OsloRover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 31 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said: Miyoshi is an established Championship player. I am struggling to see how his wage demands would be lower than Brittain, Travis or Tronstad? Probably happy to retain his wages and not get them cut by relegation Quote
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Irish_Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Mercer said: IMO, it's just to hide the true cost so the club through the media can then over-egg and over-hype the transfer fees so the gullible in our fan base think we are really splashing the cash. It also allows them the chance to come out with nonsense PR statements about βsignificant investmentβ when we all know itβs total garbage. You can be certain itβs not in the best interests of the fans anyway 1 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, OsloRover said: Probably happy to retain his wages and not get them cut by relegation My point it when he got the budasliga move he will be paid around the same that Travis and Tronstad want I assume. I would be surprised if he wants substantially less than they do. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, JBiz said: I think there are tiers of βestablished championship playersβ personally. Looking at those three outside inwardly, without the knowledge of our backroom, you would easily argue that theyβre all established top half experienced players, two out of three still young (and therefore more valuable!) The lad from Germanyβs last experience was relegation with Brum I think? Oh and then relegation in Germany too πΒ Β Relegation specialist you say? Well some posters think that's exactly what our owners want, so maybe they'll push the boat out for him... 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, joey_big_nose said: My point it when he got the budasliga move he will be paid around the same that Travis and Tronstad want I assume. I would be surprised if he wants substantially less than they do. It might not even be as deep as that.Β How strong is the Yen these days? How far does Β£10k a week get you in Japan? I've been to Scandinavian and it's bloody expensive, so Tronstad wanting more makes sense. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Irish_Rover said: It also allows them the chance to come out with nonsense PR statements about βsignificant investmentβ when we all know itβs total garbage. You can be certain itβs not in the best interests of the fans anyway It happens for pretty much all clubs not sure why βundisclosed feesβ is something thatβs thrown at rovers solely. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Tugayisgod said: Funny how foreign fans seem to bear no animosity to players leaving their club, wishing them all the best. Yet over here they are regarded somehow as traitors for daring to leave for new challenges. Maybe it's just the British mentality. I think a lot depends on how you leave the Club. Has the player forced a move or are his Club selling him to raise funds? I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to get out of here ASAP at the moment but in normal times or at a normal Club if a player deliberately runs down his contract just so he can earn a bit more dosh I think he deserves all the derision coming his way. If however he leaves for a Club in a higher Division and a lot more money and the Club get a proper fee then there's no real room for resentment. However I don't particularly see the need to blow him kisses and wish him well at his new Club etc. you can still reserve the right to be disappointed and at the end of the day, every other Club is your enemy. Edited 3 hours ago by RevidgeBlue Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) The more I think about Miyoshi I just don't see it happening. The fee will surely put them off for a 28 year old. I do wonder if Nixon has just plucked one because he was getting fed up of everyone asking him "who the winger is" on social media. Edited 2 hours ago by MarkBRFC 2 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said: My point it when he got the budasliga move he will be paid around the same that Travis and Tronstad want I assume. I would be surprised if he wants substantially less than they do. Iβd say heβs on around the 10k per week salaryΒ Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: The more I think about Miyoshi I just don't see it happening. The fee will surely put them off for a 28 year old. I do wonder if Nixon has just plucked one because he was getting fed up of everyone asking him "who the winger" is on social media. I donβt think the 2million will be paid up front itl be stacked with add onsΒ A lot seem to be talking about age 28 is a nice age I donβt see the problem with it (all signings cannot be with resale value) but I agree on the Nixon from Β the could be well off itΒ 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Iβd say heβs on around the 10k per week salaryΒ Following his relegation wage reduction, he might possibly be at that level If he wants to maintain his earnings from last season, Rovers will be probably be out of the running Β Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: I donβt think the 2million will be paid up front itl be stacked with add onsΒ A lot seem to be talking about age 28 is a nice age I donβt see the problem with it (all signings cannot be with resale value) but I agree on the Nixon from Β the could be well off itΒ No I agree, 28 is a great age. I don't like the modern trend that every signing needs resale value, you need a good balance in there. I just think the club might see it differently, unless its really cheap like the McLoughlin deal. 2 Quote
Ricky Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I donβt think Miyoshi will be Β£2m. Joined for Β£400k and didnβt play much during another relegation season. I would imagine he has a similar release clause to the one he had at Birmingham. Maybe Β£800k - Β£1m with some add ons. 3 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: No I agree, 28 is a great age. I don't like the modern trend that every signing needs resale value, you need a good balance in there. I just think the club might see it differently, unless its really cheap like the McLoughlin deal. Yes agreed 100% itβs why I think the 2million touted by Nixon is likely to be falseΒ 3 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, KentExile said: Following his relegation wage reduction, he might possibly be at that level If he wants to maintain his earnings from last season, Rovers will be probably be out of the running Β But if he wants out then he may accept I donβt think he would have been on much more tbhΒ Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ricky said: I donβt think Miyoshi will be Β£2m. Joined for Β£400k and didnβt play much during another relegation season. I would imagine he has a similar release clause to the one he had at Birmingham. Maybe Β£800k - Β£1m with some add ons. He was bought for Β£1.2m from Japan 4 years ago.Β He left Birmingham for Β£400k on a relegation release clause (signed on a free). His agent will have inserted a relegation release clause into his contract. There's no way we're paying Β£2m for him from a relegated side that only played him 15 times last year. 3 Quote
bluebruce Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, KentExile said: With the exception of free transfers, every player that everyone signs is for an undisclosed fee Personally I'm sick of it and think they should force clubs to reveal the terms of deals. The fans deserve to know if money is being spent wisely. 9 Quote
rob_of_the_rovers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Ricky said: I donβt think Miyoshi will be Β£2m. Joined for Β£400k and didnβt play much during another relegation season. I would imagine he has a similar release clause to the one he had at Birmingham. Maybe Β£800k - Β£1m with some add ons. Not sure there would be a relegation clause, there's a difference between league one and 2.Bundesliga Quote
KentExile Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, bluebruce said: Personally I'm sick of it and think they should force clubs to reveal the terms of deals. The fans deserve to know if money is being spent wisely. Completely agree, At a bare minimum, they should have to publish what the guaranteed amount is, along with possible maximum amount, & sell on % Also think the same should apply for player wages (as far as it can) Probably restricted in that can't legally force clubs to disclose individual player wages/bonuses etc, I imagine that would infringe data protection or similar of the individual players.Β But it could be possible for them to be "forced" to publish an amalgamated basic wage amount etc (accounts currently only have to show a wage for all club staff including directors, tea ladies etc) Edited 26 minutes ago by KentExile 2 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, KentExile said: Completely agree, At a bare minimum, they should have to publish what the guaranteed amount is, along with possible maximum amount, & with sell % Also think the same should apply for player wages (as far as it can) Probably restricted in that can't legally force clubs to disclose individual player wages/bonuses etc, I imagine that would infringe data protection or similar of the individual players.Β But it could be possible for them to be "forced" to publish an amalgamated basic wage amount etc (accounts currently show a wage for all club staff including directors, tea ladies etc) They're more than happy to share salaries in the NFL / MLB etc. 1 Quote
KentExile Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: They're more than happy to share salaries in the NFL / MLB etc. If that's the case (I have no idea so will accept you at your word), and it is legally possible to do so in the UK/Europe, then I would love to see it in football here too Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile 1 Quote
RoqueSantaBlues Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago American sports have the salary cap which is why those details are available. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Β 1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said: The more I think about Miyoshi I just don't see it happening. The fee will surely put them off for a 28 year old. I do wonder if Nixon has just plucked one because he was getting fed up of everyone asking him "who the winger is" on social media. No this story is true, @unleadedΒ confirmed our interest in him.Β Down to Rovers getting it sort and hopefully we are doing that, think he would be smart signing and good player for us 24 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: They're more than happy to share salaries in the NFL / MLB etc. cos they have salary caps in NBA and you find the key players on more than a squad player.Β 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said: The more I think about Miyoshi I just don't see it happening. The fee will surely put them off for a 28 year old. I do wonder if Nixon has just plucked one because he was getting fed up of everyone asking him "who the winger is" on social media. The only thing that makes me think there was something in it was unleaded said it was expected to happen two years ago but it all went quiet.Β If it's been stalled for 2 weeks I dont see it happening but hypothetically at 28 I dont see the players age as an issue especially if he is good technically and not solely reliantΒ on pace. Nor should the fee be an obstacle bearing in mind much of the headline figure will consist of add ons (if met) and the rest is payable in installments. I know you're not knocking it yourself and are only giving reasons why the Club may turn their nose up at it but Im not sure why a few are complaining about the fee - it's not their own money they're spending! 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: You should, but why can we not agree new deals with any of our important players? Unless I am in the room how would we know. You act and posted like everything is Rovers fault but isn't the case. Some players will want and stay, some will move on cos they want a new challenge, some want more money than what we want to pay so move on or a middle ground can be found and agree terms.Β But you know all this RF99 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Because they go hand in hand in terms of building a squad. My point was about the transfer business and us signing players that fitted in Ismael's profile of playerΒ Quote
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