2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, unleaded said:

Well it can’t have been that bad .. Germain got called up to the National Japanese Squad and scored 4 goals on his debut … First ever To do that in the history of Japanese football has a record of 5 in 3 for national …. Just to get into the national team is enough these days ….. Japanese players are being sold & bought for £10 to 15 average ….. We missed the boat as Eustace wanted some big old  lump probably one of his old pals …… 

That competition isn’t for the full Japan national team 

[47er]

9 hours ago, islander200 said:

I never said that no idea why I'm quoted as saying it, I was responding to a post by RF99 where that was said 

My mistake, sorry and I've deleted.

[islander200]

50 minutes ago, 47er said:

My mistake, sorry and I've deleted.

No problem 47er

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, unleaded said:

Well it can’t have been that bad .. Germain got called up to the National Japanese Squad and scored 4 goals on his debut … First ever To do that in the history of Japanese football has a record of 5 in 3 for national …. Just to get into the national team is enough these days ….. Japanese players are being sold & bought for £10 to 15 average ….. We missed the boat as Eustace wanted some big old  lump probably one of his old pals …… 

As mentioned, it wasnt the full Japan team and was against Hong Kong.

Based on his goal record at his new team, it was very much a brief half season good spell and at 30 years old, he probably wouldnt have made it at this level. Not that we should specifically be targetting Japanese players using some sort of logic that they carry a specific premium in terms of value.

Your posts seem very pro Gestede and you always seem very keen to criticise the methods of Eustace where possible. His methods seem to work very well in terms of getting results.

Hopefully Gestede signing all these exotic names does lead to better results but he still hasnt managed to figure out contract extensions.

Edited 7 hours ago by roversfan99

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, M_B said:

Nothing has changed ?

When was the last time we sold someone in the last year of his contract  who wouldn't sign for £3 million ? 

Armstrong? For 5x that amount.

Our inability to extend contracts still continues to undermine us and will do so until something changes.

[JCRovers]

1 hour ago, M_B said:

It's been going on ages, which is what I think Ismael was suggesting.

The Britain sale bucked the trend, as does the length of contracts for the new arrivals.

We also have a new head coach, why would he want to renew the contract of a player he doesn't want ?

 

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25326841.blackburn-rovers-stance-brittain-middlesbrough-bid/

Above link is from LT posted on July 19th. Ismael states clearly in the article that he wants Brittain to stay and that he's important to him from a personal standpoint given they worked together previously at Barnsley. 

This is a serious problem that the club currently has and it doesn't go away by signing new players. Whilst I agree that we should cash in on players rather than having them leave on a free, it would be a lot better for the club from a tactical perspective to make important players sign new contracts and continue working with them to improve team cohesion and understanding on the pitch.

We have had key players who would rather sign for Championship rivals than to extend their contract with us (Batth, Brittain, Lenihan etc.). If we can't keep hold of these types of players, then you're likely having to break up your squad building every 2-3 years and basically start from scratch with a new set of players coming in at a, presumably, lower quality compared to those who left. Not to mention spending fair amount of time and effort to make them understand their new roles and what is required of them in the different phases of a game.

We should be fighting tooth and nail to stop other Championship clubs from getting stronger by taking some of our best players but we aren't. There's no foresight, no vision, and we keep changing the 'project' together with managers/head coaches because they feel that they can't take the team any further whenever the 'funding' stops.

[yankfan]

3 hours ago, alexanders said:

isn’t Axel meant to be a right sided midfielder

meaning we could line up like this 

trav - tronny

axel - Cantwell - de neve 

Ohashi

Seems to prefer a more central role than an out right winger, still right side and would be a great fit if we have a right wing back behind him

Edited 6 hours ago by yankfan

[alexanders]

3 hours ago, yankfan said:

Seems to prefer a more central role than an out right winger, still right side and would be a great fit if we have a right wing back behind him

Watched a bit of the highlights against NEC and especially Hedges positioning. Also seen highlights from Axel in GAIS. 
He could/would slot right in Hedges place in the XI. 
His attributes is quite similar to hedges just better hopefully. Defensive work, engine. Not a tricky and pacy winger. 
Ismael doesn’t seem to want that. 

[philipl]

28 minutes ago, alexanders said:

Watched a bit of the highlights against NEC and especially Hedges positioning. Also seen highlights from Axel in GAIS. 
He could/would slot right in Hedges place in the XI. 
His attributes is quite similar to hedges just better hopefully. Defensive work, engine. Not a tricky and pacy winger. 
Ismael doesn’t seem to want that. 

That is my reading also for what its worth. 

I think we are getting strength in depth for once so come the January horrors the XI we put out doesn't drop off precipitously.

We have still got 20+ days to the "can anyone find that fax machine?" moment and the PL has shipped very few players out on loan yet. I would be feeling OKish about this window were it not for Pasha and the Venky's capacity for screw up/sabotage...

Brittain's valedictory confirms all the worst fears that the club hasn't learned from being sacked by JDT and JE.

[KentExile]

7 hours ago, unleaded said:

Well it can’t have been that bad .. Germain got called up to the National Japanese Squad and scored 4 goals on his debut … First ever To do that in the history of Japanese football has a record of 5 in 3 for national …. Just to get into the national team is enough these days ….. Japanese players are being sold & bought for £10 to 15 average ….. We missed the boat as Eustace wanted some big old  lump probably one of his old pals …… 

Just for context, those debut 4 goals were against Hong Kong, who are rated 147th in the world rankings (below the Faroe Islands but above Moldova for reference).  The other goal he scored was against South Korea, who are decent

But yes, I agree, he cant have been that bad.  Japan are a  reasonably strong national team these days, so for him to be called up,would mean he is likely at least at a certain standard

Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile

[RoyWegerlesLeftToe]

Sorry for the massively pixelated image (stolen from reddit which was stolen from twatter). Although related to Sheffield Wednesday, I thought the looking to buy a "traditional club" comment by John Textor was interesting...

[davulsukur]

Not a chance we'll be spending £2m on a 28/29 year old. We seem to only give contracts out until players are hitting 30, so he'd only be on a 2 year deal at absolute best.

I know fees aren't all paid up front but it's highly unlikely we'd spend that much on a player who would likely leave for nothing in 2 years time.

He must be available for a cut price.

[alexanders]

A farewell from GAIS to Axel: 

Translated to:

This guy is the persona of GAIS. Heart of a warrior, always 100%, tough as nails, full of energy and a gameplay always directed towards attacking goal. 
A strong man, a  bearer of our culture, colors and name. 
Axel Henriksson you are worth every minute and every penny to go to England. You have given us hope, happiness and lust. We thank you a lot for the moments! We will miss you, but don’t forget us. You are always welcome back. 

Not bad..

[KentExile]

22 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Not a chance we'll be spending £2m on a 28/29 year old. We seem to only give contracts out until players are hitting 30, so he'd only be on a 2 year deal at absolute best.

I know fees aren't all paid up front but it's highly unlikely we'd spend that much on a player who would likely leave for nothing in 2 years time.

He must be available for a cut price.

It would certainly seem to go against the grain of what they are trying to do (I could understand it more if his fee was more in the McLoughlin range).  Especially when his injury history is considered

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[BankEnd Rover]

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

As mentioned, it wasnt the full Japan team and was against Hong Kong.

Based on his goal record at his new team, it was very much a brief half season good spell and at 30 years old, he probably wouldnt have made it at this level. Not that we should specifically be targetting Japanese players using some sort of logic that they carry a specific premium in terms of value.

Your posts seem very pro Gestede and you always seem very keen to criticise the methods of Eustace where possible. His methods seem to work very well in terms of getting results.

Hopefully Gestede signing all these exotic names does lead to better results but he still hasnt managed to figure out contract extensions.

Just on your last paragraph. We all know that Gestede has no power on contract negotiations don't we? It's one man's decision and he's the bloke who's cutting the budget probably every year.

Gestede is finding players and even then I imagine it's a challenge to get signed off. 

[KentExile]

24 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Just on your last paragraph. We all know that Gestede has no power on contract negotiations don't we? It's one man's decision and he's the bloke who's cutting the budget probably every year.

Gestede is finding players and even then I imagine it's a challenge to get signed off. 

Agree with all of that, I however also think that Gestede knowingly (I will assume knowingly as, if it is unknowingly then I would question his intellect)  provides himself as a human shield (I imagine its the main portion of any performance review) for the one who is signing off on these decisions & cutting the budget

Edited 34 minutes ago by KentExile

[M_B]

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Armstrong? For 5x that amount.

Our inability to extend contracts still continues to undermine us and will do so until something changes.

Nothing has changed, but we've to go back to Armstrong for a comparison. 

Ismael said he wanted to keep Britain but the club sold him when it was obvious that he wasn't going to sign, I'd say that was the correct thing to do.

As far as the others go, let's see what happens, each one is an individual case. An "inability" to resign them may be an unwillingness, especially with the midfield reinforcements. The player himself may not actually want to sign. 

If  Tronstad, Travis or Hyam resign or are sold before their contracts expire, on top of the Britain sale, would that then suggest to you that things may just be changing? 

[chaddyrovers]

22 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

So the plan is to not even bother trying to tie down our key, proven Championship players. But instead to replace by players abroad for six figure fees.

Suppose it is a plan of sorts.

Isnt it 5 signings. Tavares, McLoughlin, De Neve, Miller, Alebiosu.

Talking transfer not contract renewals. You mixing both in

[Tomphil2]

36 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Just on your last paragraph. We all know that Gestede has no power on contract negotiations don't we? It's one man's decision and he's the bloke who's cutting the budget probably every year.

Gestede is finding players and even then I imagine it's a challenge to get signed off. 

And he's got rid of the other bloke who challenged him !

I suspect it's same as everything else down there, Gestede like Waggot will have license to negotiate a fee/wages up to a certain low level but the final say will still come from high command.

[chaddyrovers]

22 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

Yeah so just rebuilding a team for a new head coach.

I think we need to differentiate here what we mean by 'plan' as in a club plan to reset, invest and aim for something over a 3 year period versus a head coach just planning his team for the next 12 months after being handed half a squad due to exits.

There is one but there certainly isn't the other, who would bet against another coach doing the same thing here by next summer ?

Ismael has 3 years left on his contract so let's hope so but not many head coaches last more 12 months now. Its something I've mentioned the lack of clubs willing to give a head coach a couple of season to build a team. I was shouting down by a few people(not you). 

When Eustace replaced JDT here you were from one way of management/coaching/tactical to Eustace who is very different type of head coach

Ismael has come in wants to play sometime different to Eustace but some ways different 

[chaddyrovers]

23 minutes ago, M_B said:

 

If  Tronstad, Travis or Hyam resign or are sold before their contracts expire, on top of the Britain sale, would that then suggest to you that things may just be changing? 

I always thought @roversfan99was in favour of selling players for fees before their contract. He was in favour of selling Rothwell when he only had 6 months left on his deal and BBD when we were offer 10m by Fulham

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Ismael has 3 years left on his contract so let's hope so but not many head coaches last more 12 months now. Its something I've mentioned the lack of clubs willing to give a head coach a couple of season to build a team. I was shouting down by a few people(not you). 

When Eustace replaced JDT here you were from one way of management/coaching/tactical to Eustace who is very different type of head coach

Ismael has come in wants to play sometime different to Eustace but some ways different 

When Broughton was here part of the ‘plan’ was to have a seamless transition upon any change of head coach.

I presume that would have included ensuring any new manager had as similar as possible philosophy/style to the one he was replacing.

That idea soon went out the window.

 

[Ricceh]

1 hour ago, RoyWegerlesLeftToe said:

Sorry for the massively pixelated image (stolen from reddit which was stolen from twatter). Although related to Sheffield Wednesday, I thought the looking to buy a "traditional club" comment by John Textor was interesting...

I can't believe I am saying this, but Textor would be 1 million times worse than our current situation, considering his financial mismanagement nearly forced Ligue 1 to relegate Lyon, and hes most likely losing control of Eagle. 

Not really the thread to discuss it so apologies to the mods. 

[Tomphil2]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Ismael has 3 years left on his contract so let's hope so but not many head coaches last more 12 months now. Its something I've mentioned the lack of clubs willing to give a head coach a couple of season to build a team. I was shouting down by a few people(not you). 

When Eustace replaced JDT here you were from one way of management/coaching/tactical to Eustace who is very different type of head coach

Ismael has come in wants to play sometime different to Eustace but some ways different 

Yeah if there was a complaint to be made towards JDT and Eustace it was they lacked flexibility, certainly JDT did and Eustace was often reluctant to change.

Maybe Ismael will mix it up a bit more according to opposition.

[M_B]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I always thought @roversfan99was in favour of selling players for fees before their contract. He was in favour of selling Rothwell when he only had 6 months left on his deal and BBD when we were offer 10m by Fulham

It is sometimes the right thing to do obviously, but as it is now with all the power being with the players it can be a complicated situation .