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47 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

ACD always had something about him it was obvious when he first came here but he lost his way the Championship was too soon for him.

He's another year fitter, older, stronger now we'll see this all the time when taking those kinds of loans because WE ARE A DEVELOPMENT club.Β  Just seems maybe more focus is now going on developing our own instead of other peoples.

Brighton probably got ACD's loans the wrong way around he should have been in league 1 first but no surprise to me to see him doing well.

Like Markanday, he's found his level.

As for the development loans - that's the pond we fish in. We're unwilling to pay for the more highly sought after loanees (who are earmarked as better / further along in their development) so we get the cheap ones like ACD, Clarkson, Mola et al - the ones PL clubs have little hope for, but are willing to see what they've got playing men's football.

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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Like Markanday, he's found his level.

As for the development loans - that's the pond we fish in. We're unwilling to pay for the more highly sought after loanees (who are earmarked as better / further along in their development) so we get the cheap ones like ACD, Clarkson, Mola et al - the ones PL clubs have little hope for, but are willing to see what they've got playing men's football.

Not this season....yet.

By the way i think ACD will turn out a lot better than Markanday but we'll see.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The annoying thing about Hedges is that he's not shite, technically.

Like they can't just all sigh when he turns up at training because he can't trap a bag of cement. I bet he's half decent at the drills.

His brain just shuts down when he gets into the final third on match days.

I've always maintained that Hedges has a bunch of attributes that should make him a very good footballer... but for some reason, he just isn't.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

I've always maintained that Hedges has a bunch of attributes that should make him a very good footballer... but for some reason, he just isn't.

I think he'd be a great L1 LWB.

Posted
9 hours ago, neophox said:

Surely E Dennis is available on loan. Hasnt been included in games for Forest. Would you take him?

If he PAID us Β£20k a week to play for us for the next year I'd be hesitant to take him.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

I've always maintained that Hedges has a bunch of attributes that should make him a very good footballer... but for some reason, he just isn't.

Like what. In a winger I look for real pace, has he got a trick or two, is he two footed, is he a threat in the air, is he a nasty bastard to play against, does he demand the ball ? Β I couldn’t see any of those attributes in Hedges when I first saw him play and nothing has changed subsequently.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Alan Nixon goes out of his way to gaslight Rovers fans whenever an opportunity arises.

He's a fud and a dud.

He once spent weeks on here teasing a striker pre-Venkys, what a masterstroke superstar signing it was going to be. It was Franco DiFuckingSanto on loan…

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Posted

Hedges' deficiencies are less obvious when he's got a decent team around him, simply because he works hard and therefore looks like he's contributing. When he's increasingly surrounded by limited players then it becomes more obvious that he's not much use.

He was brought in initially as a cheap option to come off the bench. The fact he's now a starter is emblematic of our on pitch decline.Β 

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Posted

Feel sorry for Travis after reading that. Loyal servant. But if Derby are offering life changing money to him, then they shouldn't chuck Β£1.5m at Rovers.Β 

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Posted
33 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So is that Β£30k a week offer for Travis from Derby?

Cos if so, bloody hell.

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26 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Comedy stuff from Jackson again today.

So Travis wants to do Rovers a favour by going now rather than next summer so that we receive a fee?

Jackson reckons Ismael is open, honest and 'an open book' - says who? Who gives Ismael his information? That's right, the liars upstairs.Β 

Unsurprisingly that ridiculous claim/admission from Ismael - unnecessary and unprompted - has gone down badly with Travis - it has made his future untenable which is EXACTLY what the the regime have wanted - they want him gone and they want the blame piling on the player and Derby and not themselves.

I am however glad that Jackson is acknowledging for the first time that the 'party line' from Rovers - that they've made him a good offer to commit - might not actually be the truth and that other parties suggest there has never been a formal offer made (which is what I believe and the evidence seems to suggest).

Jackson thinks that the above becomes 'a debate over semantics' - I disagree. If the truth of the matter is - as I suspect - that the player hasn't even been given a proper offer to stay - then this needs making clear to the paying public and the deluded brigade need to swallow their medicine and learn their lessons not to trust a word this regime comes out with ever again.

The money offered by Derby described as 'life changing' by both sides - if you want a sentence that displays what these people have done to this club then there it is. Of course this suits Rovers again because they can make out like we were never in any position to keep him up against such 'resources' (actually Derby aren't wealthy and have brought in less than we have in the last 3-4 years).

That is a lie because they could have made offers during last season and didn't, which is why Travis confirmed this publicly in March and why Eustace walked out.Β 

Ismael is either an idiot or is complicit in the shenanigans for his comments after the last two games.

Also did make me chuckle that Jackson wrote

"There are also reservations about the direction in which Rovers are travelling with fears over 'managed decline', as described by one source."

I wonder if his source on this one, is multipleΒ  people on this forum?

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So is that Β£30k a week offer for Travis from Derby?

Cos if so, bloody hell.

I keep seeing people say 'doubled his wages' or 'Β£30k'.... as far as I can see the only thing Jackson has mentioned is 'life-changing'.Β  Depends what Trav is on now (let's say Β£15k P/W, which I highly doubt tbh), you'd only have to increase that by 5-10k and I'd say that is pretty life-changing.Β  Potentially an extra Β£2m - Β£2.5m over 5 years.Β 

Once again, one of our key players is leaving for a derisory figure because we just cannot tie down anyone of any use to a contract. Comin up for 2 years (November 2023) since Wharton signed a proper contract extension, and even that was when the club was comfortable in the knowledge that they were going to flog him at the earliest opportunity.Β 

Another gut punch for the fanbase.Β 

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Posted

Β£30k pw for Travis seems a bit extreme for this division. I like Trav and have generally stuck up for him,Β but it's not like he's a PL player stuck in the Championship. He's at the right level, and Β£30k is far north of the wage for a solid if unspectalur Championship midfielder. Bizarre if true - even if Derby can afford to offer him that, it would presumably massively unbalance their wage structure.Β 

I am dubious on the figure, to say the least.Β 

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Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, DE. said:

Β£30k pw for Travis seems a bit extreme for this division. I like Trav and have generally stuck up for him,Β but it's not like he's a PL player stuck in the Championship. He's at the right level, and Β£30k is far north of the wage for a solid if unspectalur Championship midfielder. Bizarre if true - even if Derby can afford to offer him that, it would presumably massively unbalance their wage structure.Β 

I am dubious on the figure, to say the least.Β 

It will likely be Β£20K - Β£25K basic & the rest in bonuses/appearance fees etc

Which although a ridiculous amount, these are the figures on offer to a seasoned Championship performer from most teams in the division

Matt Grimes for example is on Β£35K/week at CoventryΒ (which will also probably be a basic of circa Β£25K/week, and bonuses making up the rest

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

Where does it say Β£30k??? Have I missed something in Jackson's article?Β 

there were rumours/stories at the weekend that Travis had been offered Β£30K/week by another Championship club

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, KentExile said:

It will likely be Β£20K - Β£25K basic & the rest in bonuses/appearance fees etc

Which although a ridiculous amount, these are the figures on offer to a seasoned Championship performer from most teams in the division

I’d want a β€œ difference maker β€œ for that sort of money. Travis doesn’t fit that bill. I’m thinking of players like Berkovic when he was the final piece of the jigsaw that saw us promoted. He was a β€œ difference maker β€œ.

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Posted

The treatment of Trav has been nothing short of disgraceful, including Ismael's comments following the loss to Bradford.

Venkys out!

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’d want a β€œ difference maker β€œ for that sort of money. Travis doesn’t fit that bill.

What we might want at that sort of money, isn't what you can get... at least not in this country anymore

Id not call Matt Grrimes (Β£35K/week at Coventry) a difference maker either (not saying he isnt good, but he isn't a difference maker)

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