Maybe they didnt, maybe they expected it. But it still would piss you off when it happens or you at least wouldnt agree with it or actively want it.

Theres been a need by some to tar Gestede with the Waggott brush ever since he came in. It's obvious to me that Ismael didn't mean Gestede when talking about mistakes in the past but some are adamant he did. I'm open minded and will judge them both on results

Fixed it properly.

We had a number of spells with Waggott here where we did sort new deals. Notably one under Broughton and one under Mowbray. He clearly was never the reason as it doesnt make sense. It coincides with regular owner cutbacks.

I would love to know what the owners thoughts are, are they totally in the dark as to what's going on here? The fanbase has been decimated the playing squad is a joke and heading for relegation as things stand. The club is rudderless and drifting dangerously. @glen9mullan might be able to shed some light on things in Pune? Is it the case they don't give a flying f

In the famous slightly abridged words of potentially one of the world's presidents, 'There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.'

Happened to JDT happened to Eustace - how he or his agents/reps thought this would be different is beyond me

1980 - but most clubs could say that in their entirety so be safer putting some time frame on it no?

Maybe not. However no-one is telling me he's not part of the reason we're in as much of a mess as we are. We all knew the owners would lose interest eventually, admittedly it took a lot longer than expected and a Court case, but Mowbray plodded along like the Club was his own private pension fund regardless. Ditto Waggott.

Im not too sure on that, I'd say the comment regarding fans needing to remember in not 94/95 anymore with Shearer and Sutton was very naughty. It was self serving and not a fair comment from somebody who carried weight in the game, knowing people in the game would see it as an honest, assessed comment.

What? Thats like saying if a manager knows that he has £100k transfer budget, how could he be mad that he doesnt have more when he knew they only had £100k. He has no control over budget. Purely from his perspective, his squad is being made massively weaker because we lack the willingness to finance and the proactivity to offer proper contracts. So we sign inferior crap. If hes on board and fully aligned then hes an idiot.

he was ok was tony,risk averse with his team shapes but a decent coach and top bloke definately not even remotely the worst venky crime by any means

leonard is cooked,he`ll never have a consistent run because he`s always injured,shame,.because it think he`s a tidy player who can certainly finish i thought tyjon did ok on tuesday,he was up against uncompromising players,he does need to bulk up,if he does there is definately a player there

This. "Historic failures" my arse. Same owners, same COO. The only thing that you could possibly say is that it was solely because Waggott was refusing to extend any contracts which I could run with to an extent, but, even if that were the case then following his departure they COULD have rectified these "historic failures" instantly by sorting out the contracts of Dolan/Brittain/Travis/Tronstad/Hyam etc. They dont or didn't want to. End of story.

If Ismael knows how much the club is willing to offer players going forward, why would he be annoyed at the club not offering more to keep them?

Tyjon and Leonard would get the absolute shit kicked out of them playing as a 9 in the Championship.

Perhaps JDT, via Broughton, was instructed that Travis was a 'problem' due to his 'high earner' status and that he would need removing from the team/squad to free up cash. The Ipswich scheme failed because they had little use for him when getting automatic promotion and then he came back just as someone else (Waggott apparently) had appointed Eustace who immediately recognised the value of him and made him central to his plans, together with bringing in other established Championship players. None of those things fit the 'model' the Regime have had in mind for the last 3-4 years so they were more than happy to get Eustace out, grab the compo and find a coach willing to oversee their plans.

No chance how could we possibly start negotiations now when we won't know what division we will be in until the end of the 26/27 season ?

It would be another "exciting opportunity" no doubt.

In terms of things that angered me under Venky’s, I’m not sure Mowbray even makes the top 20.

How could anyone have seen if he had potential to be any good ?🤣

Conversely:- I agree with most of the posts re the dire situation we find ourselves in (on and off the pitch) but... ...this is footy. Just like Rovers to eke out a win or draw. Cue all the 'new regime' apologists to lord it for a bit -you know how it goes: -time to bed in, new project, totally new personnel etc etc And, although sharing the general gloom (who wouldn't given the last 14 years), 10 games is time for a fair assessment. Venkys out obvs.

I dont know why you keep saying "historic failures" when the same idiots are running things. If Ismael is genuinely happy to see all of our proven Championship quality leave and be replaced by whatever we can pluck from random leagues for under a milion, then he is a bit thick. But more importantly, the removal of quality from our squad becomes more important than whether Ismael is "aligned" with the idea. With Hyam for example, it isnt historic. We are just choosing not to offer a proper contract. If we did he seemingly would sign.

jackson writes what he`s told to write,if venkys put out a statement that they are demolishing ewood park ,he would`nt question why

In fairness Rev, there are a lot of supporters who think that Mowbray did a more than decent job. Personally, I thought he brought a period of much needed stability to the club and did a sound job for us.