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It doesn't affect the transfer budget, it just means the club has more money to pay the bills without Venky's needing to send more funds from India. So in terms of team strengthening it makes no difference if we get a fee or not. The outcome is the same. Cost cutting and downgrading. So, not good news. To be honest, I would rather we got no fees from player sales meaning Venky's would either have to cough up more funds or decide enough is enough. Preferably the latter.

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For me it looks like the like button is not there but it's just very faint so I can still click on it

That's fair. But those who like the new cost downgrade (or er, the new singing from the same hymn sheet/all travelling in the same direction) are likely to say after 10, if it's not going well, that more timeis required for bedding in. It has been suggested that it doesn't matter where we end up in this league.

Mowbray did quite fine out of his stance. Lasted at least two years longer than he would have at most clubs considering some of the horrendous death spirals we endured during his tenure. I'm sure he was paid well and by his own admission had no real pressure to achieve anything beyond trundling along in the Championship. No fan pressure either - the bloke had flags with his face on them being waved before every home match! Don't think there's any need to feel sorry for him, he had it good here for far longer than the average manager tenure in this division.

Hmmm, he literally said, 'I'm very conscious, I don't want to take too much credit for Wharton because he was a young boy who was just coming through" and alluded to him being 15/16. It was actually the host who said that, part of her question was "You gave Adam Wharton his debut". Mowbray only spoke about him moving up to train with the seniors when there were odd numbers. Anyway, I was very grateful to Mowbray for that first 2 -3 years. Incredibly (and this gets forgotten about), he only lost 3 in 15 of that relegation season, winning 5 and drawing 7. Extrapolate that over a season and it's 67 points, one more than we got last season. Obviously the damage was badly done by the insane appointment of Coyle. Immediate bounce promotion was great (okay, we could and should have won the league maybe, whatever), and then we never really looked like being relegated under him. Sad fact is, he just couldn't kick us on to the next level, and in the end, his time was probably up. Amazing to hear his version of events that he was left completely alone in terms of transfers. Huge departure to where we are now, and seemingly have been since he left. Ultimately, he made great signings (Dack, Arma), bad signings (Gally), and probably plenty of mediocre ones. I'm probably in the middle with this. Huge appreciation for his ability to steady what was a really rocky ship, and an acknowledgement of the frustration that he couldn't just get us over the line.

It's still there if you hover to the bottom right of a post the like options are there. Text is much bolder which is great I find.

He is clearly a man of principle but in this instance I completely agree that it was a stupid stance to take and one that warrants criticism. That being said, it is the way that people have escalated it to ridiculous conclusions. I have no doubt that he did always try his best and actively want to do as well as he could for the club. Its suggestions that he was actively trying to avoid promotion which clearly make absolutely no sense and are a figment of peoples imagination.

Just as a side issue, has the site been updated? The skin looks vastly different on my phone today and the ability to like/dislike posts is no longer there?

Haha, that's quite a scathing article for the BBC. This is why Martin rubs people the wrong way. He sounds like some kind of deranged cult leader - and even worse, he has zero evidence to back up any claims that his system will bear fruit at any point in the future. It's never delivered anything more than mediocrity. Even at a parachute payment club in the Championship the best he could manage was 4th - and whilst they did ultimately achieve the bare minimum of going up, their PL campaign was so bad that if they'd kept Martin they probably would have broken the record for worst ever points tally.

£5m seems way OTT for this guy - not that there's the slightest chance of us paying anything like that. Any idea who the next target is?

Happy to have a different opinion Rev. Clearly we don't know the guy so we judge him off his public persona. You don't care for him, I do, I'm not interested in persuading anyone, just my opinion, though I do tend to think pretty deeply before saying them out loud. Wouldn't argue with 'crafty old goat' line, quite endearing really.

I'd be more confident if you said better at finishing than Gueye!

Screengrabbing this & diarising for May 😉

Do you have another highlights video, cos the top one on YouTube doesn't show that at all!

Disagree there quite strongly as two of them i'm convinced Pears doesn't save, great reflex saves that you probably wouldn't expect bank average keepers to make.

Hope they move on to the next target his club started asking for offers around 1 and with the sudden interest they keep moving the goalposts … He reminds me of a more mobile version of Gueye but who’s better at the hold up play side of it ….

Aside from the bickering and the grumbling is there any firm transfer news or even speculation? It's gone very quiet

Gueye picks up yellow cards for fun, is tactically undiciplined and can't finish. He's be a £10m+ player if he could finish just a little better, but seems to be too hot-headed to ever become composed enough. Soumane with one good season in Ligue 2... not sure he's the answer but it shows how difficult (and expensive) it is to bring in a goalscoring striker these days.

How does being a "decent human being" equate with not doing the best thing at all times for the Club which was literally his job? He's a crafty old goat. He's got everyone completely fooled with the "Jumpers for goalposts/Cuddly old Uncle Tony" routine.

Just listened to Mowbray on tippy tappy, when asked why did he not ask Venkys for more money when we had a chance of promotion he said I didn't want to ask for more, they are lovely people etc etc. Oh an he thinks Pasha is a good guy

You've either misunderstood or you're deliberately being awkward. How many players have we lost for nothing? If a player isn't going to sign ,or the manager doesn't want him, then he should be sold if there's a decent fee involved. As opposed to losing them for nothing, which has been the way for some time. If bringing £6/7 million in rather than nothing isn't good news, you'll need to explain.

I would be amazed if most of the above are not still involved .

This is just recycling my earlier words but what the heck I still believe it. TM saved our club. Just look at the scum bags, miscreants and crooks that had there fingers in our pie. Things had reached the breaking point, the club and support were being skinned alive. TM stumps up and we turn the corner. There's lots to disagree with on with his approach to some of our matches so on a purely footballing sense I concede he didn't always make the right calls. For me he stands out as a human being and the world is short of decent people. Circumstances present themselves, you make a call, you live by the outcome, it is what it is. As long as you have standards that's all that matters to me. What would life have be like as a Rovers supporter if say we had had a Joey Barton or a Sam Morsy in charge, both equal footballing talents to TM. Perhaps they would have achieved more but it would have been without me on board.

Yep. Think they should split the difference between Gueye and Ohashi and get a quick striker that can run in behind.