2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[M_B]

47 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

A very random target, if we had Hyam, Carter, Batth and Wharton then centre back would not be an area we would be best served spending a reasonable chunk of our tiny budget on, but it seems like Batth might be leaving and who can blame him. I remain unconvinced until hes here holding up the shirt and the paperwork is all done.

Why is a potential new contract for Brittain a "big statement?" Im not sure it would be at any other football club, getting a player to sign a new deal. It would of course be good news but im sick of hearing that players are close to new deals or that we are trying. Again, only matters when signed.

And that line on Drameh sums up the standard of Jackson's journalism. Spelling and grammar errors leading in this case to misleading or confusing stories.

The tedious Alexander-Arnold saga made national headlines.

[wilsdenrover]

3 hours ago, ... said:

Where's this Roverseas guy pulling all these names from?

His arse.

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said:

Rarely fit and anyone is a good player when “playing well”. Talking about shipping out Hyam who played every minute last season in favour of keeping Wharton who has been injured over a year and has had short bursts of doing okay. Smells of “Blackburn lad” tax

"Short bursts of doing ok" describes Hyam to a tee.

Ironically alongside Wharton and later Batth.

Edited Monday at 12:54 by RevidgeBlue

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said:

His arse.

His thousands of subscribers must lap it up though.

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

His thousands of subscribers must lap it up though.

His stories or his…

[Theaxe15]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

"Short bursts of doing ok" describes Hyam to a tee.

Ironically alongside Wharton and later Batth.

Player of the season in his first season. I’m not even that high on Hyam at all so would agree with some criticism. But when has Wharton been any good? Apart from a short spell in a back 3? Where the lesser of the 3 defenders can get away with being a bit shit

[roversfan99]

17 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Strange criticism. They told us they wanted a LCB, and it looks like they’re going to get one. 

Ive always said (obviously based on the assumption that Batth stays) that a centre back should be well down the priority list.

Just because they told us that they wanted someone doesnt mean I have to see it as the same priority as them.

If Batth goes then obviously it becomes more of a priority. But we still need to spend the majority of our low resources on overhauling the attacking areas.

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

"Short bursts of doing ok" describes Hyam to a tee.

Ironically alongside Wharton and later Batth.

He won player of the season in his first season, and much of that was alongside Carter. He was also really good the season just gone and was an ever present in us I think getting our most clean sheets since these terrible owners darkened our doors. That poor season in between has proven to be the exception.

A more experienced partner does seem to take his game to a higher level, but he is a good Championship centre back either way. I also dont remember a prolonged period of him playing alongside Wharton, so any idea of Wharton being someone who made him look competent is unfair.

Youve never liked Hyam and youve never liked Tronstad and both were signed by Broughton who was another person who you used as a deflection to pile the blame on and away from Venkys. 

[Admiral Nelsen]

7 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said:

Player of the season in his first season. I’m not even that high on Hyam at all so would agree with some criticism. But when has Wharton been any good? Apart from a short spell in a back 3? Where the lesser of the 3 defenders can get away with being a bit shit

 

That short spell was the longest time he's spent in the side, isn't it? 

You're right than playing in a back three made his job easier, but then again there's probably not a manager in world football that would make his job harder than JDT. Zero protection from the midfield, playing on the half way line, being judged for your work with the ball as much as defending. 

If we're saying his good spell under Mowbray has caveats, then his struggles under JDT should have at least as much, if not bigger ones. 

[Fraserkirky]

3 hours ago, KentExile said:

I find him to be one of the most annoying, and ill informed people I have ever seen on youtube.... which is really saying something

Just regurgitates clickbait news articles whilst offering no insight and nothing of value

Harsh as a fellow exile you should be a little more forgiving. Does his best and is a massive rovers fan. 

[Theaxe15]

4 minutes ago, Admiral Nelsen said:

 

That short spell was the longest time he's spent in the side, isn't it? 

You're right than playing in a back three made his job easier, but then again there's probably not a manager in world football that would make his job harder than JDT. Zero protection from the midfield, playing on the half way line, being judged for your work with the ball as much as defending. 

If we're saying his good spell under Mowbray has caveats, then his struggles under JDT should have at least as much, if not bigger ones. 

Fair but his only decent spell being caveated says it all no? The amount of times he gave the ball away in that back 3 was ridiculous. He just gets more slack because he’s “Blackburn through and through”.

Hyam got player of the season in JDTs first season. So it was possible for defenders to do okay. Though I agree it was kamikaze-esque defensively under him.

[KentExile]

3 hours ago, ... said:

Where's this Roverseas guy pulling all these names from?

 

3 hours ago, KentExile said:

I find him to be one of the most annoying, and ill informed people I have ever seen on youtube.... which is really saying something

Just regurgitates clickbait news articles whilst offering no insight and nothing of value

 

4 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

Harsh as a fellow exile you should be a little more forgiving. Does his best and is a massive rovers fan. 

I was being as nice as my I could possibly be.

Believe me, I held back

[chaddyrovers]

Gestede said in the interview with Elliott Jackson that we would be targeting a left side centre back and these 2 players fit that bill.

We need another centre back signing. Yes we have Hyam, Carter and Wharton plus Batth if he signs but lets look at this really, It has been reported that Wharton won't be back for the start of pre season, so surely we can't count too much on him or put pressure on him, he will need to ease back into the fold and slowly. Carter was injured last season and only played 16 games last season and then Batth is yet to sign. So overall, its a signing we need to make this summer. Lets hope Batth re-sign for next season and Can I say that O'Riordan or Litherhand is ready to be 4th choice back, no I can't sadly. 

So I don't know how people can say this signing isn't need this summer. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

A very random target, if we had Hyam, Carter, Batth and Wharton then centre back would not be an area we would be best served spending a reasonable chunk of our tiny budget on, but it seems like Batth might be leaving and who can blame him. I remain unconvinced until hes here holding up the shirt and the paperwork is all done.

Why is a potential new contract for Brittain a "big statement?" Im not sure it would be at any other football club, getting a player to sign a new deal. It would of course be good news but im sick of hearing that players are close to new deals or that we are trying. Again, only matters when signed.

And that line on Drameh sums up the standard of Jackson's journalism. Spelling and grammar errors leading in this case to misleading or confusing stories.

Firstly, who knows what our budget unless you know something we don't. If you have inside information please could you post it for the messageboard

Secondly, how is random target? why wouldn't we be looking at French market for signings? 

Thirdly, Brittain is a key player for this Rovers team and getting him a new contract would be good smart move

30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Ive always said (obviously based on the assumption that Batth stays) that a centre back should be well down the priority list.

If Batth re-sign that only given you 3 centre backs and so surely you need another centre back signing this summer? 

[Admiral Nelsen]

Just now, Theaxe15 said:

Fair but his only decent spell being caveated says it all no? The amount of times he gave the ball away in that back 3 was ridiculous. He just gets more slack because he’s “Blackburn through and through”.

Hyam got player of the season in JDTs first season. So it was possible for defenders to do okay. Though I agree it was kamikaze-esque defensively under him.

 

He did, but it caught up with him eventually. Largely because I think he basically has the same strengths/weaknesses as Wharton.

I should say too that I'm not suggesting that Wharton's the better player, or that I don't rate Hyam. But I'm saying first that we shouldn't be too harsh in judging Wharton, because the vast majority of his appearances have either been i) in easy street in a back three where he looked great, or ii) where he looked very shaky in a system almost custom designed to leave him exposed. We've basically never seen him in a 'normal' set up for more than a few games here and there.

 

Let's wait and see what Ismael wants. If he wants mobile defenders then his lack of pace will be a serious issue. But then again it's only really Carter who would get away with us layer a high line at present. 

[Eddie]

3 hours ago, DutchRover said:

LT claims we are in advanced talks for Modibo Sagnan, a left-footed CB from Montpellier. I would've thought he would be out of our price range looking at past transfer and value, but I know nothing about him so who knows.

He's definitely on his way out of Montpellier and has been heavily linked with moves to Italy and the Championship (Leeds, Sunderland). 

Valued at around €3 million (he only signed for Montpellier 18 months ago for a fee in that region), that seems like an awfully big chunk of money to spend on a central defender if our budget is similar to years past. 

He's quite decent on the ball for a central defender. A big physical presence. We've been missing that type of player at the back for a while and he also offers a useful goalscoring threat from set pieces. 

He'd be a good signing, but not sure it's an absolute priority when our budget doesn't stretch very far. 

 

[funny-old-game]

Not a dig at you Eddie, is just made me laugh re our budget 

15 minutes ago, Eddie said:

 

He'd be a good signing, but not sure it's an absolute priority when our budget doesn't stretch very far. 

Not a dig at you Eddie, is just made me laugh re our budget 

 

Edited Monday at 14:00 by funny-old-game

[Tomphil2]

3 hours ago, Crimpshrine said:

Funny how we refused to offer Batth a 2 year deal 2 years ago and now we are desperate for him to stay for what would have been a third season if he signed first time around. False economy as usual.

I suspect one phone call from John Eustace and he will be gone. 

Yep and i fully expect they'll try and replace him with someone less experienced on cheaper wages but a potential sell on value.

False economy is a speciality at Ewood but selling an Armstrong, Szmodics or especially a Wharton covers over for the waste created elsewhere.

[sharpysharps86]

I can only assume that this fella from Montpellier has a relegation release clause that falls within what we are prepared to pay. I'd imagine it'd be at least half of the 3 million euros that has been mentioned. Sounds a lot more feasible if this is the case.
 

[Theaxe15]

15 minutes ago, Admiral Nelsen said:

 

He did, but it caught up with him eventually. Largely because I think he basically has the same strengths/weaknesses as Wharton.

I should say too that I'm not suggesting that Wharton's the better player, or that I don't rate Hyam. But I'm saying first that we shouldn't be too harsh in judging Wharton, because the vast majority of his appearances have either been i) in easy street in a back three where he looked great, or ii) where he looked very shaky in a system almost custom designed to leave him exposed. We've basically never seen him in a 'normal' set up for more than a few games here and there.

 

Let's wait and see what Ismael wants. If he wants mobile defenders then his lack of pace will be a serious issue. But then again it's only really Carter who would get away with us layer a high line at present. 

But how else should we judge Wharton. He’s at an age now where he should have played far far more than he has for us. That’s either due to not being physically robust enough so being regularly injured or just not being fancied by the managers. They’re the ones who judge him and deem him not suitable for said “normal set ups”.
He’s been in and around the senior squad for 9 years now and has been what would be classed as a regular for one spell and that was when we had 3 at the back, so was probably the “extra” defender in there. 89 appearances according to Wikipedia (I know).

Seems a good lad and fairly intelligent, especially for a footballer, but that unfortunately counts for little.

[roversfan99]

26 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Gestede said in the interview with Elliott Jackson that we would be targeting a left side centre back and these 2 players fit that bill.

We need another centre back signing. Yes we have Hyam, Carter and Wharton plus Batth if he signs but lets look at this really, It has been reported that Wharton won't be back for the start of pre season, so surely we can't count too much on him or put pressure on him, he will need to ease back into the fold and slowly. Carter was injured last season and only played 16 games last season and then Batth is yet to sign. So overall, its a signing we need to make this summer. Lets hope Batth re-sign for next season and Can I say that O'Riordan or Litherhand is ready to be 4th choice back, no I can't sadly. 

So I don't know how people can say this signing isn't need this summer. 

Firstly, who knows what our budget unless you know something we don't. If you have inside information please could you post it for the messageboard

Secondly, how is random target? why wouldn't we be looking at French market for signings? 

Thirdly, Brittain is a key player for this Rovers team and getting him a new contract would be good smart move

If Batth re-sign that only given you 3 centre backs and so surely you need another centre back signing this summer? 

Seems a bit rich to be pulling me up on an expectation that our budget will be low considering the fact that you keep saying that the budget is an exact amount (£5m) based on the words of a fraud in Suhail saying that we apparently spent £4-5m last season, then taking that as fact without questioning it and assuming we will have the higher end of that to spend on fees this summer.

I have said before that the majority of any budget we do have needs to be spent on the attack. I would be happy with Hyam, Batth, Carter and Wharton as a choice of 4. If Wharton is miles off fitness wise then a cheap 5th option would make sense. This player seems to have been sold for a decent fee not long ago so it would presumably take a decent chunk of any budget to bring him here. The priority obviously goes up if Batth goes but still.

Our defence was good last season, our attack was poor. Added to that, it will start off even worse when Dolan leaves.

Signing Brittain on an extended deal would obviously be good deal. Wouldnt be a "big statement" though to give a player we should have tied down before now a contract extension.

[simongarnerisgod]

12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Signing Brittain on an extended deal would obviously be good deal. Wouldnt be a "big statement" though to give a player we should have tied down before now a contract extension.

we need to tie down tronstadt and travis as well,especially tronstadt who is vital to us imo

[Exiled_Rover]

30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Seems a bit rich to be pulling me up on an expectation that our budget will be low considering the fact that you keep saying that the budget is an exact amount (£5m) based on the words of a fraud in Suhail saying that we apparently spent £4-5m last season, then taking that as fact without questioning it and assuming we will have the higher end of that to spend on fees this summer.

I have said before that the majority of any budget we do have needs to be spent on the attack. I would be happy with Hyam, Batth, Carter and Wharton as a choice of 4. If Wharton is miles off fitness wise then a cheap 5th option would make sense. This player seems to have been sold for a decent fee not long ago so it would presumably take a decent chunk of any budget to bring him here. The priority obviously goes up if Batth goes but still.

Our defence was good last season, our attack was poor. Added to that, it will start off even worse when Dolan leaves.

Signing Brittain on an extended deal would obviously be good deal. Wouldnt be a "big statement" though to give a player we should have tied down before now a contract extension.

It depends what system Ismael installs next season. 

If he goes to 3 at the back with 2 wing backs then we need another CB and a CF. 

If he sticks with a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1 then we need two talented wingers. 

[roversfan99]

If we are going 3 at the back then we shouldnt have renewed Ribeiro's contract because he (even moreso than Pickering who isnt either) isnt a wing back.

[Admiral Nelsen]

39 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said:

But how else should we judge Wharton. He’s at an age now where he should have played far far more than he has for us. That’s either due to not being physically robust enough so being regularly injured or just not being fancied by the managers. They’re the ones who judge him and deem him not suitable for said “normal set ups”.
He’s been in and around the senior squad for 9 years now and has been what would be classed as a regular for one spell and that was when we had 3 at the back, so was probably the “extra” defender in there. 89 appearances according to Wikipedia (I know).

Seems a good lad and fairly intelligent, especially for a footballer, but that unfortunately counts for little.

 

With difficulty! That's sort of my point. He's had three seasons where he's managed to play enough to be properly judged. One, with everything in his favour, he looked brilliant. Two, with everything going against him, he looked well short. 

 

What we can say is that he has obvious shortcomings with his game (mobility, accident prone on the ball. Although he can pick a pass when he gets it right). But as a Championship centre back, there are lots of players who you could put in that bracket who do perfectly well in the right set up. Because of injuries and him having a slightly weird career with the managers he's played under, we still don't know if Wharton would thrive in a more ordinary system, and we don't know how Ismael is going to get us playing next year. I wouldn't be quick to write him off, that's all I'm saying. 

[DutchRover]

2 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

I can only assume that this fella from Montpellier has a relegation release clause that falls within what we are prepared to pay. I'd imagine it'd be at least half of the 3 million euros that has been mentioned. Sounds a lot more feasible if this is the case.
 

Must be, can't see how we could afford him otherwise, the other defender at Saint Etienne, Nade, will be in the same boat you'd think.

[aletheia]

Is there a ratio (or is it a constant) between the number of pages of this thread, the number of names mentioned and the players actually signed? 🙂