Venky’s (& Suhail) Out Protest Ideas

[MarkBRFC]

14 hours ago, Roverthechimp said:

my Christmas hope is that we might see Pasha recede to the shadows for a while and maybe even a football related patsy (sorry CEO) installed which tends to lead to better short term decisions for about 10 months (or longer if the head coach is sufficiently mediocre to never threaten the playoffs)

Not a chance.

[TheKitGuy]

37 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

The Letter from the Coalition remains totally ignored,a two fingered salute to the fans of this Club.

As if we needed any more proof of their arrogance,THE most hated owners this Club has ever had.

Congratulations with your Indian 'Pride'.

It was answered by the club plants.

[Tomphil2]

15 hours ago, Roverthechimp said:

Anyone "know" (I accept nobody may have a definitiv 100% confirmation) if Pashas India jaunt was scheduled or if it was more of a spontaneous summons?

My "grasping at straws" hope is that the public scrutiny after the abandoned games circus has knocked his credibility "this week".

Coupled with Pickering being played, Gueye being dropped, Tavares not coming on and VI actually mentioning telephone contact (though without context or timeline) my Christmas hope is that we might see Pasha recede to the shadows for a while and maybe even a football related patsy (sorry CEO) installed which tends to lead to better short term decisions for about 10 months (or longer if the head coach is sufficiently mediocre to never threaten the playoffs)

No point him going back into the shadows where hes been operating from for a decade or so, nothing will change.

He needs to be front of house and held accountable for his actions, his bosses actions who he represents here and the actions of those he employs.

There's NO excuses, as COO THAT is his job otherwise clear off permanently.

[Roverthechimp]

48 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

No point him going back into the shadows where hes been operating from for a decade or so, nothing will change.

He needs to be front of house and held accountable for his actions, his bosses actions who he represents here and the actions of those he employs.

There's NO excuses, as COO THAT is his job otherwise clear off permanently.

What I want and what will happen are different things. Of course I want a functioning leadership at the club with appropriate powers.

Just not likely IMO - more interested if Pasha is “on the naughty step” and if we will see a short term return to the faux stability whilst the heat dissipates or if the timing is purely coincidental 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Unfortunately, judging by Saturday it's been completely ignored by the vast majority of the match going fanbase too.

Supporters want to carry on to back the players inside Ewood Park. You are never going to stop people buying from the club shop or concourse 

1 hour ago, TheKitGuy said:

It was answered by the club plants.

what was the replies? 

[Mattyblue]

It’s very simple. The wages are paid and there’s a team in blue and white running around Ewood Park, whilst that is the case a good few thousand will turn up, plus they’ll buy a pie if they fancy and they’ll buy some tat from the shop if they fancy and that’s that.

There is no point in wasting energy in worrying about changing minds of such folk.

[Tomphil2]

31 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

What I want and what will happen are different things. Of course I want a functioning leadership at the club with appropriate powers.

Just not likely IMO - more interested if Pasha is “on the naughty step” and if we will see a short term return to the faux stability whilst the heat dissipates or if the timing is purely coincidental 

My take on it is he might have spat his dummy at the scrutiny he's now under and taken some extra family time away on an already pre arranged trip.

Before he comes back and just carries on regardless.

I think we can be sure that won't won't be happening is him going over there telling them straight what's going on and what we need. Nor will it be them summoning him to explain the mess that has unfolded since their summer cashing in exercise.

Unfortunately.

[MarkBRFC]

54 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Supporters want to carry on to back the players inside Ewood Park. You are never going to stop people buying from the club shop or concourse 

 

Exactly, so there is no point getting at the club for ignoring the letter when the match gong fans have ignored it too.

[Herbie6590]

Daniel Storey in today’s i paper…*that* final paragraph 😢

 

[jim mk2]

Excitement, worry, anxiety,  fear, concern, brief raised hopes, ultimately dashed, drift, time, lots of time, slow decline, then finally apathy, because no one cares any more

The slow death of a famous football club

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Daniel Storey in today’s i paper…*that* final paragraph 😢

 

What a great article that is. 

"Ewood Park, home for 135 years, is full of memories and trinkets,that have become ghosts of a time when people were proud to come here".

And (Re The Coalition) 

"Their mandate is everything that's no more, tangible and intangible: investment, ambition, hope."

Absolutely nailed it.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Supporters want to carry on to back the players inside Ewood Park. You are never going to stop people buying from the club shop or concourse 

what was the replies?

I know it's entirely a matter of choice and personal conscience whether or not you attend games but imo you're treading a dangerously fine line between trolling and not with a flippant and dismissive attitude like that.

We all know you won't personally support any form of boycott or protest but why continually pour cold water on the well intentioned efforts of others?

Plus you've said at least twice you weren't going to post in this thread any more.

Edited 25 minutes ago by RevidgeBlue

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I know it's entirely a matter of choice and personal conscience whether or not you attend games but imo you're treading a dangerously fine line between trolling and not with a flippant and dismissive attitude like that.

We all know you won't personally support any form of boycott or protest but why continually pour cold water on the efforts of others?

Plus you've said at least twice you weren't going to post in this thread any more.

Where am I pour cold water on people not going? Its their choice. Its a personal choice. I have posted my thoughts on protest and what's gone on in the past seasons of protests/boycotting/etc. I also posted supporters who are still attending and why they are. I asked people around me about this boycott call or NAPM campaign and what they thoughts on it. You attend on Saturday, did you ask people around you about it? 

No I said I take a break from it. A few days. Its was Josh's post that interested me alot the other day. 

Edited 17 minutes ago by chaddyrovers

[StHelensRover]

9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I know it's entirely a matter of choice and personal conscience whether or not you attend games but imo you're treading a dangerously fine line between trolling and not with a flippant and dismissive attitude like that.

We all know you won't personally support any form of boycott or protest but why continually pour cold water on the well intentioned efforts of others?

Plus you've said at least twice you weren't going to post in this thread any more.

The best thing you can do is to use the mute feature. I'm going to take part in the Watford boycott and I am having to seriously consider season ticket renewal after 27 consecutive seasons. However, the responses I've now seen on here, social media more widely in addition what I've heard down at Ewood at the weekend have left me resigned to the fact that it won't work and that many people are going to ignore it. There are certain people on this message board who probably cannot wait for it to fail and you're best muting them. 

Edited 17 minutes ago by StHelensRover

[Mattyblue]

Fundamentally, and I don’t say this lightly, the likes of Glen and the rest of the Coalition decision makers don’t understand the mindset of the majority of the remaining match goers, that’s majority and remaining and their motivations when it comes to their fortnightly or so visits to Ewood - i.e not the likes of us on brfcs/their own social circles that still go but will do whatever it takes to try and get the bastards out or not those that have already stopped going.

If they did they would not have gone near an ‘official’ boycott with a barge pole.

Edited 7 minutes ago by Mattyblue

[StHelensRover]

I'd be really interested to know what the main decision is for those who go as to why they're not prepared to boycott, ones I can think of myself are:

- the owners don't care and it won't work

- not fair on the players

- it's really important part of my routine or the routine of my dependents (e.g. children, elderly or vulnerable) which I cannot forgo, even for one game

- I don't care about what happens off the pitch, I just 'back the boys' no matter what

- No one tells me what to do

That last one in bold is something I heard a few people saying at Ewood on Saturday, that included people who chant against the owners etc. I don't really understand that last one, just sounds like oppositional defiance. 

For each of those above reasons not to boycott, it's hard to get a message or interaction across that can interact with each point and put something convincing across without attracting hostile responses. I sympathise with the coalition on that point, it's very difficult