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I remember Souness getting a disciplinary of some kind after he asked "what can you do when the referee's a clown?" in a post match interview. With Val they were probably just completely baffled by how mental that actually was.

We have got plenty of poor players to choose from.

The point was that you was using the formation as a reason to praise Ismael whilst having a dig at previous managers who you at the time also would have defended but now theyve gone you have turned on. I just was pointing out that its not really been a roaring success. Initially we had Scott Wharton fit and got 9 of those 15 points in 3 games, hes bang average but average is much better than whats left without him. The points have not really followed since. It wasnt a debate about which formation I would or wouldnt play. To be honest, with the current set of players especially our crap defenders its impossible to build a balanced team out of whats left either way. We dont have 1 competent centre back, never mind 3, but we also dont have any competent wide players.

I note he’s been involved in four dissolved companies. Sounds perfect for the Venkys.

Wasn’t Derek Keighley his grandad or something?

Wow I had no idea this was the same person. 15 years is a long time ago and people do change and soften their views over time. But this is an extraordinary volte-face. Especially now that he's referring to other fans as idiots who don't agree with his Venky-love-in.

Yep for anyone that doesn't know, Thomas Freddie is the bloke who tried to set up FC Blackburn back in 2011 not long after venkys took over. He's a strange character that has gone 100% the other way, I'm guessing it's because he wants a way into the club. https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/9169044.rebel-rovers-fans-set-fc-blackburn/

There wouldn't be anything wrong standing in the crux of the bbe and jw stands Pavement side. A. It's busy anyway, crowds, chanting, shouting, general noise. So can't stop you based on any of those things. B. If its peaceful and just banners etc then it would be fine there would be no opposition C. If its inside the grounds on the (red brick floor) its a civil matter and you move on when the security from the property ask you to so I believe

But they are open for specific purposes of which protesting (I assume!) isn’t one of them. I don’t think it becomes a public space ‘for any reason’ just because the gates are open. Hopefully you’re right and I’m wrong as clearly Ewood would be the best place for a protest to take place. edited to add - you changed your post as I was replying 😁

Hmm, not sure about that, certainly something I’ve heard plenty of Rovers fans say… not much these days like.

I’d say, yeah once police instruct you to leave, then leave. Until then, all the club can do is ask (at which point you ‘should’ leave, but could then just wait around until police ask), and remain protesting on the pavements around the ground.

‘Up the Rovers’ said no Rovers fan ever. Sounds Claret-y to me.

There are no words that can accurately describe that Thomas Freddie but vile traitor must be the ones that comes closest. His heart must beat claret and blue and he is an absolute disgrace to his grandfather, a former Rovers Chairman, who no doubt would be spinning in his grave with shame and embarrassment.

Aren’t the gates open for a specific reason though (ie attending the match/going into the shop) and Rovers could ask people to leave if they’re there for any other purpose (ie protesting)? I agree this would create a story but purely in terms of the legalities I think they/the police could move people on. Failure to do so would then either be civil or criminal trespass (depending on other factors).

That Thomas Freddie bloke and others that have gone before and no doubt will comW in the future all do so in the hope to gain favour with execs at rovers. Hoping that they become an exec/fan representative. The idea of being a a somebody in football is massive to many people, especially the linkedin wankers of the world. There is nobody as quick to judge as someone who wishes to feather their own nest

I’m fairly sure that by law it remains a public place even if the land is privately owned, as long as it is accessible to the public (ie: as long as the gates are open). A protest outside the ground (within the gates) ought to be fine, and any ‘moving on’ would create a story.

None of our strikers are good enough to play up front on their own. I would have thought we’ve already proved that.

Timmy Shaw - Gonna Send You Back To Georgia

@KidderStreetNoise has these numbers…

Probably saving it till after the Christmas celebrations, bring us back down to earth.

The owners and their loyalists will be looking to blame poor results on a low turnout and poor atmosphere at Ewood Park. There was a big turnout and a great atmosphere versus Derby for the 150th anniversary and an even bigger and more raucous atmosphere for the game against Burnley last season, biggest home crowd and loudest it has been for many years. We bottled both of those big occasions, we've bottled every big occasion under the Venkys, so the crowd seems to have little to do with it

Which poor player will they wheel out to give the rallying cry ahead of Millwall, now they've seen the boycott call?

Nothing is off the table with this lot..nothing!

Sandie Shaw - (There’s)Always Something There To Remind Me

I hope we scrape just enough points to stay in the Championship this season, because I know that when we slip through the trap door, that will be it for a generation. At least a decade of lower league rubbish beckons when we eventually go down under this lot. Every other enjoyable aspect of supporting Rovers has been sucked out by the ownership. I still can't (can) believe the catastrophe that has occurred since the club was in 5th place last January. Complete self-inflicted disaster.