Never forget....those tossers took the piss out of our protesting fans.

It's almost a carbon copy of the last big fire sale that lead to relegation when you stand back and look at it and of course the younger Venky apologists in the fanbase won't have seen that or won't really remember it and how it all started. Add in the revolving head coach and staff door and directors and staff leaving or being shoved out whilst inside the club a novice from nowhere suddenly seems to be running everything. Only difference this time is players sold aren't being replaced by old men on tens of thousands per week. End result will probably turn out the same sooner or later though.

The City lads didn’t look happy during that mauling. Well played chaps.

They might, the fabric is getting a bit ropey. 😉

My bad but as you say the point holds (I think).

The ticket office hasn't been open on a Monday for a while.

I can’t see why not.

This clearly doesn’t affect your overall point but the E is Elite (Elite Significant Contribution).

Our recruitment has been a bit strange when you think about it. We signed a player who had been playing at left back for last season and much of his career as a winger. A central midfielder to play as a number 10. And 2 right backs, one who has kicked on playing as a wing back and the other as a right sided centre back. I wonder if we will end up playing a back 3/5 this season purely by accident because of imbalances in the squad and recruitment.

I’ve not been following this, but if Mafoumbi came on for his 30 second cameo and converted his whatever to a whatever, could we then send him on loan? Because if I were him I’d want to go somewhere in league two where I might get some senior minutes, and would gladly make a first team appearance just to be able to get that? Or am I misunderstanding this?

Actually thinking about it, if it was me I'd get the ball and whack it into my own net walk to the dug out and drop my shorts. But that's just me.

Re the pushback on my Mafoumbi comments: 'Exceptional' to my knowledge is the 'E' in 'ESC' not my assessment. There's a difference in my mind to someone being told they're not good enough and to find another club in private, it's another to force the guy to walk on to the pitch for 30 seconds with 10K+ people sniggering about how useless he is and he's there only to free up an admin glitch. Hedges - funny quip, like it. I'm just saying we're fairly decent supporters at this club and I'd like to think we'd agree it would be a painful and embarrassing thing to witness. That's all.

It would be interesting to see how close to the Sheff Wed situation we would be had it not been for the decision to liquidate £45 million of playing assets to pay the bills. That particular 'strategy' is coming to a shuddering halt now and at best they've another £5 million to cash in this summer before the well has run dry. The only hope then for the regime is that one or more of the cheap foreign punts / academy lads turns out to be a hidden gem and attracts big money interest - a stretch with the state and length of contract we are offering people. Whether the regime here would allow it to get to that state not sure - we're going to find out soon enough - my prediction is that Sheff Wed's problems will be behind them and they'll be under ambitious new ownership before then.

Bit of a change in tone from when we had our Kean out and Venkys out days. The Soccer Saturday panel tore into the fans at every opportunity. Worst fans in the league, poison, toxic, spoiled etc. I nearly put a big screen through one Saturday afternoon I was so incensed. Then came them rolling out the smear attack on the fans with Jerome Anderson. Not watched SSN since. They were PR campaign against us and we've never recovered we get no sympathy from the wider football world.

And yet in the last 10 years I can’t think of many better holding central midfielders we have had than Travis or Tronstadt (Wharton excepted). He’s been better than Lowe, Evans, Grimes, Guthrie, Akpan, Bennet, Tunnicliffe, Williamson, Smallwood, Trybull, Whittingham, JRC, Davenport, Buckley, Johnson, Holtby, Garrett, Morton, Baker, Forshaw, Baker. The only one I can find is possibly Harrison Reed. And most of those above were brought in during eras when we probably paid more like the going wage in salaries and loan fees. Tronstadt is an absolute one off. There is very little chance that if Travis leaves we will get someone in of the same quality in the Euro bargain bucket we shop in. The damage was done 6 to 18 months ago by not renewing his contract. I reckon a lot of these would have renewed last November / December under JE. Money brought in doesn’t help the squad, so for the sake of our Championship status I hope we keep him and he walks on a free next summer,

Err - The Valentine Brothers.

Moneys too tight to mention -simply red

Then people will wonder why despite cutbacks the running costs don't come down. How many others are they still paying i wonder.

In the FF meeting Suhail answered the initial question regarding Waggott with one word. It took a lot of probing around directorial responsibilities and EFL rules for him to admit that Waggott was still employed. He seemed very reluctant to do so. I don’t think Lowe being absent from Brockhall or Ewood will necessarily mean he isn’t being paid by Rovers. I expect that both he and Waggott will have very nice looking gardens at the end of the summer.

Don’t think I’ve seen him play CB. Miller took a lot of stick from the pundits up here for a lot of heavily punished defensive errors, but he had his moments too. I’d say he’s more of a “no nonsense” type of player. Different type of wing back to Alebiosu. Maybe it’ll be a bit of a horses for courses situation for you guys depending on who you’re playing and what tactics you want to employ. Alebiosu is a much more impactful player in my opinion though.

Yeah. That happened. A couple of examples of club requested songs I vetoed: Take Me Home, Country Roads (someone had been to Old Trafford) Glad All Over. More than once.

I’d request a cut of his transfer fee but we all know he’d leave on a free.

LeAnn Rimes - How Do I Live

Very good chance of it happening .

Kidder Street Noise are recording it…this week I imagine…