2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roversfan99]

33 minutes ago, M_B said:

He's shown signs of frustration at historic failings.

This is now where we find out if they're all on the same page going forward. It's the reason I've been saying for months that the most important thing at the club is that Ismael and Gestede are aligned in what's happening. 

I dont know why you keep saying "historic failures" when the same idiots are running things.

If Ismael is genuinely happy to see all of our proven Championship quality leave and be replaced by whatever we can pluck from random leagues for under a milion, then he is a bit thick. But more importantly, the removal of quality from our squad becomes more important than whether Ismael is "aligned" with the idea.

With Hyam for example, it isnt historic. We are just choosing not to offer a proper contract. If we did he seemingly would sign.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

jackson writes what he`s told to write,if venkys put out a statement that they are demolishing ewood park ,he would`nt question why

It would be another "exciting opportunity" no doubt.

[islander200]

19 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Do we think they’ve started negotiating with the players who are out of contract in ‘27 yet?

No chance how could we possibly start negotiations now when we won't know what division we will be  in until the end of the 26/27 season ?

 

[JHRover]

5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Before they fell out for whatever reason Travis did have a good first season under JDT.

Perhaps JDT, via Broughton, was instructed that Travis was a 'problem' due to his 'high earner' status and that he would need removing from the team/squad to free up cash. The Ipswich scheme failed because they had little use for him when getting automatic promotion and then he came back just as someone else (Waggott apparently) had appointed Eustace who immediately recognised the value of him and made him central to his plans, together with bringing in other established Championship players.

None of those things fit the 'model' the Regime have had in mind for the last 3-4 years so they were more than happy to get Eustace out, grab the compo and find a coach willing to oversee their plans. 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Nipper1875 said:

Youve named them yet id pick tyjon and leonard before gueye - more chance them 2 scoring 10 than gueye and as for kargbo well someone from u7s can control and run with ball better than that forest gump 

Tyjon and Leonard would get the absolute shit kicked out of them playing as a 9 in the Championship.

[M_B]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont know why you keep saying "historic failures" when the same idiots are running things.

If Ismael is genuinely happy to see all of our proven Championship quality leave and be replaced by whatever we can pluck from random leagues for under a milion, then he is a bit thick. But more importantly, the removal of quality from our squad becomes more important than whether Ismael is "aligned" with the idea.

With Hyam for example, it isnt historic. We are just choosing not to offer a proper contract. If we did he seemingly would sign.

If Ismael knows how much the  club is  willing to offer players going forward, why would  he be annoyed at the club not offering more to keep them? 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont know why you keep saying "historic failures" when the same idiots are running things.

If Ismael is genuinely happy to see all of our proven Championship quality leave and be replaced by whatever we can pluck from random leagues for under a milion, then he is a bit thick. But more importantly, the removal of quality from our squad becomes more important than whether Ismael is "aligned" with the idea.

With Hyam for example, it isnt historic. We are just choosing not to offer a proper contract. If we did he seemingly would sign.

This.

"Historic failures" my arse.

Same owners, same COO.

The only thing that you could possibly say is that it was solely because Waggott was refusing to extend any contracts which I could run with to an extent, but, even if that were the case then following his departure they COULD have rectified these "historic failures" instantly by sorting out the contracts of Dolan/Brittain/Travis/Tronstad/Hyam etc.

They dont or didn't want to. End of story.

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Tyjon and Leonard would get the absolute shit kicked out of them playing as a 9 in the Championship.

leonard is cooked,he`ll never have a consistent run because he`s always injured,shame,.because it think he`s a tidy player who can certainly finish

i thought tyjon did ok on tuesday,he was up against uncompromising players,he does need to bulk up,if he does there is definately a player there

[roversfan99]

9 minutes ago, M_B said:

If Ismael knows how much the  club is  willing to offer players going forward, why would  he be annoyed at the club not offering more to keep them? 

What? Thats like saying if a manager knows that he has £100k transfer budget, how could he be mad that he doesnt have more when he knew they only had £100k.

He has no control over budget. Purely from his perspective, his squad is being made massively weaker because we lack the willingness to finance and the proactivity to offer proper contracts. So we sign inferior crap. If hes on board and fully aligned then hes an idiot.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

34 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Not sure how old you are but the Club didn't start when Jack Walker took over.

We've had managers prior to that who've had to work in far more restricted financial circumstances than VI.

1980 - but most clubs could say that in their entirety so be safer putting some time frame on it no?

[Emerald Isle Rover]

7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

What? Thats like saying if a manager knows that he has £100k transfer budget, how could he be mad that he doesnt have more when he knew they only had £100k.

He has no control over budget. Purely from his perspective, his squad is being made massively weaker because we lack the willingness to finance and the proactivity to offer proper contracts. So we sign inferior crap. If hes on board and fully aligned then hes an idiot.

Happened to JDT happened to Eustace - how he or his agents/reps thought this would be different is beyond me 

[B16Rover]

In the famous slightly abridged words of potentially one of the world's presidents, 

'There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.'

[ROVER_N_OUT1978]

I would love to know what the owners thoughts are, are they totally in the dark as to what's going on here? The fanbase has been decimated the playing squad is a joke and heading for relegation as things stand. The club is rudderless and drifting dangerously. 

@glen9mullan might be able to shed some light on things in Pune?

Is it the case they don't give a flying f

Edited 2 hours ago by ROVER_N_OUT1978

[roversfan99]

11 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

This.

"Historic failures" my arse.

Same owners, same COO.

The only thing that you could possibly say is that it was solely because Waggott was refusing to extend any contracts which I could run with to an extent, but, even if that were the case then following his departure they COULD have rectified these "historic failures" instantly by sorting out the contracts of Dolan/Brittain/Travis/Tronstad/Hyam etc.

They dont or didn't want to. End of story.

We had a number of spells with Waggott here where we did sort new deals. Notably one under Broughton and one under Mowbray.

He clearly was never the reason as it doesnt make sense. It coincides with regular owner cutbacks.

[M_B]

22 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

This.

"Historic failures" my arse.

Same owners, same COO.

The only thing that you could possibly say is that it was solely because Waggott was refusing to extend any contracts which I could run with to an extent, but, even if that were the case then following his departure they COULD have rectified these "historic failures" instantly by sorting out the contracts of Dolan/Brittain/Travis/Tronstad/Hyam etc.

They dont or didn't want to. End of story.

Theres been a need by some to tar Gestede with the Waggott brush ever since he came in. It's obvious to me that Ismael didn't mean Gestede when talking about mistakes in the past but some are adamant he did.

I'm open minded and will judge them both on  results

[roversfan99]

10 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Happened to JDT happened to Eustace - how he or his agents/reps thought this would be different is beyond me 

Maybe they didnt, maybe they expected it. But it still would piss you off when it happens or you at least wouldnt agree with it or actively want it.

[Ossydave]

Just on Travis, told he was openly talking about leaving from the first day of pre season. What baffles me most is we clearly knew this yet continued to play him, his contributions were mainly just picking up bookings as he looked disinterested throughout. Only possibly reason I can think is we asked him to hang on a bit till we sorted a replacement!? I suppose in return he built his match fitness up ready to join his new club. 
 

To be clear, I’m not criticising Travis in all of this, just the cunts at the top. 

[islander200]

3 minutes ago, M_B said:

Theres been a need by some to tar Gestede with the Waggott brush ever since he came in. It's obvious to me that Ismael didn't mean Gestede when talking about mistakes in the past but some are adamant he did.

I'm open minded and will judge them both on  results

Did you listen to the podcasts with Gestede?

Why could Broughton get contracts signed?

Gestede was in position all last season no contract discussions started .Why?

 

[Upside Down]

7 minutes ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said:

I would love to know what the owners thoughts are, are they totally in the dark as to what's going on here? The fanbase has been decimated the playing squad is a joke and heading for relegation as things stand. The club is rudderless and drifting dangerously. 

@glen9mullan might be able to shed some light on things in Pune?

Is it the case they don't give a flying f

You're assuming they have the brain capacity to think.

[RevidgeBlue]

14 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Happened to JDT happened to Eustace - how he or his agents/reps thought this would be different is beyond me 

I'm struggling to see beyond that and the fact that he must be fully on board tbh.

It seems clear to me that the owners have now more or less completely lost interest and washed their hands of us.

The only real interest for people like Pasha/Gestede and VI now unless they're completely thick is how long they can keep the runaway locomotive from careering  off the tracks for and therefore  themselves in lucrative employment.

[islander200]

Just my opinion but I think Gestede wants the older heads out so he can play championship manager with our squad hoping to hit the jackpot with foreign signings and that 1 or 2 of them can be sold for a decent profit.

Sometimes you can just tell and I do not believe this guy has rovers best interests as top of his priority list.

The podcasts he came across as an absolute tool 

But again he is a mere  symptom the owners need outing and then the rest of them will be shown the door 

Edited 2 hours ago by islander200

[Emerald Isle Rover]

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Maybe they didnt, maybe they expected it. But it still would piss you off when it happens or you at least wouldnt agree with it or actively want it.

You wouldn’t actively want it but if theres massive history of it you shouldn’t be surprised. He can be annoyed all he likes and rightly so but I still maintain he either knew of the situation or should have known of the history of the club.

[M_B]

20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

What? Thats like saying if a manager knows that he has £100k transfer budget, how could he be mad that he doesnt have more when he knew they only had £100k.

He has no control over budget. Purely from his perspective, his squad is being made massively weaker because we lack the willingness to finance and the proactivity to offer proper contracts. So we sign inferior crap. If hes on board and fully aligned then hes an idiot.

 You're painting the same scenario as the past managers, you'll be wanting jokes about the bus next, how did that end?

I've no idea if they know what they're doing, I just hope they do.

There will be disagreements,there have to be, but if they're not together in general, and stick to agreed boundaries, it definitely won't work. 

[Salgados Hair]

21 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

In the famous slightly abridged words of potentially one of the world's presidents, 

'There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.'

and cue Neil Young - Rocking In The Free World.. 🙂

[Andy]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Just my opinion but I think Gestede wants the older heads out so he can play championship manager with our squad hoping to hit the jackpot with foreign signings and that 1 or 2 of them can be sold for a decent profit.

Sometimes you can just tell and I do not believe this guy has rovers best interests as top of his priority list.

The podcasts he came across as an absolute tool 

But again he is a mere  symptom the owners need outing and then the rest of them will be shown the door 

Yeah, we are literally his work experience.

Nothing more and the consequences of his inexperience and incompetence is something he'll walk away from, at some point.