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[lraC]

50 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have said my part on this to you whilst 2 members of FF have said O2G isn't to blame here but yet you continue this personal witch hunt of yours. I have nothing to add to my original post on this. 

It’s not a witch hunt, it’s you calling it that not me. I just want to know, why the two sets of minutes differ so much and maybe you will also when you get round to reading them both.

[Mike E]

33 minutes ago, lraC said:

It’s not a witch hunt, it’s you calling it that not me. I just want to know, why the two sets of minutes differ so much and maybe you will also when you get round to reading them both.

This is a much better post than was originally being made, which led to my reaction.

I too would like some clarity on why the minutes differed between the three versions.

[smudger]

1 hour ago, lraC said:

Unless you read the minutes, you are very much in the dark, about the first set (written by OGG’s) and the huge differences in the second set (written by GM) once you have read both sets, please feel free to come back and lambast me, if you don’t feel that I have just cause to question why the first set did not include any controversial points, which were raised according to all who attended. 

Sorry to intervene as I am newish on the board but why in the name of God does Chaddy need time to sit down and read them? It takes 5 minutes to read both sets of minutes and make an opinion either way. Genuine question are you (Chaddy) a club plant/mouthpiece? Seems you see or hear no wrong at Ewood?

[StHelensRover]

48 minutes ago, smudger said:

Sorry to intervene as I am newish on the board but why in the name of God does Chaddy need time to sit down and read them? It takes 5 minutes to read both sets of minutes and make an opinion either way. Genuine question are you (Chaddy) a club plant/mouthpiece? Seems you see or hear no wrong at Ewood?

He won't be pleased about that, you'll be getting a thumbs down for daring to question why he hasn't read the minutes despite him posting regularly in the thread where everyone else is discussing the minutes. 

Edited 1 hour ago by StHelensRover

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Ok but that assumes they're prepared to assume losses of tens of millions of pounds to pocket a few agent's fees.

Im not against anything that can be proven that shows wrongdoing on the part of the owners Im trying to figure out how it stacks up.

If that happened I think it comes under the envelope of Venky's being the real owners but being completely negligent and therefore the Club being ripped off, not for the first time imo. 

My thoughts were based on Venkys being the real owners and the agents taking advantage of how stupid they are.

Many other theories are available.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, wilsdenrover said:

My thoughts were based on Venkys being the real owners and the agents taking advantage of how stupid they are.

Many other theories are available.

Agreed.

[lraC]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

This is a much better post than was originally being made, which led to my reaction.

I too would like some clarity on why the minutes differed between the three versions.

Fair enough. Happy to leave it at that, until O2G has had the time to respond and given us the clarity, you, I and others, request. 

[lraC]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

And "the Club" poorer.

Just thinking Ira's theory through - hypothetically if the Club was really owned by agents then you'd have no need to transfer money outside the Club as you already own it.

However if Venky's own it but have given unscrupulous types licence to run it on their behalf then you'd need to get money out of the Club to prosper and that's one pretty decent way, to needlessly appoint yourself as agent for the Club on any sale.

IF any of the above occurred you'd expect the other appointed Club officials to step in and stop it.

Just for Clarity, I post as lraC (Carl) backwards. 

[den]

10 minutes ago, lraC said:

Just for Clarity, I post as lraC (Carl) backwards. 

why not just write it the right way round? Make it easier for some of us (me included. I didn’t realise it was Carl). 😀

[lraC]

3 minutes ago, den said:

why not just write it the right way round? Make it easier for some of us (me included. I didn’t realise it was Carl). 😀

Sorry Ned. 😂

[SuperBrfc]

3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Im going to "do a chaddy" on this one if you dont mind and refrain from ploughing through those.

It still seems odd to me that any Club would need to employ an agent when selling a player. Surely the CEO/Club Secretary etc should be capable of handling it?

Is it standard practice within the game do we know?

No worries, Rev. I've put the link there so that anybody who has some free time and wants to check it out for themselves can take a look.

I didn't know it was a thing either, but the documents clearly show many agents listed as representing the 'former club' (selling club) in transactions across the game. It appears to be normal practice, but I don't think it occurs in every sale.

I want to know how it comes about, how does an agent get that particular role. Do they offer their services or are they chosen by senior people within clubs?

What has emerged to me from studying these documents and looking at various other things over the last 15 years is a clear pattern. The pattern has been there from the start but took a sharp rise in 2015, oddly enough. I can't think what happened in 2015.

I made two predictions based on that pattern a few months back and told the forum: Karanka is next in and keep an eye out for six clubs.

A week after my first prediction...a friendly hack has Karanka down as the leading candidate, which the club denied. An agent trying to get Karanka (former Boro, former Birmingham) the gig? I think so.

As for the second call...just look at this summer. Who wants ex Sunderland, currently out in India, as the new CEO? That's the first piece of speculation I saw this summer.

Press rumours are press rumours I guess and people might say 'just paper talk' etc but again, there are a lot of coincidences that keep on happening.

Edited 14 minutes ago by SuperBrfc

[47er]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yet again both Glen Mullan and K-hod have said he isn't at fault yet you continue this personal witch hunt of a very good person in O2G and someone who has been doing the minutes for a very long time for the fans forum. 

Haven't got around to reading them for a range of reasons. Is there a timeline that the minutes must be read by? Must have that one 😁

I know where the minutes are the Rovers website thanks Hasta, don't need a link, I am more than capable of reading them when I can. 

where did I said I have no interested in the reading the minutes? making shit again RF99!!!!!!!!

I will read the minutes when I get the proper chance to sit down and read them. Is that actually ok or are you going to try to force me to read them by yours and other people deadline? Its quite funny and interesting how many of you lot are on your high horses over these minutes. 

In all your years of evasion that post tops the lot.