robbo_rovers Posted March 1, 2010 Posted March 1, 2010 I don't think he's actually bad at all. Maybe it's been hard adjusting since Friedel left. After all Brad was probably and possibly still is the most consistant 'keeper in the league.
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magicalmortensleftpeg Posted March 1, 2010 Posted March 1, 2010 He's a very good keeper. Sadly we've been spoilt with Friedel and now a sizeable minority of fans believe that Robinson should be superman between the sticks. He's not Given or Brad but that doesnt make him a bad keeper. Those people who say that Robbo wasnt a decent replacement for Friedel should dig into their pockets for a spare £10m plus if they think that those sort of keepers grow on trees. Robbo is a 7/10 keeper in a 5/10 team.
DeadlyDirk Posted March 1, 2010 Posted March 1, 2010 Decision making/concentration has always been Robbo's flaw, this was just another example of it. I almost don't think of it as a mistake, just a limitation of his ability. These things happen, unfortunately we were punished with a goal as teams often are with a mistake in the penalty box at this level. He's been consistently decent for us since he joined in my opinion, the odd mistake and bad performance but I think the good has outweighed the bad. He's not as good as Friedel but nor are 99% of goalkeepers. Friedel would make a top 5 list of all time premiership goalkeepers in my opinion, especially if you take into account for how long he was at the top of his game for, and still is for that matter. Robbo is as good as any of the English keepers at the moment and in my opinion deserves a place in the squad and at least should have been given a chance by Capello to show what he can do by now. Unfortunately that also tells you a lot about the standard of English goalkeepers, decent but nothing special. It worries me more every day to be honest, this might not be the place for it but I think it could be what costs us in South Africa.
Presty On Tour Posted March 1, 2010 Posted March 1, 2010 Robbo should of done this before Maxi could cross the ball for the Torres goal!
Jonnolad Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Robbo is as good as any of the English keepers at the moment and in my opinion deserves a place in the squad and at least should have been given a chance by Capello to show what he can do by now. Unfortunately that also tells you a lot about the standard of English goalkeepers, decent but nothing special. It worries me more every day to be honest, this might not be the place for it but I think it could be what costs us in South Africa. You're absolutely right that the goalie is our weak position for the world cup. The doubly sad fact is that Robinson isn't even the best of this bad bunch. I'll even make a prediction that, failing major injuries, Robinson won't play any part at all in the world cup - he just isn't good enough. Robinson is very average - he's OK at shot stopping, but some of his other play is cringingly bad at times. I doubt very much that anyone else would want to buy him over the summer. For me he's definitely in the bottom 5 keepers in the Prem. Sad but true.
Amo Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 He's a very good keeper. Sadly we've been spoilt with Friedel and now a sizeable minority of fans believe that Robinson should be superman between the sticks. He's not Given or Brad but that doesnt make him a bad keeper. What does that even mean? We replaced a solid goalkeeper with an average one who's leaked soft goals throughout the season and we're supposed to be happy with that? John Filan was more dependable than Robinson and he was a cheap reserve goalie.
Jonnolad Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 What does that even mean? We replaced a solid goalkeeper with an average one who's leaked soft goals throughout the season and we're supposed to be happy with that? John Filan was more dependable than Robinson and he was a cheap reserve goalie. Absolutely 100% agree with that. Teams who want to seriously compete for a European place need a decent keeper, especially if, like us, there are deficiencies in the rest of the team. Robinson simply isn't a decent keeper. Harsh but true.
T4E Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Sam Allardyce seems to rate him. How do you explain that Jonno?
Hughesy Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Absolutely 100% agree with that. Teams who want to seriously compete for a European place need a decent keeper, especially if, like us, there are deficiencies in the rest of the team. Robinson simply isn't a decent keeper. Harsh but true. Keef's brother thinks Robbo isnt even decent How ironic!
sam_rovers Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 I think some ppl are blinded by the fact that Robbos English - If he was foreign ppl would be calling for him to be sold or dropped like Andrews - robbo has cost us a ton of points this season - I feel we would be 9 points better off if we still had a decent goalie! Hopefully, we're looking at goal keeping options in summer
Majiball Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Paul Robinson is more than up to the job. Following Brad is no mean feat, and this for me is the main reason he gets so much criticism. We're lucky to have gotten him and for such a cheap price we wouldn't have gotten better. One error and your all on his back, as always ignoring the errors that lead to the incident in the first place.
Seggie Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Personally, as a keeper myself, I think Robbo is decent at what he does. He makes some decent saves and in my opinion at England level he is the best of an average bunch. They all seem to make howlers, they all pull off quality saves at times, its sadly the life of a keeper. I remember Tim Flowers once said 'Goalkeeping is about limiting your mistakes' which to some extent is true as nobody seems to remember the great saves just the clangers. I like Robbo he seems the sort of player you want in your dressing room, he appreciates the fans, seems genuinely happy when we win or score. I think also as he is in keeper terms a youngster still maybe we should be a little more supportive of him after all he still does a lot of things right and maybe in 3 or 4 years time we could have a class act on our hands.
jim mk2 Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 . Robinson simply isn't a decent keeper. Harsh but true. Wrong. Robinson is a very good but not outstanding goalkeeper. The opta stats prove it. And, funnily enough, Allardyce seems to rate him because he picks him. Congrats to your grandpa/dad/brother/uncle/cousin etc on his goal for Brazil tonight.
Exiled_Rover Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Personally, as a keeper myself, I think Robbo is decent at what he does. He makes some decent saves and in my opinion at England level he is the best of an average bunch. They all seem to make howlers, they all pull off quality saves at times, its sadly the life of a keeper. I remember Tim Flowers once said 'Goalkeeping is about limiting your mistakes' which to some extent is true as nobody seems to remember the great saves just the clangers. I like Robbo he seems the sort of player you want in your dressing room, he appreciates the fans, seems genuinely happy when we win or score. I think also as he is in keeper terms a youngster still maybe we should be a little more supportive of him after all he still does a lot of things right and maybe in 3 or 4 years time we could have a class act on our hands. Take it you don't feel the need to command your box as a keeper then? It's criminal how bad Robinson is at claiming crosses - every team struggling to break us down (which with our midfield isn't many admittedly) should just land balls in the 6 yard box. Robinson doesn't deal with them at all - he's rooted to his line. As for the mistake at the weekend, well if we had a backup worth his salt he'd be dropped for it. He went for the Samba deflection then just stopped - I don't mind if a keeper makes an error as long as they're committed to it. It's when they're stood there like a statue in no mans land after dithering that irritates me.
Seggie Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I havn't seen the mistake at the weekend so unfortunatly can't comment, although I believe it was a collection of errors from other players as well as Robbo. As for claiming crosses, I never felt this was one of Friedels strong points. (admittedly he was a lot better) Command of the box is a confidence thing, the more you do it the more comfortable you are with it. Thinking about it his current goalkeeping coach wasn't overly the best at this either, maybe perhaps the problem isn't in the player its in the coach, afterall its a different goalkeeping coach as well from the Friedel era. One thing I do agree on is the lack of appropiate backup, perhaps when Mark Bunn returns he will provide the competition needed and push Robbo to improve or even if necessary take his place in the team. I am sure when they signed Bunn this was the medium to long term strategy anyway.
BRFC95 Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Take it you don't feel the need to command your box as a keeper then? It's criminal how bad Robinson is at claiming crosses No PL keeper commands his box the way keepers did in the past. Even with all the protection afforded them by the referees they are all still pants. Robinson and crosses. I actually think he deals with them better than Brad did. Now he is a keeper who is glued to the goal line.
tcj_jones Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 That video is absolutely mental! Is that Lehmann? I bet it is. Absolute nutter!
den Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Robinson and crosses. I actually think he deals with them better than Brad did. Now he is a keeper who is glued to the goal line. Good grief!
Amo Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Hopefully Bunn will return next season and stake a claim for the jersey, or we'll pick up another keeper on the cheap. I don't think Sam will be in any rush to replace Robinson, particularly when his 80 yard clearances win him brownie points.
Jonnolad Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Sam Allardyce seems to rate him. How do you explain that Jonno? It means the alternatives are even worse. It ain't rocket science I think you are also missing a major point which is our entire team is pretty average.
T4E Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 It means the alternatives are even worse. It ain't rocket science I think you are also missing a major point which is our entire team is pretty average. Stick this post on the Andrews thread and you've hit the nail on the head.
BigJackWalker Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Robbo is a great keeper and people who D@ck on him are just looking for a scapegoat for our dodgy defending away from home stop picking faults in him and get behind him you faggs hes a confidence player the more he feels supported the better her plays
Guest andrewpickup Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 currently on pleb tv being very dignified about 3 worse goalies than him
Exiled_Rover Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice move by his agent getting him that gig.
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