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I put the word in your mouth, but when you say some random from Bristol City wouldn't have to be very good to be an upgrade on Toth, it suggests a very low opinion of him, one I can't imagine is shared by more than a handful of fans across the whole fanbase. I wasn't looking for confrontation, I'm just stunned you don't think he is at least a steady, dependable keeper at this level. Tbh I think you tend to form your judgements on players early and not let them go when they improve or settle in. I suspect your opinion of Toth is based 90% on him being a bit wobbly at first when he came in last season. Since we got relegated, Toth is the most dependable keeper we've had bar Kaminski, and we've tried quite a few. Obviously Raya was the most gifted, but a bit prone to errors (still really liked him overall at the time, but I can't say he was consistently dependable to the same degree as the other two). This O'Leary would have to be a very good keeper at Championship level to improve on Toth.

A few years ago he was being looked at by Bayern as a second/third choice if I recall

I've a feeling he will be at a big German club before long. Perhaps a Raya style transfer Rovers > bottom 8 prem team > top 4 foreign team.

Toth will be a prem keeper

Not going to argue with anyone who says he's better than Pears and he's improved since he first arrived but imo he's not that good no. "Shit" is your term looking for confrontation not mine.

Seriously? Toth is an excellent keeper at this level, and a full international with good experience too. He is also on the ascendancy in his career, unlike Pears who seems to be flatlining. That's why someone will get good money for him (notice I didn't say 'the club', as we know any funds incoming are mysteriously trousered and have no relationship to funds allocated for purchases).

Pears agreed Toth for me has been excellent this season and looks a fine keeper

Think the tone for this window is well and truly set. Any budget surplus from the summer window will not be spent. I think this window there will be a net trading surplus on player trading. Will be no surprise to see either Toth or Alebiosu, or even both, sold. Our target market will be desperados, loans that cost almost feck all (as Cashin) and cheap unproven imports from Europe.

Seriously? You think Toth is shit?

3 new data lead signings.

Toth will be sold by the summer They have already tried to shunt Pears out of the door, they may succeed in the near future. He hasn't been disastrous for us this season, so he may have done enough to earn himself an escape That would leave us with an 18 year old Michalski., so a cheap/free player would probably suit Rudy/Pasha perfectly From what I have seen, O'Leary is inferior to Toth, & a similar standard to Pears. On the bright side, he is better than Ethan Horvath, who I hypothesised earlier, that he may be on the shopping list

Pretty sure nobody is back at the moment There were training pictures of a few, but from memory Morishita Litherland, Gudjohnsen & Forshaw will be back in the team by the end of January, Carter, Wharton & Kargbo will be February, Tavares is further away, Montgomery is unknown, & Hedges may be the season. Alebiosu is away until next week

Makes sense. I think we only have about six keepers already on the books. As always linked with non starters or cheap squad fillers and never anyone who will actually significantly improve the starting X1. Edit: tbf just checked and he seems to have been out for a while having sustained an ankle injury during the play off finals. He wouldnt have to be particularly good to be an upgrade on either Toth or Pears.

I dont actually think it's a priority to challenge the non response to the letter, the longer it is ignored, the worse it looks on the Club. In response to your second point, I hope the boycott is a huge success from your point of view, but even if it is, I doubt it will achieve much in itself frankly. Sustained action over an extended period of time however might, and it all has to start somewhere and this is an ideal first step.

6 days and 5 hours until we play Swansea away. Surely that must be a game we should aim to get something from. How many training sessions will our new left wing back and striker(s) get with the team before this one?

Leonard in League One is at the right level now. The lad needed 10 chances to score one goal and I won't forget the League Cup match at Chelsea early in the second half when we were up about to celebrate a certain goal and he somehow managed to shoot wide. That's not say he was worse than Gueye - he wasn't - and I'm sure he would have had game time this season with all the injuries and loss of form but there's alot of rose tinted spectacles about him as a player. He wasn't really very good.

Itll be a busy agent.

This is really very good. Thanks to all involved.

If true, it can only mean we're looking to sell Pears or Toth. Hopefully the former but probably the latter knowing this mob.

You do start a lot of sentences like that. It shouldnt have come to this, Venkys refused to pay for a pitch revamp a couple of years ago, its all on them. Is his technical ability decent? Certainly not seen any signs of it.

I think they only wanted Gueye on loan and I'm sure it was the tail of window when it was reported they had expressed an interest Leonard turned down a new contract

Sky linking us with Bristol City keeper Max O'leary along with Derby and Qpr. Has 6 months left on his contract

You've summed it up perfectly there in three and a bit lines. For me there's simply no point in wasting time and money actively following a Club whose only goal is to be "sustainable" (Pasha) or which says in February/ March when you're in the play off positions that the goal for the season was never actually making them but planning for the following season. (Gestede) All allowed by owners with no interest who couldnt care less.

It is strange that Gueye was kept around when the manager clearly doesn't rate him whatsoever and we had an Arab club looking to buy him for, I assume, more than we got for Leonard. If the manager didn't rate either, at least Leonard was young enough to have the potential to improve. I find it really hard to imagine that Leonard wouldn't have been getting some game time recently (even without his apparent improvement this season) whilst Gueye has been nowhere to be seen. I guess the reasons are that Gueye wasn't as out of favour with the manager at that time, as he was given some minutes earlier in the season, during which Ismael has clearly decided he has had enough. Well, between that and the alleged lack of application during training which I think meant he wasn't selected as a point of principle more than anything. In hindsight, we definitely should have sold Gueye and kept Leonard. But if you look at last season, Gueye contributed more than Leonard did so I can see why the decision was made how it was at the time. It has turned out to be the wrong one though.

Buckley got pelters but he'd be much better in that "10" position than anything we have in the club at the moment imo. His better performances were always when played higher and asked to pinch the ball back JRC at wing back, potential, but his lack of pace would have made him suffer in an Ismael system, where basically you are required to run more than you are required to play football. Leonard could have been given another year for me. But again, I reckon he'd have broke down in an Ismael team, where rotation does not exist and the effort required is enormous. We have a much worse team than last year, no doubt. I can't think of a single player who has improved what came before him. Alebiosu is a good signing but on a par with Brittain. Gudjohnsen is a good signing but we have had better. The only thing I can say about Gudjohnsen is that he would have scored a stupid amount of goals under JDT imo. We were carving teams open at times and putting that ball into the danger area with few people to get on the end of it. JDT was crying out for a Gudjohnsen and, as always with Venky FC, it came years after we needed it