Championship 24/25

[davulsukur]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Another pathetic decision by another trigger happy head coach. 12 months ago I said he was wrong for sacking Rosenior now he is good job at Strasborg. Hull struggling last season. Oh well these trigger happy owners don't learn. 

I agree there, they were definitely wrong to sack Rosenior

[JHRover]

Hull's owner actually invests in his club and wants them to get somewhere and isn't afraid of making big and potentially expensive and risky decisions to achieve something.

Might work, might not, at least he can say he's tried and I'd rather be in their shoes than ours.

Compare to our owners he's a world away and not in a good way for Rovers.

Our owners have and would again sit back and allow a failing manager to drag the club into the lower divisions purely because they have no interest in the club's performance.

No other owner would allow that.

They deserve no credit at all for showing 'patience' which is actually total disinterest nothing more.

 

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Another pathetic decision by another trigger happy head coach. 12 months ago I said he was wrong for sacking Rosenior now he is good job at Strasborg. Hull struggling last season. Oh well these trigger happy owners don't learn. 

Maybe he's analysed results and performances since Selles arrived, spoken to key players and staff, and concluded their chances are probably better with a different coach?

All concepts that are long gone from this club but actually occur everywhere else where there are owners keen to get somewhere in the game rather than just make up the numbers every year.

[Mattyblue]

Yep, definitely don’t want to get trigger happy and want a manager sacked after a month…

[roversfan99]

I get the Selles one less than the Cleverley one.

With Watford, they arent in danger of relegation barring something catastrophic but par for them isnt necessarily top 6. Their aim though like many (including us, and we keep fucking this up by forcing talented managers out) should be to get into the top 6 because below the usual 2 or 3 parachute teams that steamroll the division, there is always an opportunity. To get there, your best bet is a really good manager/head coach who gets a team playing beyond the sum of its parts, so its worth gambling if you dont feel the current manager can do that. No idea who their new appointment is or if he fits the bill, but its a fair assumption that Cleverley wasnt capable of overachieving. Their record in the second half of the season was the worst in the division. 

With Hull, even factoring in debate as to whether they should or shouldnt have sacked Rosenior, perhaps not, but still the main reason for their decline was the massive decline in playing squad. They sold key players including Philogene and Greaves and lost a number of expensive loans last summer including Carvalho and Zaraoury. He managed to keep them up which was the aim (although only by the skin of their teeth).

That being said, I cant fathom why anyone who isnt a fan of either would get angry (and potentially wish them to be relegated) as a result. Why would we have such a vested interest. Even before considering the hypocrisy after wanting a managerial change here after a month.

[chaddyrovers]

8 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Yep, definitely don’t want to get trigger happy and want a manager sacked after a month…

back to this again Matty, you like a broken record now. I have admitted I was wrong FFS how more times do we have to go over it. 

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

That being said, I cant fathom why anyone who isnt a fan of either would get angry (and potentially wish them to be relegated) as a result. Why would we have such a vested interest. Even before considering the hypocrisy after wanting a managerial change here after a month.

no angry yet again as I previously told yourself last time you said this, 

There is far more in the world to be angry(if that your thing) about then about this specific issue

[Mattyblue]

And that’s fine, we all make mistakes - but then surely you are the last person then who at the moment should be acting all high and mighty about clubs sacking managers after a much longer 6 months or 12 months…

[chaddyrovers]

9 hours ago, davulsukur said:

I agree there, they were definitely wrong to sack Rosenior

deffo, He is doing a great job at Strasbourg and probably will be the next Chelsea head coach. Hull finished 7th and they should have backed him and build on that instead they teared it up and almost went down. 

8 hours ago, JHRover said:

Maybe he's analysed results and performances since Selles arrived, spoken to key players and staff, and concluded their chances are probably better with a different coach?

All concepts that are long gone from this club but actually occur everywhere else where there are owners keen to get somewhere in the game rather than just make up the numbers every year.

owner been through 5 head coaches in 3 and half years. far too trigging happy for me. Rosenior had them finish 7th and he should have stand by him and backed him again. 

Selles took over them rock bottom and keep them up. I would have took Ruben Selles here had Eustace's replacement if he hadn't have gone Hull. Did an excellent job at Reading under difficult circumstances. If I was QPR or Cardiff or Norwich I would seriously think of appointing. 

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

And that’s fine, we all make mistakes - but then surely you are the last person then who at the moment should be acting all high and mighty about clubs sacking managers after a much longer 6 months or 12 months…

I would advise you should take your advise cos that you down every time Matty. end off

[Mattyblue]

I’d take that advice if I had a clue what it was.

[Upside Down]

56 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

back to this again Matty, you like a broken record now. I have admitted I was wrong FFS how more times do we have to go over it.

The lack of self awareness on display here is really something to behold.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

back to this again Matty, you like a broken record now. I have admitted I was wrong FFS how more times do we have to go over it. 

no angry yet again as I previously told yourself last time you said this, 

There is far more in the world to be angry(if that your thing) about then about this specific issue

Why did you wish Watford relegated? 

A bit beyond merely offering an opinion.

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Why did you wish Watford relegated? 

A bit beyond merely offering an opinion.

Check the thread and you see why since you very quickly jumped on my comments RF99. its only a few pages backed since you seem to be sticking up for all these trigger happy owner decisions 👍

[roversfan99]

40 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Check the thread and you see why since you very quickly jumped on my comments RF99. its only a few pages backed since you seem to be sticking up for all these trigger happy owner decisions 👍

Would it not be easier to just say rather than being evasive and cryptic? I genuinely have not seen and dont know where you have said this.

I get why you might think they shouldnt have sacked them, I cant fathom why it would cause you to want them to be relegated.

[chaddyrovers]

26 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Would it not be easier to just say rather than being evasive and cryptic? I genuinely have not seen and dont know where you have said this.

I get why you might think they shouldnt have sacked them, I cant fathom why it would cause you to want them to be relegated.

I cant fathom why you are obsessing over a comment I've made over a week ago still