. Nowhere have I put words in your mouth - I quote you directly!! You may want to twist this in to a perverse interpretation but that’s not quite how a reasoned debate works. I still don’t think you have acknowledged the rank abuse the coalition has received. In all of your post on divisions, it is about people not respecting YOUR opinion. Across both this thread and the forum that you moderate you have told some untruths which have gone unchecked. In one post, you have accused the coalition of saying that fans who disagree with a boycott “are not the type needed at the club because they don’t care about Rovers”. This has never been said by the coalition or its spokesperson. An individual support may have but that is not the same. Claiming this is a quote from the coalition is just false. This type of untruth is divisive in nature and it begs the question why, despite all of your protestations and claims of reasoned and rationalised posts. The pattern of your posts is that when it comes to a discussion about the coalition or boycotting fans there’s a subtle drift from “reasoned and rationalised debate” to accusation. This would be like me saying that, because a fan on your board once accused the coalition members of wanting to be celebrities, that is a direct from yourself. History tells us you would call out this type of bad faith debate. When the shoe is on the other foot however you want to provide a light touch to debate; yet, if YOUR opinion should be criticised, it should be moderated to a much higher degree I do not think you have approached this discussion in good faith. Now you can sit and accuse me interpretation or twisting or whatever other accusation you want to throw at me goozburger but it couldn’t be any more inaccurate. I thought you were an excellent poster during your time on here and I think you have, at times, presented yourself well on this discussion however I cannot shake a sense of bias in your posts that you are veiling in a constant assertion you are being rational and reasonable at all times. Sorry for that and if that makes me a far left, wingy, toxic little echo chamber maniac then so be it- have your way.

carricks game plan undone after 1/2 hour😅

I was meaning more they wont spend the going rate on wages more than transfer fees. Also, dont forget they sold Hyam in the last few hours of the summer transfer window which would have been £3m in they weren't necessarily expecting so I dont think they deserve a ticker tape welcome through town for reinvesting that money either!

Problem is that the selling club usually inflates the value of the deal to appease their fans, the buying club doesn't disclose or plays down the price for the same reason, then it's usually somewhere in-between. I'd be very surprised if we have put our hand in our pockets and produced 3 million quid, even if it's in installments. If it's anywhere near that amount, I think it would be subject to all sorts of clauses and hedging our bets on our part.