Batth will be a colossal miss. Hyam is useless without someone extremely steady alongside him. Not too bothered about Weimann but of course if we lose him and Dolan then that's 14 goals missing from a forward line that was never exactly prolific in the first place. Grim times.

Perhaps he means he's a machine.

I'm not convinced the reduction to 50 per cent has been implemented by the Court. It's my belief this was proposed by the judge and he sent both parties legal representatives away to discuss with their instructing parties with a view to considering this a few days later. The subsequent hearing never happened and is still awaited.

What Southgate achieved given he didnt really had any proven world class players except Kane and Walker is really impressive... Others like Saka, Bellingham, Stirling, Foden etc are all good at various times but have not stepped up to look really top level. Most of his teams had many very modest players like Pickford, Rose, Lingard, Alli, Henderson, Delph. He did it by having a clear strategy and plan, and luck in the draw. Rarely pretty but got us far in four successive tournaments. Southgate is undoubtedly the second best ever england manager. We are starting to look really confused again, not really sure what Tuchal is aiming for. Very hard to look at english players now and see who the definitive players to build the team around are, and what system will get the best out of them. We are as always suffering from the "English disease" of too many similar attacking players who fail to work together which has plagued us for decades. I would say though Wharton looks like exactly what we need. He is the sort of player who improves everyone around him and is decidedly different from the standard box to box engine rooms we tend to play in midfield. Surely cant be long till he gets a crack?

Just what am I guessing? iMO, Rovers p1ss about with negotiations and show little nous or imagination. With Batth, he's had an outstanding season, been a huge influence on the team and played almost 40 games. He's still only 34 (Kevin Moran played in the PL with us till he was 38 and Tony Gale won a PL medal with us at the age of 35/36 - both centre backs). For me, starting point should have been a substantial increase in basic given he joined on relatively low wages, a heavily linked appearance based bonus and a 2nd year option. Think there's a very good chance he would have snapped that up if put on the table early doors. Not as precious about Weimann but a similar type of deal to Batth's without the 2nd year option . IMO, there is neither nous nor gravitas at Ewood Park, just a clueless, amateurish shamble Do you do anything other than parrotting the club line!?

1 Year for Batth, with the option of an extra year. Be crazy if we haven't thought about or even done that. So, I suspect we haven't.

Did he say that actually? Not sure he did. Not my mate, never met the guy ever. So If Derby have offered Batth a 2 years contract, why 3 days later no deal sign or even rumours terms have been agreed. Plus they been linked with Dion Sanderson and Paudie O'connor also

Him and Samba were our best ever defensive pairing for me... Watching since 1992. My best team from that tome till now : Shearer. Bellamy Duff. Tugay. Sherwood. Ripley. Le Saux Nelsen. Samba. Berg. Friedel Seems strange to have so few players from the prem winning season but Id put it down to the general quality of the league improving so much from the 1990s to the 2000s. More players played under souness/hughes (7) than Kenny (5). Adds up to 12 as Berg played in both periods.

We defended better with Batth in the set up. 2 year deal is a must. Weimann on the other hand would be a gamble. Might not be the same player after latest surgery. Another setback and that’s a wasted squad spot and wages

I don't think they put that much effort in

Nelsen, Samba and Big Brad for a combined £450,000 is bonkers

According to your mate Nixon they were willing to meet that criteria. Sounds like Rovers have offered good money but only 1 year which again is a bit stupid considering he wants to stay here. His dilemma might be more money here for another year or less at Derby but a 2 year deal. If our lot can't find some middle ground to keep last seasons best defender they've weakened the team again before even losing anyone else. He is a priority signing not an afterthought just because he's 34.

I have to agree that whilst our approach always seems to lack long term planning I think 1 year is right for the likes of Batth and Weimann, sure the former would be a big loss but at the same time a guaranteed 2 year deal could be foolhardy. One year plus and option with some incentives for him would be where I’d pitch it. Weimann has been good but I wouldn’t be held to ransom there

An immediate enigma? He may well be an immediate enigma but that wouldnt be good.

Getting increasingly worried about this summer. Feels like the club are feeding info that they have ambition (see French CB) that we were never ever signing. Optimism around Batth signing a new contract (not happening) Travis and Tronstad linked away. 7 signings + leavers needed. So currently with Andi Weiman and Batth leaving that's 9 signings needed, that are able to make an immediate impact? This Belgian won't be an immediate enigma. So still require 9 signings of real quality. We are on our way to relegation at this point.

We seem to be looking further afield for players which is fine but you need a proven group of Championship ready players to guide them. You look at our core of best, proven Championship players. Brittain, Travis, Tronstad and Hyam all have a year left and are at risk of sale. Batth and Dolan are off.

Have Derby offer 2 year contract? Wouldn't he already be sign there if that's was the case

Batth is worth 2 years for me. I think he has proven he can play in at least 30 championship games this coming season. 26-27, even if he doesn't play as often i imagine he would be invaluable to have around the club and lads, considering every other bit of experience seems to getting pushed out of the club. Weimann with his injury, I can understand the one year offer. I bet we have lowballed him on wages though.

Amen.

Why would Derby and a manager as good as Eustace offer him 2 ? This club has a self inflicted no more than a year for over 30's policy and it's just another in a long line of stupid policies. Like letting academy grads leave for nothing because they won't pay them a championship wage despite the number of appearances for instance.

Look at Ismael's comments on the player. Why would we offer them more than 1 year deal given their age? Batth is 35 years old in September

Not sure it's that strange in a meaningless international friendly, all about giving people minutes, maybe they just wanted to give all 3 keepers a bit of game time.

Tbh you’re just guessing here using your anger to form an opinion. Batth is very likely to want 2 years to gurantee/see out his career and for all the badness/madness this club has put us through I do agree with their stance on this given his age and previous injury record

It hasn't worked for the two years prior to last season, so it's fanciful to think it works to any degree next season. ?

Sell him, make £1m profit, restore Pears as No.1, promote the recently new contracted Jack Barrett to No.2. Sorted (in Suhail's world)