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Please dont do it matty...more Brains in a Meat Pie some of those Posters on there.

This more than Travis leaving is the “ Ken Knighton “ moment for me. The time we run the white flag up the flag pole.

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There is no chance we get anything here. Not even worth doing a score prediction.

Said it all summer but we are in big trouble this year. Already lost 4 out of 5 and replaced all our experienced pros with foreign gambles. I think the manager is a dud, the executives rotten to the core and morale of staff/players already at the floor. Package all that against a very competitive league this year where even bottom feeders and promoted clubs have spent considerable funds improving their squad with experienced pros. The only real disaster club is Sheff Wed which leaves 2 more spaces up for grabs of which I am fairly certain we will be one.

Tattoos?

It's the hope that kills you

While I am sure what Glen is right about Gestede, the real driver of the squad turnover and making players pay for their food is ultimately massive cost reduction targets. I think it would be fair to say finishing 21st but breaking even would be viewed as more of a success than finishing 3rd, losing the playoff final, but making a loss.

He's a willing accomplice and just happy to take the remuneration,its a disastrous situation make no mistake.

Gardner-Hickman shone under Ismael playing CM. Hardworking midfielder with lots of defensive attributes. Perfect if we are going to deploy defensive midfielders.

This is why I am surprised it seems all focus is now on Gestede. When he eventually gets pushed aside, two constants remain: Venkys AND Suhail.

I don’t think he’s part of ot I just think he’s happy to be employed and collect a wage

Ismael is part of the problem in that, like most of the players, he isn't very good He made it a bit of name for himself at Barnsley but, as been pointed out, he benefited there from the good work done by the previous manager. In his 14 year managerial / coaching career he's been at 10 clubs. He's never been anywhere longer than 2 seasons Will he walk or will he be sacked? Either way, he's unlikely to be here very long And so it goes on, lurching from one crisis to another

gestede wouldn’t last a few minutes at any other club. 💩🎪

So religious laws being enforced here?...Women being asked to cover their Arms and Food going Halal. Is there still the freedom of choice,WTF is going on here!?😲

Believe they also have to pay now or at least contribute. Decisions like that in my experience usually point towards a business going bust, but in our case its possibly just Rudy being a cunt.

I’ll have my hankies at the ready.

Venkys 'got away' with it before because people focused their energy / attention on subordinates - Kean, Singh, Shaw, Waggott, Coyle, now its Gestede and Suhail. Whilst I fully accept that those subordinates are a symptom of the problem and need addressing urgently as they should be nowhere near running a Championship football club - we must not lose sight of the ultimate control here. One thing that concerns me is that when, eventually, Gestede is moved aside and made into the fall guy for the latest disaster, that people think everything will get sorted out and that there is a future with Venkys once they employ someone better to run the show at Ewood. Isn't happening folks. Our problems will remain for as long as they do. This is all happening on their watch.

He won't and that's why I said, any self respecting manager, as I believe him to be as big a part if it as Gestede and Pasha.

It can’t really be as it’s a form of discrimination in the work place

Why would he do that though? val should have known this was on the cards the previous 2 managers have been shafted it can’t come as a surprise to him he’s the yes man they wanted. In his next interview he will recycle the usual spiel about transition period is now / have to knuckle down and back the team / new model / more assets / previous mistakes and I’d say the kicker will be they might try an push this Jan window as some sort of olive branch to the fans stating we will have money to strengthen etc but you are right any manager with self respect would be straight into gestede this morning demanding answers

No surprise there to be honest I do wonder if the arms uncovered story is down to some religious belief too.

Great stat that. You really come up with some good ones. Thanks @wilsdenrover. We've turned over 8 experienced players (Brittain, Hyam, Travis, Baath, Wieman, Dolan, Buckley, JRC). It does seem a stretch that we will have come down 10k per week per player though... I guess the last accounts would have had players from the season before in there too (Szmodics) but then we took on a lot of cost too (Cantwell). I guess not having a CEO saves 7k a week. You can draw a line from a lot of our seemingly mad decisions to reducing this one figure.

That's exactly what I was thinking around 4.00am this morning, as I struggled to sleep due to this lot. Any self respecting person, would steam into the office this morning, play holy roaring fuck and shove their contract right up Gestede's and Pasha's arses. I feel like doing it myself and I am just a fan.

the ego on that fella is laughable for a lad who was on work experience a year ago.