Don't let these silly facts get in the way.

Surely if we made up an injury the player would have some form of come back towards us, is this what you are hinting at? A new stint since we wore out the fax machine excuse.

Classic that was. How long was he out for us only to play for spurs 1st game after they signed him. Selling Samba after our windows closed. Kean.

I am with you on that Waggy. Been saying that for a while. Let's see if Ismael does well then leaves. These chicken and football team killers need to be gone. My thoughts are they will be ok with us holding our own in the 3rd division.

Well, I took some time and made a few calculations on this. All figures below are fetched from Transfermarkt and Capology. Dolan's wage is unknown but I assumed it was around 3 K / week as reported by others on this forum. Other assumption(s) is that all figures fetched from these sources are somewhat accurate and that we covered 100 % of the wages for all five loans we had last season: Outgoings at the start of season: Weimann 17 500 / week Batth 10 000 / week JRC 8 500 / week Dolan 3 000 / week (?) Dennis 28 000 / week Woodrow 20 000 / week Sigurdsson 15 000 / week Sanderson 10 000 / week ACD 7 000 / week Beck 3 500 / week McFadzean 3 500 / week Gilsenan 1 500 / week Markanday 2 000 / week Total: £129 500 / week 129 500 x 52 = £6 734 000 per year to be spent on salaries and transfer fees I'm discounting the transfer fee received for JRC (£750 000) since 0 % of it is going into transfer budget as per Gestede's previous comment. Ingoings so far: Tavares - reported fee: £1,72 million (2 million euros), alleged salary: £10 000 / week (based on his previous salary at Moreirense) De Neve - reported fee: £650 000 (750 000 euros), alleged salary: £5 000 / week (based on his previous salary at Kortrijk) Alebiosu- reported fee: £500 000 (576 000 euros), alleged salary: £2 500 / week (based on his previous salary at Kortrijk) McLoughlin - reported fee: £500 000 (575 000 euros), alleged salary: £10 000 / week (based on his previous salary at Hull) Total: Transfer fees: £3 370 000 Salaries (per year, assuming all four signings have the same salary as last season): 27 500 x 52 = £1 430 000 £3 370 000 (fees) + £1 430 000 (salaries) = £4 800 000 Outgoings - Ingoings = £1 934 000 left to be spent on fees and salaries. This amount is equivalent to signing a player on a free for roughly £37 000 per week OR paying £1.5 million in transfer fee and offer a salary of roughly £8 300 per week (Baradji anyone?). So, not much left in the coffers i guess? EDIT: one caveat to all this could be, of course, that we're paying the transfer fees in instalments. But I don't think the owners would like taking on more debt for relatively 'insignificant' transfers (or maybe they are 'significant' just like with Kargbo?).

Midweek evening games are inconvenience to me but one I accepted given its my choice to work nights. It's suits me and my family to work that shift pattern. Try working a night shift off 5 hours instead 8 hours. Still banging on about this after a year. PL is different League competition so has no baring of EFL games

Obviously it doesnt affect the man who has absolutely no other committments. But 12.30 kick offs are certainly a huge inconvenience for many. Kids playing football in a morning will be a huge one where subsequently it is impossible or at least incredibly difficult to then get to Ewood by half 12. Its absolutely ridiculous that there are now 8 games (1 Premier League, 3 Championship, 2 League 1 and 2 League 2) all on in that time slot. Its a total disregard shown by clubs for agreeing to this and then obviously Sky for arranging them. Why do people need so many games in that time slot when you can only watch 1 at once? You see random games like Wimbledon v Lincoln, Stanley v Salford, Norwich v Preston etc just as add ons, I would love to know how many neutrals will choose games like that out of a choice of 8.

400 pages of excitement...

I don't think he's the gumption for sarcasm TBF.

Maybe we should all have a whip round and buy venkys. We can asset strip the fuck out of it and spend all the money on Rovers.

Honestly Chaddy you can bore off fella. I'm sick and tired of reading you defending club decisions and deriding those who have moved on to better themselves. You're a patsy, and a willing one at that.

Not a metric

400 pages Should get to 700 by the end of the window, about nothing. Managed decline continues. Venkys out is the only thing that matters.

You're dancing on a pin there! But I suppose we'll find out what sort of a window its been soon enough!

Is that linked? Links means nothing. Rovers will have scouted alot of players hence we seen linked. Question is how many have we bid for and they gone elsewhere.. Bali Mumda was linked to replace Brittain but given he is still here hence we haven't moved for Mumba Is the really best you got Mercer. Give it Mercer was all this crap.

https://eflanalysis.com/opinion/acun-ilicali-will-be-fuming-over-efl-decision-after-hull-city-agreed-contract-with-111-goal-target/

File it alongside Junior Hoilett nearly signing a deal extension and Ronaldinho, Riquelme and Beckham almost signing for us.

I suspect at least one those 3 players, will leave on the last day of the transfer window.

Where has Arnor Sigurdsson's wage saving gone? Come to think of it where have the savings made on Batth, Dolan, Weimann, Beck, McFadzean, Markanday, JRC gone? Surely nobody in their right mind believes that the signings of Tavares, De Neve, Alibiousu and McLoughlin have gone anywhere near to covering those savings? I could - almost - accept it if the savings had been used to ensure Trav, Tron, Hyam, Carter or Brittain had got proper new contracts, but no, not a single one of those has been sorted, surprise surprise. So once again a good window if the focus is on avoiding new contracts, cutting back the wage bill and saving money. Not sure it has been a good window if the focus is on putting a decent side out or protecting our rapidly dwindling assets. What ever happened to Nixon's cock and bull about Brittain 'imminently' signing his new deal?

It’s over a month since the Community Trust advised Companies House that Waggott is no longer one of their directors. The club are yet to do the same. Incompetence or something else?

Teams like Preston and Millwall have been comfortably outstripping us on fees for the last few years now since the latest Venky cuts were imposed mid-summer under JDT. Blows a massive hole in the claims that we need to charge what we do for season tickets to ensure we have a competitive budget / FFP nonsense. We've got away with it up to now thanks to the legacy of a good squad left by Mowbray and Broughton/JDT and good management by Eustace. I have a feeling that in the not-too-distant future that will end, probably just about after they've seen off the remaining solid core in Travis, Tronstad and Brittain.

Comparisons with anyone are flawed, different players in different circumstances. Ages, types of player, contract length, financial situation at selling club etc. I just look at the circumstances mentioned. Every single one went against us getting market value so logic says that we must have got below it. Its hard to put an exact amount on how much we should have got.

Not disagreeing we sold from a very weak position and yes in the summer we Probably would have got a few million more but it would not have been one of the big boys buying Palace or a similar standing club would have bought him .If a big club was going to take him it would have been in that window because he was going in the summer regardless the other best plsyer getting sold Szmodic we wouldn't have built around them so fan or not he wouldn't have seen progression or a chance of Premier league here We can all agree that Palace got a bargain but the interest from the bigger clubs wasn't there at 18 million yet people think clubs would have paid 30 million as a championship player playing for a team who were losing most weeks , it would be lower to mid teams in the prem doing the bidding in the summer for him and it wouldn't have been much more than what we got The comparisons with Hackney are a bit daft with it being used as a stick to say the people with a similar opinion to myself are wrong as Gibson is selling to a championship rival and there have been reports it's 15 million rising to 20 but even if it is £20 he is going to Ipswich because no Club in the prem will pay that for him

Definitely no coin coming our way for the bills now then and the push to sell Brittain will ramp up. By the way have Hyam, Travis and Tronstad been offered their contract extensions yet ? Way more to this than the farcical court case and always has been i hope the bank calls in its VH debt !

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