chaddyrovers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago yes home form hasn't been great but you could easily counter that by saying our away form is brilliant. our home form and wins at home this season should be much better but don't take our chances. We have 4 great chances yesterday and scored none of them. Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: yes home form hasn't been great but you could easily counter that by saying our away form is brilliant. our home form and wins at home this season should be much better but don't take our chances. We have 4 great chances yesterday and scored none of them. It's been a disaster Chaddy. Good job they have managed to to get a few away wins as we would be adrift with Wednesday. 2 Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: yes home form hasn't been great but you could easily counter that by saying our away form is brilliant. our home form and wins at home this season should be much better but don't take our chances. We have 4 great chances yesterday and scored none of them. 4 great chances, but converted none of them. Perhaps that's because the players just aren't very good. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: are any of those really number 6 defensive midfielder? no they aren't so you can't expect them to be. They are more of number 8 box to box midfielder or number 10 players. Forshaw and Montgomery are the back up for Tronstad not them. How can you not see that? Baradji is number 8 player and someone who is getting fitter and looks to have something about him I don't know what you have against Montgomery but you always against young players. some signings have been good, ok and bad so far. That natural under recruitmen5 Toth is level above Pears and he is different keeper who command his area much better. Tronstad not being available is a massive miss as Cantwell and not something we can really afford. I did call for another centre back before the window closed but Miller is comfortable in back 3 and I don't think he is as bad as you and others said in a centre back pairing Its easy to almost exclusively dismiss any errors made by people at the club in favour of pushing the hard luck and woe is me narrative. The main reason for our lack of depth is due to failings in recruitment. We have a number of new signings that if they were even ok, the squad wouldnt look as exposed as it does. If Gueye/Henriksson/Tavares/De Neve were even ok then we would at least have some competition for places. Baradji shouldnt just have made his first useful cameo on December 9th to make us think there might be a player in there, not far off half way through the season. And again, the defensive problems are totally self inflicted. You seem to be justifying and making excuses for the recruitment. I get that no club has a 100% recruitment success rate. But its about 2 things. To have half of our signings not only not really working but being absolutely awful, thats whats not acceptable. And also, its as much about what we didnt do in the summer that is costing us, especially in defence. We have injuries, its the middle of December, all teams have injuries. If you just want to pin it all on injuries and not look internally, then thats fine, Gestede will be happy with that at least. 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: yes home form hasn't been great but you could easily counter that by saying our away form is brilliant. our home form and wins at home this season should be much better but don't take our chances. We have 4 great chances yesterday and scored none of them. And that all levels out with us in 20th. We can seperate home and away form but ultimately it all comes down to where we are with those combined and its crap. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: some signings have been good, ok and bad so far. That natural under recruitmen5 Absolute rubbish. Ten signings. Baradji has been really good. Give them that one. Gudjohnssen has shown glimpses of promise and obviously has some potential - but his all round game is sadly lacking, may or may not make it overall. The rest have been generally shite. Baradji might or might not turn out to be decent, but a player who still isnt fit enough to start two weeks shy of Christmas can't be classed as a good signing. No other way of dressing it up Im afraid. Tavares, Miller, De Neve and Henrikssen are particularly poor in my book and Forshaw should never have been re-signed. Hickman and Mcglaughlin have just about been average and Moreshita (unlike Kargbo) looks to have some natural ability but we need to see far more from him. Edited 1 hour ago by RevidgeBlue Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: It's been a disaster Chaddy. Good job they have managed to to get a few away wins as we would be adrift with Wednesday. Our away form has been excellent and 3rd best in the league, the home form hasn't been great and we should be talking about 3 home back to back wins, but failed to see out the Ipswich game, the Sheffield Wednesday abandonment was piss poor and yesterday we should have won Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said: 4 great chances, but converted none of them. Perhaps that's because the players just aren't very good. Miller's header was similar to his goal header against Preston. McLoughlin's header got to much on it. TGH should score there Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: yes home form hasn't been great "Hasn't been great" 🙄 Worst in 150 years. 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Our away form has been excellent and 3rd best in the league, the home form hasn't been great and we should be talking about 3 home back to back wins, but failed to see out the Ipswich game, the Sheffield Wednesday abandonment was piss poor and yesterday we should have won As has been said above, put them together and we are sat in 20th. Nowhere near good enough, all could have and should have's. Lose on Saturday and we'll be in huge trouble with the next few fixtures coming up. 3 Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Miller's header was similar to his goal header against Preston. McLoughlin's header got to much on it. TGH should score there But they didn't. Because they're not good enough. 1 Quote
Popular Post Mattyblue Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Posted 1 hour ago Teams that go down are always full of sob stories. But guess what? Jettison your experience and bring in cheap replacements who don't know the division and you end up staring down the barrel. Not 'unlucky', not 'if we'd just'. We aren't and we didn't and that's solely due to the very conscious choices made by this disgusting regime. 10 Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Teams that go down are always full of sob stories. But guess what? Jettison your experience and bring in cheap replacements who don't know the division and you end up staring down the barrel. Not 'unlucky', not 'if we'd just'. We aren't and we didn't and that's solely due to the very conscious choices made by this disgusting regime. Exactly. After nearly half a season, we absolutely deserve to be where we are in the league. 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Wheelton Blue said: Exactly. After nearly half a season, we absolutely deserve to be where we are in the league. Oldest saying in the book - "The table doesn't lie". If the away form reverts to what you would normally expect from a team around 20th, we really are struggling. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Absolute rubbish. Ten signings. Baradji has been really good. Give them that one. Gudjohnssen has shown glimpses of promise and obviously has some potential - but his all round game is sadly lacking, may or may not make it overall. The rest have been generally shite. Baradji might or might not turn out to be decent, but a player who still isnt fit enough to start two weeks shy of Christmas can't be classed as a good signing. No other way of dressing it up Im afraid. Tavares, Miller, De Neve and Henrikssen are particularly poor in my book and Forshaw should never have been re-signed. Hickman and Mcglaughlin have just about been average and Moreshita looks to have some natural ability but we need to see far more from him. Gudjohnsen mike not it overall? 🤣 6 goals in 15 goals and international player, scored important and crucial goals in our wins like Southampton at home, PNE away and Leicester way Baradji has been really good? based on a few cameos of what? for me, waiting to see him properly and starting games before given proper judgement, done decent enough so far considering lack of pre season and the injury he had Alebiosu has been the stand out signing, McLoughlin and Miller more than decent enough, TGH decent, Morishita has shown what he is about and for me, improving game by game. Tavares has been the biggest disappointment for me, Henriksen has been poor, De Neve had a couple of good games/cameos but overall poor. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Baradji shouldnt just have made his first useful cameo on December 9th to make us think there might be a player in there, not far off half way through the season. we knew we would have to wait to see the player when he had surgery but its a signing Ismael wanted. Sometimes you have to made a brave call. Lets see what we get. 34 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: We have injuries, its the middle of December, all teams have injuries. If you just want to pin it all on injuries and not look internally, then thats fine, Gestede will be happy with that at least. who are looking at internally Gestede? did he sign every player or was it part of team decision between Ismael, Gestede, Owen and Cairney? I suspect the latter to be honest Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Baradji has been really good? based on a few cameos of what? for me, waiting to see him properly and starting games before given proper judgement, done decent enough so far considering lack of pre season and the injury he had If you read the post properly and used common sense, it was clear he meant Alebiosu as he mentions Bardji further down in the post. I just knew you would try and pick him up on it though. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: If you read the post properly and used common sense, it was clear he meant Alebiosu as he mentions Bardji further down in the post. I just knew you would try and pick him up on it though. wrong here Mark. quite a mixed up that one Quote
roversfan99 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: we knew we would have to wait to see the player when he had surgery but its a signing Ismael wanted. Sometimes you have to made a brave call. Lets see what we get. who are looking at internally Gestede? did he sign every player or was it part of team decision between Ismael, Gestede, Owen and Cairney? I suspect the latter to be honest Some might call it brave, some might see it as a luxury couldnt afford. If Tavares and Henriksson werent so bad and if TGH wasnt at best bang average then it might not be such an issue. Well whatever, pedantics aside. The main reason for how weak, thin and imbalanced our squad is self inflicted. It always comes back to the owners. But notably, whoever is directly involved in choosing transfers is mainly to blame. Hence why I am not just following the narrative of misfortune. There obviously will be some hard luck with injuries but its not the main reason our squad is so poor and imbalanced. Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago 54 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: As has been said above, put them together and we are sat in 20th. Nowhere near good enough, all could have and should have's. Lose on Saturday and we'll be in huge trouble with the next few fixtures coming up. That's the horrible reality for most of us who dont have our Heads in the Sand. A few away losses and we fall like a Stone.Our survival on a Razors edge. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 46 minutes ago Posted 46 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Some might call it brave, some might see it as a luxury couldnt afford. If Tavares and Henriksson werent so bad and if TGH wasnt at best bang average then it might not be such an issue. Well whatever, pedantics aside. The main reason for how weak, thin and imbalanced our squad is self inflicted. It always comes back to the owners. But notably, whoever is directly involved in choosing transfers is mainly to blame. Hence why I am not just following the narrative of misfortune. There obviously will be some hard luck with injuries but its not the main reason our squad is so poor and imbalanced. The imbalanced in the summer is in 2 areas which is right wing back and centre back areas. centre midfielder areas we are well stick but injuries has had impact. But we also need to factor in moving to 3-5-2 formation has improved results. We spend around 10m this summer and reinvest money from Sales. How we choose transfer targets is question people will continue to ask. some signings will be good and they get praise and other won't and they get criticise for Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago There is no way they spent around 10 million pull your head out of the clouds i think the next accounts will tell a truer picture of around half that spent. Around 10 million in fees maybe committed over time including various add ons but not spent. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 42 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Gudjohnsen mike not it overall? 🤣 6 goals in 15 goals and international player, scored important and crucial goals in our wins like Southampton at home, PNE away and Leicester way Baradji has been really good? based on a few cameos of what? for me, waiting to see him properly and starting games before given proper judgement, done decent enough so far considering lack of pre season and the injury he had Alebiosu has been the stand out signing, McLoughlin and Miller more than decent enough, TGH decent, Morishita has shown what he is about and for me, improving game by game. Tavares has been the biggest disappointment for me, Henriksen has been poor, De Neve had a couple of good games/cameos but overall poor. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it of course. Yet here we are sat in 20th. So obviously something is going wrong somewhere. Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 37 minutes ago Posted 37 minutes ago (edited) 10 Million spend?...you are having a laugh Chaddy. Edited 36 minutes ago by SIMON GARNERS 194 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: There is no way they spent around 10 million pull your head out of the clouds i think the next accounts will tell a truer picture of around half that spent. Around 10 million in fees maybe committed over time including various add ons but not spent. Tbf most transfer fees are a reflection of the maximum possible commitment over a number of years if various add ons are met these days. Chaddy likes to crow about the fact we "spent" £10m in summer. We probably did, but he doesnt like it pointing out that in reality we had a negative net spend of around £2m after we selling £12m worth of players. Edited 33 minutes ago by RevidgeBlue 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 32 minutes ago Moderation Lead Posted 32 minutes ago 13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: The imbalanced in the summer is in 2 areas which is right wing back and centre back areas. centre midfielder areas we are well stick but injuries has had impact. But we also need to factor in moving to 3-5-2 formation has improved results. We spend around 10m this summer and reinvest money from Sales. How we choose transfer targets is question people will continue to ask. some signings will be good and they get praise and other won't and they get criticise for We did neither. We've been cost cutting like feck for the last few years, feel like you'd have noticed? Quote
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