TheRoversGRL Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just now, TheRoversGRL said: We’re not 100% sure. The police and council were involved As you can appreciate. It’s not fair for 1 person to take that responsibility especially with the uncertainty of any costs involved Quote
roversfan99 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Its incredible how picky chaddy is with whether to interrogate people for the source of information. Suhail has gone for big talks, wheres that from. Whereas if Portsmouth commentators say that Cantwell is in contract talks, yeah ill take that as true. 2 Quote
TheRoversGRL Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 4 minutes ago, KidderStreetNoise said: Members of the coalition did push for an estimated £5k protest I’m referring to something that happened after you left. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 7 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said: Traffic management plan by the council and a member of the coalition was told they would be responsible for any costs if a protest went ahead and issues arose. That seems unlikely and sounds like a fairly obvious attempt to fob you off. Do they charge the organisers or quibble whenever there's a March for Gaza for example which they seem only to happy to accomodate on a regular basis? Genuine question as I dont know. 2 Quote
TheRoversGRL Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just now, RevidgeBlue said: That seems unlikely and sounds like a fairly obvious attempt to fob you off. Do they charge the organisers or quibble whenever there's a March for Gaza for example which they seem only to happy to accomodate on a regular basis? Genuine question as I dont know. Could have been, but again. If something did go ahead and a fan was left with a big bill. That’s something that no fan should be left with Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: like what? You're stonewalling here and refusing to answer a perfectly straightforward "yes or no" question. But Ill humour you. (For example) Participating in a Venky's out protest outside the ground? Participating in a complete boycott for one specific game? Not taking your seat until a specified minute and/or leaving early? Quote
lraC Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Granted some won't want to get behind this at either match, but what about the coalition trying this? Operation Probe (Preston Overflowing Bristol Empty) We call on all Rovers fans past and present to make a stand towards the Owners Venky’s by showing the impact they have had on the supporter base since their takeover in 2015. Since that fateful day, not only have they seen the team plummet from the top half of the Premier League and presided over a fall to a season in the third tier, but they have also seen the crowds plummet too, with a reported 5,500 approximately in attendance for the recent Championship fixture V Oxford United. On 20/02/26 Rovers entertain Local rivals Preston North End and we would like to target that game as operation fill the ground. We ask that as many supporters as possible attend this game and on 15 and 85 Minutes, rise as one to salute our Number one supporter Jack Walker with a loud and proud chorus of there’s only one Jack Walker. Following on from this, to show the owners and the wider football community, how these owners has decimated the fanbase, we then ask that as many as possible boycott the Bristol City Game, which is the following home fixture, a few days later. The contrast in attendances between these fixtures will highlight what the fan base think of their ownership and will hopefully give them food for thought, with regards to giving up the ghost and selling the club. The damage is now done, so we implore them to sell up and leave and these two matches will go along way towards showing them the strength of feeling, in the fan base. 3 Quote
Bethnal Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 24 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said: Would you have pushed for a protest ahead if it meant you personally would be looking at 2-3K bill. Not trying to cause an argument, but people did try. I pushed for the Trust to coordinate the fundraising for the action that was proposed for the Derby/150th game. That was to avoid any one, sole person being personally liable for action that wouldn’t have been illegal. You were in the same group chat, so you’ll remember the responses. Quote
Hasta Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) If we boycotted a home league game where nobody attended (for example under 1500 home fans) it would cause huge shock waves internally. If it was backed with a coalition statement saying there would further calls to hold off attending next year (and a hint about season ticket boycotts), you would see some movement I suspect. At the very least removing Pasha and putting in another puppet. Im a season ticket holden but our group would do that a in a heartbeat. Thats because I genuinely do think we need a change. Of course we don’t know for sure if it would work. However although there has been an organic boycott to reduce crowds to what levels we are now, to suddenly remove the majority of those supporters Venkys regard as “cash cows” (like me) would be huge. Other than an afternoons ‘entertainment’, what is there to lose? The problem is some people won’t miss even one game, I presume because they do not think there is any damage being done by the owners and the ‘board’. It’s the only reason they wouldn’t try it as a one off, and that’s where the problem lies. It took multiple missed payments to players before Sheff Weds fans got everyone aligned - and it’s highly unlikely we would hit that point. Edited 9 hours ago by Hasta 3 Quote
scotchrover Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, KidderStreetNoise said: Is 15 years unchallenged not enough of a win? No, but nor is encouraging everyone onto the playing surface and breaking the law. The lack of ticket sales are obviously hurting the finances of the club. Every other post on the club’s social media pages are about buying tickets or merchandise. Mods- is there a chance we can have a vote on the matter about the best course of action? It might give the coalition an idea of how to proceed with the next protest. 2 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Has anyone contacted protests groups from other clubs to ascertain whether they were held responsible for costs incurred and if so; what sums of money were involved how they went about raising this money Quote
scotchrover Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 6 minutes ago, lraC said: Granted some won't want to get behind this at either match, but what about the coalition trying this? Operation Probe (Preston Overflowing Bristol Empty) We call on all Rovers fans past and present to make a stand towards the Owners Venky’s by showing the impact they have had on the supporter base since their takeover in 2015. Since that fateful day, not only have they seen the team plummet from the top half of the Premier League and presided over a fall to a season in the third tier, but they have also seen the crowds plummet too, with a reported 5,500 approximately in attendance for the recent Championship fixture V Oxford United. On 20/02/26 Rovers entertain Local rivals Preston North End and we would like to target that game as operation fill the ground. We ask that as many supporters as possible attend this game and on 15 and 85 Minutes, rise as one to salute our Number one supporter Jack Walker with a loud and proud chorus of there’s only one Jack Walker. Following on from this, to show the owners and the wider football community, how these owners has decimated the fanbase, we then ask that as many as possible boycott the Bristol City Game, which is the following home fixture, a few days later. The contrast in attendances between these fixtures will highlight what the fan base think of their ownership and will hopefully give them food for thought, with regards to giving up the ghost and selling the club. The damage is now done, so we implore them to sell up and leave and these two matches will go along way towards showing them the strength of feeling, in the fan base. A good idea, but there are many people, like me, who refuse to step foot inside Ewood, until they’re gone. 1 Quote
KidderStreetNoise Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Has anyone contacted protests groups from other clubs to ascertain whether they were held responsible for costs incurred and if so; what sums of money were involved how they went about raising this money Sheffield Wednesday had a centralised trust that dealt with raising finances. We had no such setup 2 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 24 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said: Can someone explain how it’s fair to expect someone to take personal responsibility and costs? But surely there are ways to make visible, audible protest without incurring costs. It doesn’t have to be a protest march… Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, KidderStreetNoise said: Sheffield Wednesday had a centralised trust that dealt with raising finances. We had no such setup Do you know if this was 100% funded by fan donations or were there other things too (eg merchandising) Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 17 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: You're stonewalling here and refusing to answer a perfectly straightforward "yes or no" question. Stonewalling on what? 17 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: But Ill humour you. (For example) Participating in a Venky's out protest outside the ground? its been done before 17 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Participating in a complete boycott for one specific game? no 17 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Not taking your seat until a specified minute and/or leaving early? no. Been done before like the Wolves game Quote
KidderStreetNoise Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 11 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Do you know if this was 100% funded by fan donations or were there other things too (eg merchandising) Mostly fundraising, a lot of the merch they sold was visual aids to the protest 2 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Stonewalling on what? its been done before no no. Been done before like the Wolves game So that's a "no" to all 3 then. Can we summarise that by saying you're not prepared to engage in any form of protest? (If we can that's perfectly ok, it's not for everyone) Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Stonewalling on what? Lol. Message board Gold. 5 Quote
JamieUK Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago WATR has a small number of people in the coalition chat, the same as several other groups, but it’s not accurate to suggest that the trust has been driving decisions or stifling action. No single group has been in control of what the coalition does or doesn’t do. As I understand, things understandably went quieter after legal threats were made towards one of the main individuals fronting the coalition. Given the seriousness of that situation, it’s only natural that they would take a step back. Unfortunately, rather than others stepping forward to take on that role, a number of people chose to leave instead. Alongside that, there were concerns around potential policing costs, personal liability and information being leaked from within the group, all of which made people more cautious about being visible or outspoken. There were discussions about doing something around the Derby game, but coming off wins against Southampton, Leicester and Bristol City, there were genuine concerns about turnout and how effective any action would be at that point. Posts that focus on blaming other supporter groups don’t really help and just play into the clubs hands. If anyone wants to see action happen, the most positive way forward is getting involved and helping to organise it. It’s easy to say more should have been done, but it’s much harder to commit the time and responsibility needed to make something happen. 1 Quote
TugaysMarlboro Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago From what i'm reading - any progress made previously over the back end of last season, has now regressed and we are where we were prior to Glen raising his head above the parapet (again). Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago seems to me that the boycott of home games has already began and will continue this saturday,especially when as game is on the telly 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 24 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: So that's a "no" to all 3 then. Can we summarise that by saying you're not prepared to engage in any form of protest? (If we can that's perfectly ok, it's not for everyone) the main protest over the years is don't attend which has been the main protest by fans not attending games, etc We are seeing some fans not attending night games as they normally would but choosing to watch at home Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: the main protest over the years is don't attend which has been the main protest by fans not attending games, etc We are seeing some fans not attending night games as they normally would but choosing to watch at home Not what I asked at all but never mind. Lol. Also I think someone could be relatively unconcerned about the owners or our overall plight but still use the red button for midweek night matches in winter, that's an entirely separate issue. Edited 8 hours ago by RevidgeBlue Quote
StHelensRover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 hours ago, Penwortham Blue said: I am ST holder for over 40 years, I still attend but struggle to enjoy it and more and more it is out of duty and feels like a chore. Pre-season, I was praying for a coordinated approach on ST renewals and if the call had come, I would have observed a boycott This is my position, ST holder every year since 1998, very reluctant to give up going no matter what. However, if there was specific games organised as a boycott I would bite the bullet and join in. Or if I thought not renewing and staying away for a couple of games as part of a mass co-ordinated effort to do the same would get rid of the owners, I'd join in with that too. The Blackpool boycott took a while but eventually forced their owners out, the Sheff Weds one worked almost immediately. Two different owners and sets of circumstances with those clubs. Maybe one very significant and humiliating boycott for the club (e.g. the Sheff Weds game) would be enough to show that it isn't a minority of fans who are angry and the degree to which we're angry. 3 Quote
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