Tomphil2 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Mercer said: Quiet and depressing. Seen reported half a dozen or so Academy lads training with 1st team - Ismael must be gutted. Scores on the doors from last season: 'Gone': Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Beck, ACD (5) 'Going': Travis (90% probability), Brittain (90% probability) and Tronstad & Hyam (50/50) In: De Neve, Tavares (2) So that's 5 seniors (4 of which good/steady Championship performers) out the door with another 4 in the 'revolving door'. Neither of our 2 signings have pulled up trees at their previous clubs and highly unlikely to hit the ground running - 2 big risks.ย To coin an advertising slogan - 'the future's bleak, the future's black' ! That'll be the 90% business done then by the first week of pre season. Quote
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islander200 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago We didn't know anything about the 2 players who have signed until their first link and 24 hours later they had signed. De Neve said in his interview he was first made aware of our interest 3 months agoย so hopefully they have some more signings close 3 Quote
Popular Post harryhealless1928 Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago (edited) Must be difficult to drum up positivity in the players left when VI sees his decimated squad. No way under Earth`s starry firmanent they can replace Dolan(worth only ยฃ1 million apparently) at that level for the money saved including wages without extraordinary luck! Must be his re-sale value isn`t high so they don`t care! I know the lad has his limitations,but he`s far superior to Hedges or anyone else we have as a wide forward plus isn`t permanently injured and does get involved.ย The absolute reversal of Buckley or Corey Evans, Guthrie etc etc The only contract renewals aka Hedges, Forshaw are players who have no other takers. VIย will seriously earn his corn if he stays(and keeps us up). Edited 9 hours ago by harryhealless1928 18 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Mercer said: Quiet and depressing. Seen reported half a dozen or so Academy lads training with 1st team - Ismael must be gutted. Scores on the doors from last season: 'Gone': Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Beck, ACD (5) 'Going': Travis (90% probability), Brittain (90% probability) and Tronstad & Hyam (50/50) In: De Neve, Tavares (2) So that's 5 seniors (4 of which good/steady Championship performers) out the door with another 4 in the 'revolving door'. Neither of our 2 signings have pulled up trees at their previous clubs and highly unlikely to hit the ground running - 2 big risks.ย To coin an advertising slogan - 'the future's bleak, the future's black' ! Once again though you said this last year probably around the exact same timeย I do think we are behind in terms of recruitment and Iโm not a big fan of people saying judge us when the window is closed etc but we are extremely early in it and there are very little clubs doing business at presentย Quote
bluebruce Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Mercer said: Quiet and depressing. Seen reported half a dozen or so Academy lads training with 1st team - Ismael must be gutted. Scores on the doors from last season: 'Gone': Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Beck, ACD (5) 'Going': Travis (90% probability), Brittain (90% probability) and Tronstad & Hyam (50/50) In: De Neve, Tavares (2) So that's 5 seniors (4 of which good/steady Championship performers) out the door with another 4 in the 'revolving door'. Neither of our 2 signings have pulled up trees at their previous clubs and highly unlikely to hit the ground running - 2 big risks.ย To coin an advertising slogan - 'the future's bleak, the future's black' ! Exaggerations. Apart from Beck and ACD, your gone list aren't actually gone yet. They're in the 90% going category, which you've also exaggerated. 1 Quote
JHRover Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago They're going to do this summer what they planned on doing last summer until Eustace put his foot down and threatened to walk out after only 4 months in the job.ย After that wobble they backed down and allowed him to bring in McFadzean, Batth, Weimann and Cantwell, some much needed British based experience. He also brought Travis back into centre place and vital importance to the team after the Regime had got him out the door to Ipswich and were looking to sell him. Eustace had correctly identified an issue with inexperience when he arrived at the club, they'd been going hell for leather down the track of untried and inexperienced under JDT, and it was going to catch up with us eventually. They'll be happy that they got Eustace out of the way and got compensation for him and his staff (is that our transfer kitty money for the summer?). Now they've got someone in place who is more likely to tolerate 'the plan' (and I use that term loosely for what this lot are doing) they can resume the operation with gusto. So bye bye to those expecting Championship level wages or contracts longer than 2 years, get shut of Eustace's favourites and it's back to the European bargain aisle.ย 5 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I see that Elliott Jackson is basically reported that we wont be replacing Batth and Weimann. Bit of a propaganda piece justifying the decision and even saying that there is no downside to giving Forshaw a new deal. What about that he isnt good enough? I dont get how you can go from thinking you need say 6 or 7 to still needing the exact same number after 2 unexpected exits. Surely you decided on a certain squad size for a reason. I recall that the stats regarding us starting new signings on opening day are particularly low and I wouldnt be surprised to see none in the side on opening day this season. The 2 we have signed feel like squad signings (especially De Neve) and I wouldnt be surprised to see a bit of a wait before anyone else comes in. The only change to that IMO would be if any of Brittain/Travis/Tronstad leave beforehand. I feel like our main 11 will include Hyam, Carter, Brittain and probably Ribeiro, probably Toth in goal, Travis and Tronstad and then Cantwell, Kargbo, sadly Hedges and then Yuki. We will just sign 4 to pad things out, and we do need better squad players but we need more than that and also to improve our main 11. Quote
Waggy76 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: That'll be the 90% business done then by the first week of pre season. Every chanceย 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 38 minutes ago, JHRover said: They're going to do this summer what they planned on doing last summer until Eustace put his foot down and threatened to walk out after only 4 months in the job.ย After that wobble they backed down and allowed him to bring in McFadzean, Batth, Weimann and Cantwell, some much needed British based experience. He also brought Travis back into centre place and vital importance to the team after the Regime had got him out the door to Ipswich and were looking to sell him. Eustace had correctly identified an issue with inexperience when he arrived at the club, they'd been going hell for leather down the track of untried and inexperienced under JDT, and it was going to catch up with us eventually. They'll be happy that they got Eustace out of the way and got compensation for him and his staff (is that our transfer kitty money for the summer?). Now they've got someone in place who is more likely to tolerate 'the plan' (and I use that term loosely for what this lot are doing) they can resume the operation with gusto. So bye bye to those expecting Championship level wages or contracts longer than 2 years, get shut of Eustace's favourites and it's back to the European bargain aisle.ย Agree with most but I donโt think Val is a yes manย Quote
JHRover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Circa 15 goals walking out the door for nothing in Dolan and Weimann.ย Who's filling that void? 4 Quote
DutchRover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) No surprise they can't be bothered to add extra needs to the list, for all we know the 6/7 they mentioned already factored in Batth and Weimann leaving.ย I half expect them to announce Pickering as the new Left Footed CB and Batty as an exciting young option behind Ribeiro at LB. O'Riordan I still have no idea what to think, seems great in L2 but not done much else; have to hope its a S Wharton situation. Atcheson I have heard good things from the academy. Edited 4 hours ago by DutchRover Quote
roversfan99 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Crucially of a team that didnt score enough goals to begin with, that never even as a team came close to filling the Szmodics void and whose attack is the main (on pitch) weakness. We are still 3 attackers light and loads of goals. Badly need a right winger straight for the first team, it always seems to be a debate between people thinking that Hedges is a reasonable squad player or simply not good enough, then he ends uo being a regular. We need someone to compete with Cantwell off the striker, and another proper striker. Ohashi I dont see being prolific but Gueye certainly wont be. Even wide left, we dont really know what we have on our handsย 1 Quote
Rover1984 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Atcheson is highly regarded at his age level,Still a couple of years off making a statement. OโRiordan needs a league 1 loan this season even if itโs 6 months to see if he can cope with the level. At the time being we are an injury away from relying on Wharton to step in and after how long heโs been out no doubt be prone to niggles at the start. Definitely need another CB to come in, At least the spine of the team is sorted going in to the season if both Travis and Tronstad stay. If any of the latter go and we donโt sign a CB we have no spine and I would fear the worst 2 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Based on that article: We wanted to sign a left sided CB and for Batth to stay but now weโd be happy with signing the first but relying on a youngster in place of the latter. A right winger is a priority so Weinmann not staying doesnโt alter our plans. Re the first - presumably the club are happy for our defence to be weakened then - if not why, does it appear weโre not pursuing a Batth replacement? Re the second - if Weinmann leaving doesnโt alter our plans what were we going to do with him if he stayed?? Everyday there are more questions than answers.ย ย ย ย Edited 3 hours ago by wilsdenrover 2 Quote
Rover1984 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Based on that article: We wanted to sign a left sided CB and for Batth to stay but now weโd be happy with signing the first but relying on a youngster in place of the latter. A right winger is a priority so Weinmann not staying doesnโt alter our plans. Re the first - presumably the club are happy for our defence to be weakened then - if not why, does it appear weโre not pursuing a Batth replacement? Re the second - if Weinmann leaving doesnโt alter our plans what were we going to do with him if he stayed?? Everyday there are more questions than answers.ย ย ย ย They usually state that We donโt want to block the pathway for the youthย 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, Rover1984 said: They usually state that We donโt want to block the pathway for the youthย Iโd forgotten that one! We canโt be blocking those (dare I say cheaper) youngsters with better, more experienced players can we.ย ย 1 Quote
Torgeir Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Batth played a bigger role than expected with Hayden Carter injured more often than not. RCB we have Hyam and Carter, and LCB we have <new signing> plus S. Wharton as backup, with Pickering and youngster being able to slot it.ย While Batth had a great season and was a contenter for player of the season, I wouldn't offer him a two-year deal.ย ย We have plenty of experienced players in the squad, and hopefully the ones left have learned a lot from Batth.ย Quote
Tugayisgod Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Torgeir said: Batth played a bigger role than expected with Hayden Carter injured more often than not. RCB we have Hyam and Carter, and LCB we have <new signing> plus S. Wharton as backup, with Pickering and youngster being able to slot it.ย While Batth had a great season and was a contenter for player of the season, I wouldn't offer him a two-year deal.ย ย We have plenty of experienced players in the squad, and hopefully the ones left have learned a lot from Batth.ย Just wondering with Batty now looking like staying, whether they are considering Pickering as a left CB option. That would leave the new signing (whoever that may be), Wharton and Pickering as left sided , with Hyam, Carter, Atchison and O'Riordan on the opposite side Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Iโve no particular issue with four senior centre backs and then relying on youngsters. It was the club who suggested (by seeking a left footed CB and to retain Batth) they didnโt think four isย enough. ย Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago All going as predicted so far.ย Linked to players we can't afford.ย We laughed at the 90 percent of players signed by pre season -and right we were. Baath/Weinman gone Dolan as good as gone Forshaw back in... quelle surprise.ย Two cheap Euro signings in.ย No contract renewals in sight for Travis, Brittain, Tronstadt or Hyam. ย I'd say its going exactly as most of us envisaged.ย 7 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: All going as predicted so far.ย Linked to players we can't afford.ย We laughed at the 90 percent of players signed by pre season -and right we were. Baath/Weinman gone Dolan as good as gone Forshaw back in... quelle surprise.ย Two cheap Euro signings in.ย No contract renewals in sight for Travis, Brittain, Tronstadt or Hyam. ย I'd say its going exactly as most of us envisaged.ย Itโs not our first rodeo. ย 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago New signing ย ย ย ย ย in the medical department ๐ย Quote
Torgeir Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said: Just wondering with Batty now looking like staying, whether they are considering Pickering as a left CB option. That would leave the new signing (whoever that may be), Wharton and Pickering as left sided , with Hyam, Carter, Atchison and O'Riordan on the opposite side No way Pickering can play LCB when we play two CBโs.ย Quote
FE123 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Looks like Steve Kapaudi is the left sided centre back they are focusing their attention on, with the stumbling block being Legia owe a 35% sell on.ย 6 foot 5 french born Congolese international, spent his entire career in Eastern Europe. Scored in Legia Warsawโs 2-1 win over Chelsea last season. Being reported by a Polish journo on Xโฆ Quote
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