Tugayisgod Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Why are people so obsessed with what Derby are doing.? I couldn't give a rats ass personally what they do, they aren't my team 4 Quote
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chaddyrovers Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago How does that work with players already above 10k like Cantwell or Hyam or Travis?Β Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: How does that work with players already above 10k like Cantwell or Hyam or Travis?Β they`ll be either sold or their contracts run down.no idea if the rumour is true,but looking at the reason for departuresΒ of jdt and eustace it probably is Quote
roversfan99 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Im not saying it is true, I dont know.Β But if it is presumably from this summer, then it helps to explain the difficulty in getting Travis, Hyam, Brittain, Dolan and Tronstad to extend their deals. Either way, the main reason we will be struggling to tie down our best players is for financial reasons. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Im not saying it is true, I dont know.Β But if it is presumably from this summer, then it helps to explain the difficulty in getting Travis, Hyam, Brittain, Dolan and Tronstad to extend their deals. Either way, the main reason we will be struggling to tie down our best players is for financial reasons. It will def be financial no doubting that but if itβs as clear cut as 10k cap then why havenβt they just rejected the offers and put in a transfer request. Would seem like the logical thing to doΒ Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said: It will def be financial no doubting that but if itβs as clear cut as 10k cap then why havenβt they just rejected the offers and put in a transfer request. Would seem like the logical thing to doΒ If you put in a transfer you lose your "loyalty" payments if sold. It's only one year if needs be for Trav, Tronstad, Brittain and Hyam, they might aswell see it out if the offers to sell them don't come in now. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Im not saying it is true, I dont know.Β But if it is presumably from this summer, then it helps to explain the difficulty in getting Travis, Hyam, Brittain, Dolan and Tronstad to extend their deals. Either way, the main reason we will be struggling to tie down our best players is for financial reasons. it`s a completely bizarre way to run a football club,is`nt it better to tie players down to longer contracts then sell them if you are struggling for money,you get the best price then,i take it venkys don`t run their chicken butcheringΒ business like they do their football club Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: It will def be financial no doubting that but if itβs as clear cut as 10k cap then why havenβt they just rejected the offers and put in a transfer request. Would seem like the logical thing to doΒ Because logically it's more lucrative to see the contract out at Ewood. Quote
Backroom Tom Posted 11 hours ago Backroom Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Agreed ages ago but buried until we'd got some signings in, hide bad news behind good. Nice of Derby to wait for us to get some signings in to announce it then!Β 4 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 9 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: If you put in a transfer you lose your "loyalty" payments if sold. It's only one year if needs be for Trav, Tronstad, Brittain and Hyam, they might aswell see it out if the offers to sell them don't come in now. Still a risk could lose form could get a serious injury. While stock is high now I doubt the βloyaltyβ payments would/should be much of an issueΒ Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Because logically it's more lucrative to see the contract out at Ewood. Is it though if they say nope I want out and have suitors would they then not move on to a better pay packet? Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tom said: Nice of Derby to wait for us to get some signings in to announce it then!Β Not difficult to ask them not too really is it out of respect. These things happen in football all the time and they don't have to bother about shifting season tickets do they. All it takes is both players to say out of respect for Rovers to say please don't tip the press off yet By the way would you like to show me where Derby have announced it ? Edited 11 hours ago by Tomphil2 Quote
Waggy76 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, ... said: Imagine getting hammered by our old players. Think I'd actually cry I am 62 now, on the day of relegation from the Prem, I said I will never see Rovers back in that Division.Β Why you ask?Β Cos that relegation was 100% deliberate and nothing as happened since to make me change my mind.Β Venkys Out now , there won't be a club in 2030.Β 7 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) It still boils my piss that weβve allowed Danny Batth to walk away. Probably the easiest, and certainly the most sensible deal, they could have done all summer. Weβll come to rue that all season. Edited 11 hours ago by G Somerset Rover 5 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Im not saying it is true, I dont know.Β But if it is presumably from this summer, then it helps to explain the difficulty in getting Travis, Hyam, Brittain, Dolan and Tronstad to extend their deals. Either way, the main reason we will be struggling to tie down our best players is for financial reasons. Aren't most of those players you listed on higher wages than 10k.Β Hyam and Cantwell are probably our biggest wage earners, Travis, Brittain and Tronstad on higher than 10k.Β Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Is it though if they say nope I want out and have suitors would they then not move on to a better pay packet? You're assuming concrete interest and bids that would satisfy Rovers and give the player a pay rise. The likely event is there is neither so unless they ask and forfeit whatever is owing in order to gamble on a move the fashionable thing to do at Rovers is play out or sit out your contract. Pick up your full pay and anything owing then go elsewhere free hopefully get bigger wages and a signing on fee. Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Aren't most of those players you listed on higher wages than 10k.Β Hyam and Cantwell are probably our biggest wage earners, Travis, Brittain and Tronstad on higher than 10k.Β What does that matter if the cap has on recently been introduced ? Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Just now, Tomphil2 said: You're assuming concrete interest and bids that would satisfy Rovers and give the player a pay rise. The likely event is there is neither so unless they ask and forfeit whatever is owing in order to gamble on a move the fashionable thing to do at Rovers is play out or sit out your contract. Pick up your full pay and anything owing then go elsewhere free hopefully get bigger wages and a signing on fee. I disagreeβ¦.there would 100% be suitors for Brittain trav and tronstad bids that would satisfy rovers? Going by the majority in here weβd accept any sort of money for them so itβs either weβre in fire sale or weβre not? im just not buying the 10k thing personally but itl def be financial one way or anotherΒ Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Waggy76 said: I am 62 now, on the day of relegation from the Prem, I said I will never see Rovers back in that Division.Β Why you ask?Β Cos that relegation was 100% deliberate and nothing as happened since to make me change my mind.Β Venkys Out now , there won't be a club in 2030.Β we`ve had chances to build on promising seasons since relegation,every time venkys have impeded the manager,there will still be rovers in 2030 though we`ll probably be in the bottom division with 2 stands open Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Not difficult to ask them not too really is it out of respect. These things happen in football all the time and they don't have to bother about shifting season tickets do they. All it takes is both players to say out of respect for Rovers to say please don't tip the press off yet and by the way would you like to show me where Derby have announced it ? So your theory is both batth and weimann have had some gentlemanβs agreement with Derby to say βdonβt tip off the press or let on we have signedβ until rovers have announced a couple of signings so it takes the edge off? 2 Quote
Waggy76 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said: we`ve had chances to build on promising seasons since relegation,every time venkys have impeded the manager,there will still be rovers in 2030 though we`ll probably be in the bottom division with 2 stands open Β I don't share your optimism.Β Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Waggy76 said: Β I don't share your optimism.Β it`s not really optimism!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: I disagreeβ¦.there would 100% be suitors for Brittain trav and tronstad bids that would satisfy rovers? Going by the majority in here weβd accept any sort of money for them so itβs either weβre in fire sale or weβre not? im just not buying the 10k thing personally but itl def be financial one way or anotherΒ I'd say the 10k think is correct you have to look at the bigger picture and all the things in it and for now it probably allows us to keep a few higher earners a bit longer, coupled with the squad filled out with lads on far less than 10k. Elements in the equation ... No/severely reduced funding Clubs surviving in the near future on sales income/low ticket sales The need to pull in line future wages to income ratio or risk punishment No players of any real value left to sell. A 10k cap makes perfect sense.....to them not us. I believe Preston had similar a few years but had no choice but to up it in order to compete but we are clearly being set up to go the other way. It's operation put a team out and don't go bust at Ewood now. Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: So your theory is both batth and weimann have had some gentlemanβs agreement with Derby to say βdonβt tip off the press or let on we have signedβ until rovers have announced a couple of signings so it takes the edge off? It's possible but ... THEY HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED IT have they. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Tomphil2 said: It's possible but ... THEY HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED IT have they. WHO said they had wasnβt me Iβm just questioning what quite frankly is a crazy theory Quote
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