2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[JamieUK]

Saw much more from Leo Duru in less games last year than Montgomery has shown at the end of last season and this. He's also played more games at a higher level. Would rather have him around and loan KM for more experience.

But, he's not 6 foot and can't cover 2 positions so less value...

[roversfan99]

Just now, M_B said:

 You're painting the same scenario as the past managers, you'll be wanting jokes about the bus next, how did that end?

I've no idea if they know what they're doing, I just hope they do.

There will be disagreements,there have to be, but if they're not together in general, and stick to agreed boundaries, it definitely won't work. 

But it also wont work if we wont offer competitive wages, lose so many proven players simultaneously and replace them with random cheap players from lesser leagues.

They do know what they are doing above Ismael. They are refusing to offer competitive wages, their only focus is cutting costs. But although they know what they are doing, its clearly not to the betterment of the football club.

[davulsukur]

I knew this summer was going to be bad but it's imploding at a catastrophic rate. 

Last time I was this certain of relegation was when Coyle took charge.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

18 minutes ago, M_B said:

Theres been a need by some to tar Gestede with the Waggott brush ever since he came in. It's obvious to me that Ismael didn't mean Gestede when talking about mistakes in the past but some are adamant he did.

I'm open minded and will judge them both on  results

No- one has less time for Waggott than me but do you not think this latest ripping up of everything and starting again from scratch by scouring obscure European Leagues is  solely RG's "bright" idea?

[London blue]

I'm seeing a lot of people espouse complete honesty with no tact as implicitly positive. It's the same in politics; "he says what he feels, he's just so honest."

Imo VI either didn't think about the impact of his answer to the question on Trav or has been briefed to push him out. 

Trav is our captain. The impact on the squad - the majority of which he won't have confided in that he wants to leave - to hear the club captain and cultural leader wants out could be cataclysmic.

We all know how important momentum is in this league and we've turned in two insipid performances. If morale is destroyed among the newer players within a month of joining they don't have a fucking chance.

VI has thrown a grenade and I'm not sure whether it was a slip of the tongue or preordained.

Edited 2 hours ago by London blue

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, London blue said:

I'm seeing a lot of people espouse complete honesty with no tact as implicitly positive. It's the same in politics; "he says what he feels, he's just so honest."

Imo VI either didn't think about the impact of his answer to the question on Trav or has been briefed to push him out. 

Trav is our captain. The impact on the squad - the majority of which he won't confided in that he's wants to leave - to hear the club captain and cultural leader wants our could be cataclysmic.

We all know how important momentum is in this league and we've turned in two insipid performances. If morale is destroyed among the newer players within a month of joining they don't have a fucking chance.

VI has thrown a grenade and I'm not sure whether it was a slip of the tongue or preordained.

I disagree completely all players are out for themselves some will se with as an opportunity to play regularly ie tavares

theres way too much protection of players the same players who are under contract 

if Travis has any balls he will spill the beans when he’s sold but I suspect he will agree to an nda incorporated into his contract as itl suit him financially and publicly 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

7 minutes ago, London blue said:

I'm seeing a lot of people espouse complete honesty with no tact as implicitly positive. It's the same in politics; "he says what he feels, he's just so honest."

Imo VI either didn't think about the impact of his answer to the question on Trav or has been briefed to push him out. 

Trav is our captain. The impact on the squad - the majority of which he won't have confided in that he wants to leave - to hear the club captain and cultural leader wants out could be cataclysmic.

We all know how important momentum is in this league and we've turned in two insipid performances. If morale is destroyed among the newer players within a month of joining they don't have a fucking chance.

VI has thrown a grenade and I'm not sure whether it was a slip of the tongue or preordained.

So you think that the other players wouldn’t have known Travis wanted to leave iuntil Israel said so ? Even the dogs in the street could see he wanted a move

[London blue]

2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I disagree completely all players are out for themselves some will se with as an opportunity to play regularly ie tavares

theres way too much protection of players the same players who are under contract 

if Travis has any balls he will spill the beans when he’s sold but I suspect he will agree to an nda incorporated into his contract as itl suit him financially and publicly 

I understand that sentiment but there are other factors at play - you have to consider the impact of the answer on the team and squad.

And honestly, expecting a player - or anyone for that matter - to risk their income on spilling the beans for little to no benefit is not realistic.

[London blue]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

So you think that the other players wouldn’t have known Travis wanted to leave iuntil Israel said so ? Even the dogs in the street could see he wanted a move

Some of them, yeah.

His closest mates have left, a good few players have just arrived.

I just don't think it was an answer that was helpful to anyone but those that are trying to push Trav out.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, London blue said:

I understand that sentiment but there are other factors at play - you have to consider the impact of the answer on the team and squad.

And honestly, expecting a player - or anyone for that matter - to risk their income on spilling the beans for little to no benefit is not realistic.

That’s why it very rarely happens. There no integrity in pro football and there hasn’t been for decades.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, London blue said:

Some of them, yeah.

His closest mates have left, a good few players have just arrived.

I just don't think it was an answer that was helpful to anyone but those that are trying to push Trav out.

Nobody is pushing him anymore, he’s going.

[London blue]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

That’s why it very rarely happens. There no integrity in pro football and there hasn’t been for decades.

Translate it to any other industry and I think you'd have very similar results.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I haven't actually seen what Ismael said but I'm guessing he DIDN'T say "Trav wants to leave because we won't pay the going rate for Championship players any more".

Lewis Travis asks to leave Blackburn Rovers for Derby County | Lancashire Telegraph

https://x.com/BBCLancsSport/status/1955393284215542020

[London blue]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Nobody is pushing him anymore, he’s going.

He's been pushed, mate. We shipped him on loan and declined to put a contract Infront of him.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 minute ago, London blue said:

Translate it to any other industry and I think you'd have very similar results.

I think it’s pretty bad in sport. Cricket is worse in my opinion. When. I worked in industry we stuck together, we had to,  because we knew if we didn’t we’d get abused by the management.

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Lewis Travis asks to leave Blackburn Rovers for Derby County | Lancashire Telegraph

https://x.com/BBCLancsSport/status/1955393284215542020

You clearly didnt read the message you quoted properly.

[London blue]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I think it’s pretty bad in sport. Cricket is worse in my opinion. When. I worked in industry we stuck together, we had to,  because we knew if we didn’t we’d get abused by the management.

Fair, and I'm not going to suggest that individualism and selfishness isn't more prevalent in football. 

I don't think it's the main factor at play here, though.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

8 minutes ago, London blue said:

I understand that sentiment but there are other factors at play - you have to consider the impact of the answer on the team and squad.

And honestly, expecting a player - or anyone for that matter - to risk their income on spilling the beans for little to no benefit is not realistic.

I’m not expecting him to but with such turnover I also don’t see the impact it will have on the team 

 

[booth]

£1.5m is a joke.

They've made the club into such a toxic place that other clubs know it won't take much to turn a players head.

Give it a couple of days and he'll have gone for an "undisclosed fee".

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Lewis Travis asks to leave Blackburn Rovers for Derby County | Lancashire Telegraph

https://x.com/BBCLancsSport/status/1955393284215542020

Cheers chaddy.

Even if Vi wasn't out of order saying Trav wants to leave (I think he was) surely he is by suggesting he's been offered "double"

Who was it who cracked the joke 

"Attention everyone"

" Operation Trav is a greedy bastard will start in 2 mins"

Many a true word spoken in jest and all that.

[London blue]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I’m not expecting him to but with such turnover I also don’t see the impact it will have on the team 

 

Fair enough fella, a point we don't agree on.

[islander200]

18 minutes ago, London blue said:

I'm seeing a lot of people espouse complete honesty with no tact as implicitly positive. It's the same in politics; "he says what he feels, he's just so honest."

Imo VI either didn't think about the impact of his answer to the question on Trav or has been briefed to push him out. 

Trav is our captain. The impact on the squad - the majority of which he won't have confided in that he wants to leave - to hear the club captain and cultural leader wants out could be cataclysmic.

We all know how important momentum is in this league and we've turned in two insipid performances. If morale is destroyed among the newer players within a month of joining they don't have a fucking chance.

VI has thrown a grenade and I'm not sure whether it was a slip of the tongue or preordained.

He was in a no win situation with the question 

He bats the question away and then Travis ends up at Derby a few days later them some would be saying "Ismael was covering up for regime above, he knew Travis was going "

He is 100% going to go 

[London blue]

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

He was in a no win situation with the question 

He bats the question away and then Travis ends up at Derby a few days later them some would be saying "Ismael was covering up for regime above, he knew Travis was going "

He is 100% going to go 

The party line for any manager in that situation is "things happen quickly in football, he's out player right now" or something to that effect.

There was no need to state Trav wants to leave or Derby are offering to double his money... unless you've been asked to.

[chaddyrovers]

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Are we seeing the pattern in senior players not renewing their contracts yet?

there is clearly a problem renewing contracts of key players but we have a wage structure and budget, You can't break that for one player and if you do then you created problems with other players you want to offer. I would be making Tronstad and Hyam are higher earners and new contract but we should be making them improved offers. 

As Ismael says that Rovers have 

4 hours ago, sal said:

Yeah he's still on the board. He had some of the family down and told him to look into matters also about a few sponsorship deals

Thanks for sharing that. I wonder if he was going more around in the coming months

3 hours ago, JHRover said:

How do you know this?

How can you, or anyone else (including Ismael) know that the information he has been given by the regime at Ewood is correct or honest?

Answer is you don't. Nor does Elliott Jackson, It just sounds nice to believe that everyone and everything at Rovers is wonderful and honest and there's nothing untoward going on. 

Go and listen to Elliott Jackson podcast today. 

Of Course Ismael will know exactly what we have offered to each player and how long the contract length

[Tomphil2]

24 minutes ago, London blue said:

I'm seeing a lot of people espouse complete honesty with no tact as implicitly positive. It's the same in politics; "he says what he feels, he's just so honest."

Imo VI either didn't think about the impact of his answer to the question on Trav or has been briefed to push him out. 

Trav is our captain. The impact on the squad - the majority of which he won't have confided in that he wants to leave - to hear the club captain and cultural leader wants out could be cataclysmic.

We all know how important momentum is in this league and we've turned in two insipid performances. If morale is destroyed among the newer players within a month of joining they don't have a fucking chance.

VI has thrown a grenade and I'm not sure whether it was a slip of the tongue or preordained.

Could well be the Tim Sherwood effect, not comparing as players obviously but Timbo was a big character around the club and in the dressing room and so is Travis.

A big loss when he went.