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That one was definitely just propaganda.

I’m not being forceful - I wouldn’t say it is an assertion. It is more an observation around your language and posting history. I am not trying to twist it. I’ve given you examples of your posts, told you how I think it is coming across and asked you why. I haven’t put words in your mouth as I have directly quoted you. This is all part of the critical debate you appear to want. If you don’t like being criticised yourself, perhaps you shouldn’t be so forceful in criticising others. In both of your posts about division your examples were centred to fans who boycott. On the other forum, your criticism extends to fans on here who disagree with you. I think it is entirely fair to ask why you have never once criticised any of the abuse that the coalition and boycotters have received themselves, including on the board in which you moderate. This is despite some very reasoned and voluminous posts you have made on the subject. You would have thought, in an objective view, you would have acknowledged this by now and without having to be prompted I think you need to attempt harder to find middle ground with your fellow fans. Thousands of people are telling you they have had enough through boycotting. There must be a better approach to your interaction in all of this that does not involve asking those people to produce an in depth business case for what is next in order to for them to be so rewarded with your participation

Timmy Thomas - Why Can’t We Live Together

The 25% rule covers all non footballing creditors not just owners but I agree it rewards them. I believe there’s a 15 point deduction for failing to comply with this rule - I think we’d all take that in exchange for Venkys not getting a penny…

Leicester have sacked their manager.

For the last few windows we've been told we made bids for strikers for big money. (3 off the top of my head) Sambou Soumano Mostafa Mohamad Willem Geubbels A lot of noise from Nixon who seemed very confident that we were fronting up the money..... But again, we were offering well under the value they wanted Stinks of the "we tried but...." IF, and it's a big IF, the money is there, it only seems to be there for these below market value bids.... Because it always seems to dissappear by the start of the following window, and we need up flapping and scraping around for the next load of tosh

Thanks for clarifying. Either way it's seems a bonkers rule to me - a reward for bad ownership if you will.

Yes, it works both ways. People are stubborn and then it gets a bit personal. I did call Rev a negative bugger recently. Soz, Rev! My apologies, poor form, and that's an example of my own that doesn't help, so I'll hold my hands up and own that. In my defense, and for those that have known of me for a while, I don't generally resort to that. However, Dreams, please stop with this assertion that I'm blaming boycotters for driving fans apart. What I've said is that it's the reactions (yes, in this case, from some who support a boycott) to opinions that cause division. Just like yours is doing now when, for whatever reason, you're really trying to twist what I've said into me blaming boycotters. I've really done no such thing and you need to stop claiming that. Anyway, it's really tiring. To each their own and that's OK.

... yet that is how your posts are coming across , especially given your posts on the other board also. Pot and kettle ? Maybe think about what the' boycotters or coalition are trying to achieve or highlight - which is not stopping people going to watch who they support ( was going to put Rovers however imo the club /team is far from recognisable as Rovers for me) What has changed or improved in 15 yrs rather than get worse.. and tell us what you think about rinse and repeat every season( much of which is predicted by many) I can't believe that anybody actually enjoys visiting never mind going on Ewood at present , regardless of reasons. I have put this hypothesis on here many moons ago, but will leave again for thought - if this was the only restaurant you attended would you keep going time after time only to be faced with no respect to provide any sort of service and being served cold or secondary food all the time etc without kicking up a fuss or raising concerns?

I think it would be nearer £33 million as it will exclude money that’s been converted into shares.

Leicester have sacked Cifuentes, no surprises there Wonder if they will make an approach for Ismael?

Minds made up I guess 🙂 And it’s tiring trying to debunk the same old tropes over and over (but it has to be done civilly). So in short, Gooze and Tricky think the boycott was fruitless. Fine. And they plus a variety of voices will continue to peddle the same track. And then there are those who think the boycotts, at the very least have raised awareness of Rao’s disastrous 15 year tenure and will continue to try and shift the narrative to open the eyes of fans, many of whom are oblivious to the continuing ineptitude of the hierarchy at this club. At best, the protests (as they evolve) may succeed in ridding us of the owners. And perhaps the protests in the long run fail, apathy reins, snouts remain in the trough and the circus continues for another decade and a half. Perhaps, just enough don’t care so long as they can watch a game of footy even if it is in a crumbling stadium with a couple of thousand fans.

Why is it not the plan though? Because they refuse to spend the money. Why do they refuse to spend the money? Because they are no longer able or willing to. Probably the latter.

On each occasion you have spoke about what drives fans apart, the reason you have given centres around the actions of boycotting fans or folk who disagree with you. Nowhere in your otherwise well reasoned posts have you ever taken note of just how much anger and vitriol the coalition and boycotting fans have received. Why is that?

everyone in their relevant back offices no doubt start laughing with derision when rovers come with a bid for their players

What a strange reply, you ask me why they won't spend money, then when I answer what they would say, you laugh🤷

For a player the selling Club want £5m for! I mean if the bid was £3m upwards or £3m rising to a max £5m with add ons then you still might not land the player but at least it would come into the category of being a serious offer rather than taking the piss.

palace are selling their assets quicker than venkys🙂,surely adam will be next through the exit door,expect liverpool,arsenal and city to be circling imo

Wharton sent off on another bad day for Palace who appear to be in freefall. Are they going to do a Leicester and drop down the league in the relegation battle Hopefully

You've done that thing again........... Lol. That's not an answer to the question I asked whether you say it or they say it!

Exactly. But the point M-B was making was they're so rich they won't be starved out and I think they could be because they won't go beyond said ceiling any longer.

What they'd tell you is, that isn't the plan,as well you know.

Isn't there some weird EFL rule whereby they're entitled to 25p in the pound therefore they'd be entitled to expect c£55m?

They’re bored of their hobby & have set a ceiling on spending.

A bit stupid of people to base him off one game. Just because he got sent off doesn’t mean he’s shite.