Venky’s (& Suhail) Out Protest Ideas

[Waggy76]

1 hour ago, StHelensRover said:

If that attendance figure is correct, that means with approx 300 fulham fans, there was 5300 home fans, when we have c.8000 ST holders. So that means basically no walk-ons and 33% of ST Holders staying away. That's death row stuff for our club if that attendance fig is accurate.

I was on and I can believe that figure !

[aletheia]

Is Pasha back in town?

[Mike Graham]

2 hours ago, TheRoversGRL said:

What we going to do about it?
 

Are we going to sit back and let these chicken farmers win!

What exactly are the Coalition doing please?  
All I have seen is 2 statements in 5 months and I see the Trust also produced a survey in early October and have yet to release the findings.  There is rumour of a 135/15 sticker and a leaflet; are these available yet?

Fans rightly point the finger at the club for failing to feed back from every single survey they undertake. 

[Ghost7]

On the manager, sadly nothing will change until Venky's and Pasha are out. 

They've treated the fans with contempt for 15 years and it feels like they're on the brink of causing more damage than ever before by being completely awol (as usual) during a crisis, off the pitch, on the pitch, beneath the pitch and in the stands.

Nearly everyone I speak to, including myself does not want to attend games and the reality is the board couldn't care less, and the owners probably aren't even aware. I'm sick of seeing in person what they've done to this club.

I've no doubt "the board's" day to day at the moment is largely made up of making sure word doesn't get out about the horrific job they're doing. There are people in roles they shouldn't be anywhere near.

You can argue we need to go down, perhaps multiple times to start over so Rudy Gestede is doing a great job with that. 👏

There's the occasional smart-arse out there that pretends the owners have their use, "who else would put in what they do", "we're a small town". The fact of the matter is no matter how smart you think you are and no matter how small you think the town is, there are around 7,000 fans missing, as a direct result of disengaged ownership whether or not it has been funded, and around a further 4,000 missing that would return if the club became a success again – Venky's ownership gives no hope of that, absolutely none, and that's a lot of missed revenue as a result of their performance.

[J*B]

1 hour ago, Mike Graham said:

What exactly are the Coalition doing please?  
All I have seen is 2 statements in 5 months and I see the Trust also produced a survey in early October and have yet to release the findings.  There is rumour of a 135/15 sticker and a leaflet; are these available yet?

Fans rightly point the finger at the club for failing to feed back from every single survey they undertake. 

And there’s the in-house fighting that always lets us down. It’s no wonder they get away with owning us, we spend more time bickering between each other.

For what it’s worth I agree. The coalition has gone very quiet. I would imagine mostly because Glen has taken on a role with the trust and nobody else can lead it. I too completed the Trust’s survey and have seen nothing since. 

But let’s not forget history. Whilst you where Chair of the Trust - an unenviable role, for the record - the Trust spent years being the “critical friend” to no avail, attempted to get to the Owners through Waggott which plenty said in advance was a waste of time and set up an agreement which the club which they totally ignore. Glass houses and all that. 

[TheRoversGRL]

47 minutes ago, J*B said:

And there’s the in-house fighting that always lets us down. It’s no wonder they get away with owning us, we spend more time bickering between each other.

For what it’s worth I agree. The coalition has gone very quiet. I would imagine mostly because Glen has taken on a role with the trust and nobody else can lead it. I too completed the Trust’s survey and have seen nothing since. 

But let’s not forget history. Whilst you where Chair of the Trust - an unenviable role, for the record - the Trust spent years being the “critical friend” to no avail, attempted to get to the Owners through Waggott which plenty said in advance was a waste of time and set up an agreement which the club which they totally ignore. Glass houses and all that. 

The coalition is around and people are working together. There are some options on the table in terms of the next course of action and we will communicate our next steps very soon. 

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4 hours ago, TheRoversGRL said:

The coalition is around and people are working together. There are some options on the table in terms of the next course of action and we will communicate our next steps very soon. 

I think people are looking for direction rather than reading a statement and saying "yes I agree"

[bobbybrfc]

For what it is worth, the next step surely has to be calling for Rovers supporters en masse to not attend a specific home league match. However, the call to do that cannot be undermined by the team then suddenly putting two wins together just before the chosen fixture. As such, might be worth hanging on until later in the season to make the call (on the assumption the picture has gotten bleaker and you don't march the troops to the top of the hill for nothing). 

I'm 38 years old. 14 year old me would be so upset writing the above! I'm clinging to the hope that the "end of days" feel about the current regime at Rovers is something genuine. 

We need to hang in there. One day, "They" will be gone, we will be able to "think big" again and the rebuild can begin. 

[KidderStreetNoise]

8 hours ago, J*B said:

And there’s the in-house fighting that always lets us down. It’s no wonder they get away with owning us, we spend more time bickering between each other.

For what it’s worth I agree. The coalition has gone very quiet. I would imagine mostly because Glen has taken on a role with the trust and nobody else can lead it. I too completed the Trust’s survey and have seen nothing since. 

But let’s not forget history. Whilst you where Chair of the Trust - an unenviable role, for the record - the Trust spent years being the “critical friend” to no avail, attempted to get to the Owners through Waggott which plenty said in advance was a waste of time and set up an agreement which the club which they totally ignore. Glass houses and all that. 

Who would have thought the trust getting involved would have stopped the momentum of a group that achieved more in 10 minutes than the trust achieved in 10 years

[TheRoversGRL]

3 hours ago, ... said:

I think people are looking for direction rather than reading a statement and saying "yes I agree"

Of course and I appreciate that. If there was more direction in terms of a boycott, do you think supporters would take part?

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

I dont think we've bottomed out yet but I don't think we're far off. We're only heading one way and that's in to League One, whether that be next season or within the next few seasons.

We won't bounce back this time either, as we wont have the best squad in the league. Would a few seasons in League One force Venkys hand? I cant see why it would. 

Its all thoroughly depressing and I can totally see why thousands have binned this nonsense off

[chaddyrovers]

22 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said:

Of course and I appreciate that. If there was more direction in terms of a boycott, do you think supporters would take part?

Boycott? Its been happening for years. Fans have been walking away in the thousands. We lost over 15k from the take over to now. All that is left is the hard core fans who are STH. 

Fans walking away hasnt had an impact on the owners and all that has happened is more cuts and cutbacks in finances. 

You can’t expect Fans who attend every league home game to boycott games. 

[AllRoversGirl_]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Boycott? Its been happening for years. Fans have been walking away in the thousands. We lost over 15k from the take over to now. All that is left is the hard core fans who are STH. 

Fans walking away hasnt had an impact on the owners and all that has happened is more cuts and cutbacks in finances. 

You can’t expect Fans who attend every league home game to boycott games. 

The coalition can’t win either way. 

[Mattyblue]

The protests are happening right now. We are a Championship club with 5,000 in the ground for league games.

Even if 500 home fans turned up the announced figure would still be ‘10,000’ due to STs sold. The Coalition, whoever needs to be emphasising that the protest/boycott is well underway organically and stop worrying about ‘organised’ ones.

[davulsukur]

43 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said:

Of course and I appreciate that. If there was more direction in terms of a boycott, do you think supporters would take part?

There is already an organic boycott going on. If we're only getting 5000 in the ground, you'd like to think it wouldn't take too much more to get a good number of those to boycott one game.

[cesus]

6 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

The protests are happening right now. We are a Championship club with 5,000 in the ground for league games.

Even if 500 home fans turned up the announced figure would still be ‘10,000’ due to STs sold. The Coalition, whoever needs to be emphasising that the protest/boycott is well underway organically and stop worrying about ‘organised’ ones.

100% this, I would put my neck out to say every other game in our league on Tuesday night had at least three times the amount of bodies in the ground as what we did. 

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47 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said:

Of course and I appreciate that. If there was more direction in terms of a boycott, do you think supporters would take part?

Yes. 

[chaddyrovers]

14 minutes ago, AllRoversGirl_ said:

The coalition can’t win either way. 

Can't win? 

What does that mean?

People have walked away from their club over the last 15 years. Some haven't come back since, some have moved on, support other teams or follow other sports. Some just won't ever come back. Some of those included people I know or used to go with. 

Are you even engaging with the club? What has been the outcome of those engagements? 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[Mattyblue]

The days of ‘engaging’ with this regime are over. Mike Graham’s led WATR was the last of many to try, and fail. 

It’s done, they aren’t interested. So ‘sell up’, is the only message I want to see from any group.

[J*B]

51 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said:

Of course and I appreciate that. If there was more direction in terms of a boycott, do you think supporters would take part?

No. A few hundred, at maximum. There’s already 10,000-15,000 fans missing, that is the boycott. A boycott protest now will be spun as a few hundred and evidence most fans back the manager/board. 

[J*B]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Can't win? 

What does that mean?

People have walked away from their club over the last 15 years. Some haven't come back since, some have moved on, support other teams or follow other sports. Some just won't ever come back. Some of those included people I know or used to go with. 

Are you even engaging with the club? What has been the outcome of those engagements? 

 

Engaging with the club should have been panned as a plan 10 years ago. It’s a completely pointless exercise. 

[Mattyblue]

Just now, J*B said:

No. A few hundred, at maximum. There’s already 10,000-15,000 fans missing, that is the boycott. A boycott protest now will be spun as a few hundred and evidence most fans back the manager/board. 

Exactly that. Do not pursue an ‘official’ boycott as they’ll just spin it. Instead get out there with the real figures from Tuesday and pics and let them speak for themselves.

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, J*B said:

Engaging with the club should have been panned as a plan 10 years ago. It’s a completely pointless exercise. 

Fair enough so what happens now? 

8 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Exactly that. Do not pursue an ‘official’ boycott as they’ll just spin it. Instead get out there with the real figures from Tuesday and pics and let them speak for themselves.

Speak for themselves to who? 

What difference is it going to make? 

[J*B]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Fair enough so what happens now? 

 

 

Well they didn’t like us targeting Suhail and Gestede and banning them from the stadium. So start there. 

[Mattyblue]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Fair enough so what happens now? 

Speak for themselves to who? 

What difference is it going to make? 

I think it very much needs publicising to the wider game that actual crowds have collapsed this season, why don’t you?