Championship 24/25

[davulsukur]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Another pathetic decision by another trigger happy head coach. 12 months ago I said he was wrong for sacking Rosenior now he is good job at Strasborg. Hull struggling last season. Oh well these trigger happy owners don't learn. 

I agree there, they were definitely wrong to sack Rosenior

[JHRover]

Hull's owner actually invests in his club and wants them to get somewhere and isn't afraid of making big and potentially expensive and risky decisions to achieve something.

Might work, might not, at least he can say he's tried and I'd rather be in their shoes than ours.

Compare to our owners he's a world away and not in a good way for Rovers.

Our owners have and would again sit back and allow a failing manager to drag the club into the lower divisions purely because they have no interest in the club's performance.

No other owner would allow that.

They deserve no credit at all for showing 'patience' which is actually total disinterest nothing more.

 

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Another pathetic decision by another trigger happy head coach. 12 months ago I said he was wrong for sacking Rosenior now he is good job at Strasborg. Hull struggling last season. Oh well these trigger happy owners don't learn. 

Maybe he's analysed results and performances since Selles arrived, spoken to key players and staff, and concluded their chances are probably better with a different coach?

All concepts that are long gone from this club but actually occur everywhere else where there are owners keen to get somewhere in the game rather than just make up the numbers every year.

[Mattyblue]

Yep, definitely don’t want to get trigger happy and want a manager sacked after a month…

[roversfan99]

I get the Selles one less than the Cleverley one.

With Watford, they arent in danger of relegation barring something catastrophic but par for them isnt necessarily top 6. Their aim though like many (including us, and we keep fucking this up by forcing talented managers out) should be to get into the top 6 because below the usual 2 or 3 parachute teams that steamroll the division, there is always an opportunity. To get there, your best bet is a really good manager/head coach who gets a team playing beyond the sum of its parts, so its worth gambling if you dont feel the current manager can do that. No idea who their new appointment is or if he fits the bill, but its a fair assumption that Cleverley wasnt capable of overachieving. Their record in the second half of the season was the worst in the division. 

With Hull, even factoring in debate as to whether they should or shouldnt have sacked Rosenior, perhaps not, but still the main reason for their decline was the massive decline in playing squad. They sold key players including Philogene and Greaves and lost a number of expensive loans last summer including Carvalho and Zaraoury. He managed to keep them up which was the aim (although only by the skin of their teeth).

That being said, I cant fathom why anyone who isnt a fan of either would get angry (and potentially wish them to be relegated) as a result. Why would we have such a vested interest. Even before considering the hypocrisy after wanting a managerial change here after a month.

[chaddyrovers]

8 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Yep, definitely don’t want to get trigger happy and want a manager sacked after a month…

back to this again Matty, you like a broken record now. I have admitted I was wrong FFS how more times do we have to go over it. 

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

That being said, I cant fathom why anyone who isnt a fan of either would get angry (and potentially wish them to be relegated) as a result. Why would we have such a vested interest. Even before considering the hypocrisy after wanting a managerial change here after a month.

no angry yet again as I previously told yourself last time you said this, 

There is far more in the world to be angry(if that your thing) about then about this specific issue

[Mattyblue]

And that’s fine, we all make mistakes - but then surely you are the last person then who at the moment should be acting all high and mighty about clubs sacking managers after a much longer 6 months or 12 months…

[chaddyrovers]

9 hours ago, davulsukur said:

I agree there, they were definitely wrong to sack Rosenior

deffo, He is doing a great job at Strasbourg and probably will be the next Chelsea head coach. Hull finished 7th and they should have backed him and build on that instead they teared it up and almost went down. 

8 hours ago, JHRover said:

Maybe he's analysed results and performances since Selles arrived, spoken to key players and staff, and concluded their chances are probably better with a different coach?

All concepts that are long gone from this club but actually occur everywhere else where there are owners keen to get somewhere in the game rather than just make up the numbers every year.

owner been through 5 head coaches in 3 and half years. far too trigging happy for me. Rosenior had them finish 7th and he should have stand by him and backed him again. 

Selles took over them rock bottom and keep them up. I would have took Ruben Selles here had Eustace's replacement if he hadn't have gone Hull. Did an excellent job at Reading under difficult circumstances. If I was QPR or Cardiff or Norwich I would seriously think of appointing. 

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

And that’s fine, we all make mistakes - but then surely you are the last person then who at the moment should be acting all high and mighty about clubs sacking managers after a much longer 6 months or 12 months…

I would advise you should take your advise cos that you down every time Matty. end off

[Mattyblue]

I’d take that advice if I had a clue what it was.

[Upside Down]

56 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

back to this again Matty, you like a broken record now. I have admitted I was wrong FFS how more times do we have to go over it.

The lack of self awareness on display here is really something to behold.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

back to this again Matty, you like a broken record now. I have admitted I was wrong FFS how more times do we have to go over it. 

no angry yet again as I previously told yourself last time you said this, 

There is far more in the world to be angry(if that your thing) about then about this specific issue

Why did you wish Watford relegated? 

A bit beyond merely offering an opinion.

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Why did you wish Watford relegated? 

A bit beyond merely offering an opinion.

Check the thread and you see why since you very quickly jumped on my comments RF99. its only a few pages backed since you seem to be sticking up for all these trigger happy owner decisions 👍

[roversfan99]

40 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Check the thread and you see why since you very quickly jumped on my comments RF99. its only a few pages backed since you seem to be sticking up for all these trigger happy owner decisions 👍

Would it not be easier to just say rather than being evasive and cryptic? I genuinely have not seen and dont know where you have said this.

I get why you might think they shouldnt have sacked them, I cant fathom why it would cause you to want them to be relegated.

[chaddyrovers]

26 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Would it not be easier to just say rather than being evasive and cryptic? I genuinely have not seen and dont know where you have said this.

I get why you might think they shouldnt have sacked them, I cant fathom why it would cause you to want them to be relegated.

I cant fathom why you are obsessing over a comment I've made over a week ago still 

[BenEccles_]

Am I being an idiot or have the club not even got an option to buy a season ticket through the website anymore? I keep checking to see if the people near me have renewed but there's no option anymore 😅

[MarkBRFC]

7 minutes ago, BenEccles_ said:

Am I being an idiot or have the club not even got an option to buy a season ticket through the website anymore? I keep checking to see if the people near me have renewed but there's no option anymore 😅

Off sale until 21st May.

They need a week for "admin" apparently.

Edited 6 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[arbitro]

5 minutes ago, BenEccles_ said:

Am I being an idiot or have the club not even got an option to buy a season ticket through the website anymore? I keep checking to see if the people near me have renewed but there's no option anymore 😅

There is a one week hiatus by the club are for what is reported as administration.

They are back on sale on May 21st with Phase 2 pricing.

[only2garners]

This is usually to allow the club to action any requests for those who have renewed to move seats. There will be a lot more freed up after the claim your own seat deadline.

[Mattyblue]

Surely you could just provisionally block out some seats or whatever, completely off sale for a week? Good job they aren’t all on a drive to increase revenue down there…

[only2garners]

I’m not sure I understand your point Matty. Do you mean the club should just block some seats out for those who want to move? How would that work?

As an example I can imagine that there are some fans who might want to move to the safe standing seats in NO1. Up to the claim your seat deadline there were none available as it was sold out to ST holders last season. I imagine that some will not have renewed so there will be some space. Alternatively there may be some who want to move out of there as well. You need to keep everywhere free so that people can choose.

[Mattyblue]

I must be being dim, explain to me then why c12,000 spare seats in the open stands need to be off sale for a week, to process, what, a hundred or so seat transfers?

Edited 2 hours ago by Mattyblue

[only2garners]

13 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

I must be being dim, explain to me then why c12,000 spare seats in the open stands need to be off sale for a week, to process, what, a hundred or so seat transfers?

What happens if one of the say 11,000 seats you might keep on sale happens to be next a mate of someone who wants to move and sit there but it’s sold before a seat transfer happens, for example? In truth there is plenty of time and space for anyone who wants to buy to do so even if sales are off for a week. I doubt there will be hundreds chomping at the bit on 21st May. 

[Mattyblue]

Surely you should be putting in a seat request for said seat next to a mate and that could be provisionally ‘greyed out’.

Why do 11,000 seats need to be off sale for a week?