Montgomery started one game there. He got sent off. Duru played one minute and injury time.

So how much would you pay for a player to run down the wing hit a brick wall more than not and get the odd great cross in and the odd goal here and there. Enthusiasm is great but defo not the finished product otherwise he would already be at another club.so it will be interesting to see where he ends up.

Brittain will be a loss I don’t know how anybody could think differently

trying to make the point of position on the pitch. And I completely agree with the Baath one, hes a massive loss, we are short at CB and he was a leader. Its also a key position which is not always easy to fill. I dont look at Brittain and think leader....

Good business for Venky's - money straight into their pockets. Good business for Pasha, Gestede and Owen - bonuses on the way. Good business for the team ? - Absolutely not

He's gone from here as his contract has expired. He's not gone anywhere else - yet.

Solid, experienced Championship player, like Baath. We don't have many, and they're both gone, and unlikely to be replaced. They will be missed. At a struggling, badly managed club like ours, I don't see why anyone cannot see this is a big deal.

yeh i get what you mean. Cost cut every corner i know.

Arguably, he's already here. Hedges.

For me it’s not how good or not he is. It’s how much worse his replacement would likely be.

All unemployed and desperate to get back working in the Championship. Lambert needed a steady job after the Villa experience, Mowbray was unemployable in the Championship and had been turned down by Chesterfield after the state he left Coventry in. JDT wanted a route into England to enhance his reputation and foolishly believed this was a serious outfit and Eustace needed to build on his short Birmingham spell and had been overlooked by numerous other Championship clubs over the previous 6 months. Common denominator - all were unemployed and keen to work - and all realised after getting into the building the true nature of the Venky beast. Lambert, JDT and Eustace couldn't wait to get out of here. The first two preferred unemployment to staying here any longer, the latter preferred to gamble his career on an uphill battle to avoid League One at Derby County. Odd one out Mowbray but he managed to get his holiday to India at the start which got his feet under the table and the assurances he wanted, and even then he was undermined and disgracefully treated in his last 12-18 months. Ismael will go the same way as Lambert, JDT and Eustace. If he makes it to 12 months I will be amazed.

We looked better under Eustace collectively because we were solid as a unit. He might of been better than the previous season, but id say its a bit far fetched to say he was brilliant. Hes not a massive loss imo. Its a fullback, most younger players can usually slip in pretty well at full back with a bit of experience around them. Look at owen beck, even montgomery looked 'ok' there, and even Duru away against burnley when we were down to 10 looked 'ok there', even costello did ok there at times. Its not the hardest position out the 11 to fill imo. Id say its one of the 'easier' positions to fill out of an 11. Im not underplaying his ability because hes leaving, its my honest opinion. Its good money for a fullback thats replaceable. Brittains an ok footballer, he wont define how our season will shape whether he stays or goes. Just my opinion.

Which even if correct puts him probably about two brackets above the calibre of player we're currently targeting.

So has he gone or what...

Brittain was a key player last season. To say it's not a big deal and then say Duru (who has played the sum total of 1 whole minute in the Championship) is ready to replace him is fantasy talk. Montgomery is currently ahead of him as are new signing Alebiosu. None of them are nowhere near Brittain's quality at the moment, though. I get the the feeling that some posters on here are deliberately trying to downplay every outgoing from the club, whether it's Dolan, Brittain, Batth or someone else...

I bet he doesn't transfer once in his career for anything over £3m. Hard-worker, poor technique, weak finisher, not that quick but is over inflated because he's young, English and has played way too many games at an underinvested club. We've made him appear better than he is. I'm absolutely certain he wouldn't have got the number of appearances he did with us at any other top 8 Championship club... and he's cashing in on it. He's low risk now but I'm not sure anyone decent ever would have taken the risk on him.

You could look at it at a different way, Would Dolan be in the first team squad regularly at Norwich? If he was in and around the first team mainly as sub for the last 2 years and only made 15 appearances, mainly as sub appearances. Then how much would he be worth? I would say £1million. Still doesn't make any difference that he should of been allowed to run his contract down with Rovers receiving zero. Is Brittain a villian for pushing for a move with a year left on his contract which he knows he won't renew with the peanuts that Rovers will offer him, or does he earn £3 million for the club that has looked after him and improved him for the last few years. Look at Dolan, Brereton, Lenihan, Nyambe to name a few in the last few years that have completely sold us as fans and the club who had nurtured them. The real villains are Venkys, pasha and gestede for the piss poor management and driving these players out with our league 1 budget

Just read the Lancashire Telegraph comments on the Dolan article and it has absolutely blown my mind how fast people turn on a player without seeing the wood for the trees on this one. its not that the player is greedy, or has an enormous ego - purely it’s because we as a club haven’t made a suitable offer and likely absolutely low balled him no wonder venkys are still here, still pulling the same shit and getting away with it

Mabe Travis's answer of "When they offer me one" really meant "when they offer me one worth considering".

He seems to be saying "I'd like them to stay but we're going to lose them because of the contract situation". Shrug of the shoulders, "Nothing to do with me Guv, blame it on the previous administration." I find him completely uninspiring myself. Only here to pick up his pay cheque. Not a scrap of ambition about him.

Yes I was just starting to worry but Woakes has fixed me. Great display from Captain Stokes, what a warrior he is. Very long spell at his age and given his injury history. Always leads by example. Assuming we win next two tests will be seismic.

We were on the 'Accy' side of the centre circle. I noticed Carter pull up, then a few moments later he was feeling the back of his thigh so I thought 'hamstring' straight away. My daughter said the same. Hopefully just a twinge though. We also noticed the horses near the away entrance. Perhaps there for traffic control, I dunno, but their presence looked a bit odd considering the low key occasion.

Don't tempt fate 47er, this is England playing and we're experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory Edit: Woakes strikes just before lunch, eight down

Sorry, wrong poster!

Wow! 112 for 8. Surely we will win now!