RevidgeBlue Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, DutchRover said: The 12 year old south African kid Seems odd we can get a decentish fee for a 12 year old kid but only minimal compensation for a 17 year old who's been through the Academy. 2 Quote
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KentExile Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: who`s been sold to chelsea,please enlighten me Β 9 minutes ago, DutchRover said: The 12 year old south African kid Camden Schaper Quote
Backroom Tom Posted 12 hours ago Backroom Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mike E said: Absolutely top notch referenceΒ An amazing episode of television as wellΒ 1 Quote
ObiWhan8t7 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Neal said: Our net spend is in the green by my calculations, or at least breaking even. Obviously we don't know the undisclosed fee's but you can make a guesstimation.Β Sales: JRC: 750-1m Kid to Chelsea- 1m Dolan- 270k Sales = 2.27m Β Buys: De Neve: 300k (maybe less) Mcgloughlin 500k Alebiousu 500k (maybe less) Tavares Probably 750k (2 million is absolute bullshit) Β Between 2 & 2.25m Β Give or take the sales and buys tally and correlate to a spend what you bring in plan.Β Β So in my opinion, we've spent absolutely fuck all so far, depends on how gullible you are about the Tavares fee.Β Β And let's not forget, there are still players likely or who could possibly leave, Buckley, Brittain, Trav, Tronstad.Β Β I guarantee, we'll be in the green by the end of the transfer window.Β Not sure if itβs been payed up yet but could add Finneran compo and Talalovic sell on clause to funds brought inΒ Quote
KentExile Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, ObiWhan8t7 said: Not sure if itβs been payed up yet but could add Finneran compo and Talalovic sell on clause to funds brought inΒ Wherever that is due, it will be at most Β£100K up front, the vast majority will be future fees, add ons, sell ons etc Edited 12 hours ago by KentExile Quote
ObiWhan8t7 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Seen a picture in another group of what looks like Brittain heading home early from Spain. Rumours of Rudy left similar time as well. Is he on the move or is he extending his contract. I know some players travel back separately after games but after a tour Iβm not so sure Quote
ObiWhan8t7 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, KentExile said: That will be at most Β£100K up front, the vast majority will be future fees, add ons, sell ons etc Positive the Samir transfer netted us a few hundred k Quote
roversfan99 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Could we see the picture please. The players are coming home today so wouldnt make much sense. Boro might come into some money soon though with Hackney and Van Den Berg strongly linked away. Quote
KentExile Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, ObiWhan8t7 said: Positive the Samir transfer netted us a few hundred k Amended my initial post, I was referring purely to Finnerans coimpo You are right on Telalovic, about Β£300K apparently Β Edited 11 hours ago by KentExile 2 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 50 minutes ago, 47er said: You've said this before but the MB is open for all to comment on any post. I've made a single mild comment essentially hoping you won't continue to drag it down as you have been.Β If dragging it down is challenging another posters views then I think everybody is doing it one way or another so again please just scroll on past.Β Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 27 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Seems odd we can get a decentish fee for a 12 year old kid but only minimal compensation for a 17 year old who's been through the Academy. i find it a bit disturbing and foolish thats clubs are paying that much money for a 12 yr old,who knows how he`ll turn out once he discovers girls,lager and other distractionsπ 1 Quote
bluebruce Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 31 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Seems odd we can get a decentish fee for a 12 year old kid but only minimal compensation for a 17 year old who's been through the Academy. 13 I believe. But still. Quote
bluebruce Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: i find it a bit disturbing and foolish thats clubs are paying that much money for a 12 yr old,who knows how he`ll turn out once he discovers girls,lager and other distractionsπ It's nothing to a club like Chelsea. Sure I heard the other day they've spent something like 2 billion in the last few years!. If they signed 20 kids like this it would still be a drop in the ocean, and if one turns into a superstar it's an absolute bargain. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, bluebruce said: It's nothing to a club like Chelsea. Sure I heard the other day they've spent something like 2 billion in the last few years!. If they signed 20 kids like this it would still be a drop in the ocean, and if one turns into a superstar it's an absolute bargain. aye and the rest that don`t meet the grade are discarded like an empty pizza box,thereΒ should have some after care for those that don`t make it,get them learning a trade or get them a coaching badge,i know a lot of the young players establish themselves in the lower leagues but there are always a lot that just drift out of the game and don`t have anything they can turn to 1 Quote
M_B Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 56 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: How can he be "clearly better" than he showed last season? He's probably exactly as good as he showed last season. I.e. not very. I suppose we'll find out.Β Quote
Paul Mani Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I think if Montgomery is going to make it as far as the first team is concerned itβll be in midfield. He is actually a CM tbf. As in thatβs his natural position. 1 Quote
alexanders Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: But equally, you dont want to be too reliant on them to the point where a couple of injuries in certain positions and they are all needed together. We dont know how ready they are in terms of a footballing perspective of being able to play Championship football but moreso how they could cope physically if needed to play consecutive games. Also, if we bank on more than a couple coming through at once, its unrealistic. They wont all be ready at the same time. You donβt want to be reliant, but you canβt fill your squad with loanees and old players just in case.Β its a risk and you never know if they really are up to it unless given a chance. How many times hasnt players really found there place and stood out because of injuries on the first XI.Β Edited 11 hours ago by alexanders Quote
Paul Mani Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: I'll counter that and ask what Cantwell brings? What's he good at?Β Doesn't score, doesn't assist, slow, struggles to cross, can't hit a dead ball. All whilst being out alleged top earner. I donβt see Cantwell as a #10. He doesnβt assist regularly enough, or have the composure in front of goal to score regularly. I think Cantwell βassists the assistβ more often than not. Heβs very good technically and I think he would play best deeper as part of a midfield three, alongside Trav with Sonny sat slightly behind. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 44 minutes ago, alexanders said: You donβt want to be reliant, but you canβt fill your squad with loanees and old players just in case.Β its a risk and you never know if they really are up to it unless given a chance. How many times hasnt players really found there place and stood out because of injuries on the first XI.Β Its a long season though, it feels different in pre season when basically everyone is fit. You need more bodies (and quality) to get through the whole slog of a season. And it doesnt have to "block pathways." A great example is Travis. We had a number of senior midfielders and he was on the fringes initially. He got his chance, took it and stayed in the team, never mind the squad. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: I donβt see Cantwell as a #10. He doesnβt assist regularly enough, or have the composure in front of goal to score regularly. I think Cantwell βassists the assistβ more often than not. Heβs very good technically and I think he would play best deeper as part of a midfield three, alongside Trav with Sonny sat slightly behind. He got 7 assists last season which was the highest in the squad. And that was in a poor personal season where he never really got over not having a full pre season, and in a squad that had no pace running in behind. He has always played either as a number 10 or from the left in his career. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I dont usually like the mentality of signing 1 player to play 2 positions. It doesnt solve the issue of not having enough players, that player cant play 2 positions at the same time. But considering we are signing at most 3 players. I wonder if someone like Triantis at Sunderland who we were linked with would be ideal. Not necessarily endorsing him as I havent seen very much of him, but someone similar. Hibs fans absolutely love him. Hes a midfielder who really impressed but I think he signed for Sunderland as a centre back, although I may be wrong. At centre back, Hyam is rightfully an automatic pick, obviously we have 2 on the left, so someone like Triantis could provide a 5th option if needed whilst also predominantly pushing/eventually replacing Travis or Tronstad. Might be out of range financially but more an example of that type of player to ensure that we can bring in at least 2 attackers. Rather than chasing someone with an injury. Quote
lraC Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, bluebruce said: 13 I believe. But still. Thatβs unluckyΒ Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 32 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I dont usually like the mentality of signing 1 player to play 2 positions. It doesnt solve the issue of not having enough players, that player cant play 2 positions at the same time. But considering we are signing at most 3 players. I wonder if someone like Triantis at Sunderland who we were linked with would be ideal. Not necessarily endorsing him as I havent seen very much of him, but someone similar. Hibs fans absolutely love him. Hes a midfielder who really impressed but I think he signed for Sunderland as a centre back, although I may be wrong. At centre back, Hyam is rightfully an automatic pick, obviously we have 2 on the left, so someone like Triantis could provide a 5th option if needed whilst also predominantly pushing/eventually replacing Travis or Tronstad. Might be out of range financially but more an example of that type of player to ensure that we can bring in at least 2 attackers. Rather than chasing someone with an injury. Good shout played 45mins for Sunderland last week came on for BallardΒ Not in todayβs squadΒ Quote
bluebruce Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 19 minutes ago, lraC said: Thatβs unluckyΒ For some. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Good shout played 45mins for Sunderland last week came on for BallardΒ Not in todayβs squadΒ I think he definitely will become surplus to requirements. Theyve signed 2 midfielders, are intent on Xhaka and already have Neil, Rigg, Le Fee, even Alan Browne. But he will have had a pay increase upon promotion and also seems to have a lot of interest.Β 1 Quote
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