wilsdenrover Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Two reasons it will be a pile of shit… There are no interviewers with the ability to ask any real questions - it will be a load of nonsense like ‘I guess you’re disappointed to be subbed?’ Player media training means any answer given will be what they’ve been told to say not what they really think. Because of this, every interview will end up also most identical in its content. In the meantime, instead of witnessing this, we could have been (outrageous thought I know) been continuing to watch the match. 4 Quote
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arbitro Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Standard practice in America sports and the PL is appealing more to the fans over there and don't forget that NBC Sports in America covers PL over there. NBC's owners Comcast owned Sky aswell He need a good experience staff around him and a number 2 who is align with him. So you are happy to be pandering to an overseas audience by using a gimmick to reach out to them? For me it's just razzmatazz and has no place in our game. 5 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, arbitro said: So you are happy to be pandering to an overseas audience by using a gimmick to reach out to them? For me it's just razzmatazz and has no place in our game. It's happens whether F1 or Cricket(sometimes) or NBA now, why not see if it can work in football as it does in those sports. They are speaking to players who have come off not head coaches during a game like the NBA does.. I don't see it pandering but more interact with the audience whether here or overseas Quote
Parsonblue Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago For me, football sold its soul when clubs broke away from the Football League to form the Premier League. With each passing year the game seems to move further and further away from the game I was brought up watching 60 odd years ago. Smaller clubs are penalised for breaking rules whilst the likes of City are charged but never really brought to book - look at what they've spent this summer whilst supposedly in breach of financial regulations. The financial gap between the Premier League and the rest of the Football League is now so huge that very few clubs, even if they get promoted, are able to survive for more than a season. Of course, those clubs then come down with huge amounts of money and are at an immediate advantage over the rest of the Championship. Sky tried - and failed - to make to closing weeks of last season sound thrilling. We knew who'd won the League and the three relegated clubs long before we got to that stage. The so called 'excitement' revolved around who finished fifth! The fact that Tottenham Hotspur, who finished just above the relegation zone, qualified for the 'Champions' League says it all. The game as many of us knew it is long gone. Perhaps it's fitting that Sky continues to turn it into more of a circus than it already is. 7 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) Football has fans not audiences (or it used to anyway). Edited 15 hours ago by wilsdenrover 2 Quote
arbitro Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: It's happens whether F1 or Cricket(sometimes) or NBA now, why not see if it can work in football as it does in those sports. They are speaking to players who have come off not head coaches during a game like the NBA does.. I don't see it pandering but more interact with the audience whether here or overseas Of course it's pandering. I honestly don't care whether or not it is used in other sports so that to me is irrelevant. It doesn't matter who they are speaking to it's the traditions and values which should be protected. You intensely dislike VAR but you are happy to accept something like this. It adds absolutely no value to the game. 2 Quote
Forever Blue Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 21 hours ago, davulsukur said: Andrews has been confirmed as the new head coach at Brentford https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4lj9gv7lno He’s got a point to prove 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, arbitro said: Of course it's pandering. I honestly don't care whether or not it is used in other sports so that to me is irrelevant. It doesn't matter who they are speaking to it's the traditions and values which should be protected. You intensely dislike VAR but you are happy to accept something like this. It adds absolutely no value to the game. How about letting the game develop and grow? Making fans feel closer to the players and game? I dont like VAR for plenty of reasons including slower of decisions, get them wrong, no communication to fans within Stadium and TV audiences. This doesn't slow the game down does it? Quote
roversfan99 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Interviewing players after being subbed and footage inside the dressing room. How is that allowing the game to develop and grow? I dont get why anyone would want that, who gives a shit what a player thinks after being subbed? And why would anyone want to see inside the changing room? At least VAR has a clear reason, to make decisions more accurate, which it objectively does. 5 Quote
arbitro Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: How about letting the game develop and grow? Making fans feel closer to the players and game? I dont like VAR for plenty of reasons including slower of decisions, get them wrong, no communication to fans within Stadium and TV audiences. This doesn't slow the game down does it? How on earth will it develop and grow the game? If might well a few more Sky subscriptions in Philadelphia but it adds absolutely nothing to the game. I want to watch a game of football not feel closer to the players. It achieves nothing in my view. VAR gets a lot right too but I agree with your wider point. 1 Quote
Upside Down Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 17 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Standard practice in America sports and the PL is appealing more to the fans over there and don't forget that NBC Sports in America covers PL over there. NBC's owners Comcast owned Sky aswell He need a good experience staff around him and a number 2 who is align with him. That still doesn't change the fact that it's a load of shit. American sports are a complete pile of wank and their coverage of them is even worse. Won't be long until we get the five minutes multiball. Quote
GHR Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago As a general rule of thumb, and not just for sport, I find it best to look at whatever pleases Americans and head firmly in the opposite direction. 5 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Interviewing players after being subbed and footage inside the dressing room. How is that allowing the game to develop and grow? I dont get why anyone would want that, who gives a shit what a player thinks after being subbed? And why would anyone want to see inside the changing room? At least VAR has a clear reason, to make decisions more accurate, which it objectively does. Get more people interesting and closer to football action. What is wrong with seeing if it is going to popular or not. Works in other sports so why not football? what's wrong with footage inside the dressing room? Its all about what you want and not seeing from other people who want this. It is common place in NBA to interview players and head coaches during games VAR is a pile of shit. takes too long, fans in stadium left in the dark, refs on the pitch are frighten to make decisions, but we fetch in VAR despite all these concerns but you are in favour of it. But complaining about a minor change to coverage 4 hours ago, arbitro said: How on earth will it develop and grow the game? If might well a few more Sky subscriptions in Philadelphia but it adds absolutely nothing to the game. I want to watch a game of football not feel closer to the players. It achieves nothing in my view. VAR gets a lot right too but I agree with your wider point. See above to your question This is minor change whilst VAR was game changing decision by the football authorities which has made the time delay to the games, zero communication to fans within Stadium and even fans at home, etc. That has changed the game forever, an interview with player coming off or footage inside the dressing room isn't anything like VAR change has been. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Why would anyone want to see inside the dressing room? Sky will broadcast players taking a shit soon enough. VAR at least has a purpose. Decisions are more accurate now. Quote
GHR Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Why does football need such drives to increase its popularity? Its financial value is higher than most country's GDP and it is most probably singlehandedly the most popular recreational interest on the planet. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted 6 hours ago Backroom Posted 6 hours ago Football has always been a primary driver of Sky subscriptions - and with those subscriptions falling, I suppose they are trying to come up with increasingly desperate gimmicks to try and boost numbers. I think I read PL viewing figures were down 10% last season. That will largely be due to the fact the title race and relegation spots were basically done and dusted by February, but nonetheless, Sky can't control that. They can just try these little gimmicks to try and make otherwise mundane games more interesting. It won't work, but I'd assume they're just throwing crap at the wall at this point to see if anything sticks. When Sky first brought PL coverage in they had American traditions like cheerleaders (the head-to-head team logo clash graphic was also ripped off from US American Football coverage). They ditched it all very quickly because the UK public weren't partial to any of that nonsense and it was a waste of time and money. I imagine this will go the same way. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 12 minutes ago, DE. said: Football has always been a primary driver of Sky subscriptions - and with those subscriptions falling, I suppose they are trying to come up with increasingly desperate gimmicks to try and boost numbers. I think I read PL viewing figures were down 10% last season. That will largely be due to the fact the title race and relegation spots were basically done and dusted by February, but nonetheless, Sky can't control that. They can just try these little gimmicks to try and make otherwise mundane games more interesting. It won't work, but I'd assume they're just throwing crap at the wall at this point to see if anything sticks. When Sky first brought PL coverage in they had American traditions like cheerleaders (the head-to-head team logo clash graphic was also ripped off from US American Football coverage). They ditched it all very quickly because the UK public weren't partial to any of that nonsense and it was a waste of time and money. I imagine this will go the same way. I think its the PL driving these changes and trying to mirror the NBA and NFL sports where this sort of behind of the scenes is all part of this. This is just restrictions to just Sky Games but all games. In Overseas countries they get all games not just the 4/5 games on Tv like we do. Premier League introduce raft of controversial US-style changes including half-time interviews Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: Why would anyone want to see inside the dressing room? Sky will broadcast players taking a shit soon enough. VAR at least has a purpose. Decisions are more accurate now. I would suggest you actually look who wants to bring in these things and its from the PL from what I read about it. Yes the great VAR that takes 5 minutes to make a decisions keeping all fans within the stadium in the dark. Wasn't in favour of it in the first place and still ain't Quote
roversfan99 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Still nonethewiser as to what watching the players in the dressing rooms or post substitute interviews add or why a single person would have any interest in either, but there you go. 1 Quote
rigger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 25 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Still nonethewiser as to what watching the players in the dressing rooms or post substitute interviews add or why a single person would have any interest in either, but there you go. It gives a job to the interviewee. Quote
GHD Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: How about letting the game develop and grow? Making fans feel closer to the players and game? Feeling closer to the players??? Fans have never been further away from players than they are now 4 Quote
GHR Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Franchised clubs and closed leagues (i.e. no promotion or relegation) are also popular in American sport. I wonder if those such things were proposed over here, would they get the same positive reception from some quarters on the basis of broadening the game's appeal and appealing to overseas audiences...? 1 Quote
Upside Down Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, GHR said: Franchised clubs and closed leagues (i.e. no promotion or relegation) are also popular in American sport. I wonder if those such things were proposed over here, would they get the same positive reception from some quarters on the basis of broadening the game's appeal and appealing to overseas audiences...? One person would be in favour of it. Quote
47er Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago 21 minutes ago, Upside Down said: One person would be in favour of it. And everybody in Burnley. Quote
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