roversfan99 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago To be fair, before he became so injury prone he was better than Gueye. Quote
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RevidgeBlue Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, rovers11 said: He's a very poor player who VI doesn't rate. I don't think he'll go in this window though as it would be tough to get a replacement in and we're already light up top. Suspect he will leave in Jan though. There's definitely a player in there. The problem is is he varies from looking virtually unplayable as at West Brom under Lowe to looking like he's never seen a football before, there seems to be very little in-between with him, very few solid 7/10 performances. The key is unlocking the WBA version on a regular basis. That said if you could do that he probably wouldn't be here in the first place. Edit: Don't see much future for him under VI. VI seemingly doesn't rate him and Gueye knows it and has sort of sagged as a result. We can't let him go without a better replacement coming in though, we're already bereft of options up front. Not sure how he can jettison Leonard either really without giving him some sort of chance but that appears to be the way that ones going as well. Β Edited 8 hours ago by RevidgeBlue Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: To be fair, before he became so injury prone he was better than Gueye. Nonsense. 4 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I suspect we could sign a 70 year old and because any balance has long gone with you and Gallagher, you would still take the 70 year old. 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Pickering on his way out? Feels bizarre? Edit - seems he plays RW for Legia? Edited 8 hours ago by RoversClitheroe Quote
Paul Mani Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I appreciate that some people feel the club manipulates the narrative. They absolutely do, as do all clubs to varying degrees. But I cannot see for the life of me what VI has done wrong to have people question his handling of the Travis situation. It would appear that heβs simply telling the truth. Derby did bid for him and he did say he wanted to leave. And just because Trav wanted to protect his own legacy by not divulging the fact, it doesnβt mean that VI has to lie for him. In fact, based on the reference to βan extremely unsettled last two weeks internallyβ as referred to by VI, I would surmise that thereβs probably even more to the Travis fallout than what we know and that itβs become toxic, to the point that he was no longer welcome. VI hasnβt disclosed anything. Neither Buckley or Trav have been mistreated as far as I can see. One hasnβt been good enough for a couple of YEARS, the other has a better financial offer and wants to leave - both can jog on. The club owes them nothing and needs to protect itself and its own interests first and foremost. Football is a series of revolving doors, one player leaves and another comes in. Weβve sold the likes of Shearer, Sutton, Duff and Bellamy. Rovers will go on without Trav and Bucko. 6 2 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Pickering on his way out? Feels bizarre? Looks like a player who can play in multiple positions...But yeh not an out n out winger...Legia saying he's one of their best players Edited 8 hours ago by BankEnd Rover Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 19 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: He also said yesterday that Travis had let his team mates down. Just seems unnecessary, didnt have to say that. But as I said, its not what Ismael has said that doesnt sit right. That twitter account is clearly beyond just your average ITK. Its clearly someone on the inside that has got every single thing right that he/she has said. But is clearly either trying or is under instruction to try and make those leaving seem unreasonable/unprofessional to turn fans against then. Nothing to do with an agenda. Its not how a football club should be operating, posting things like that behind a cryptic twitter account. You look at Everton at the moment. Moyes has mentioned a potential leak of transfer info etc so is trying to flush it out. Any club would. This club is proactively leaking this info to make itself look as positive as it can despite shedding so many key players and being totally incapable of sorting new contracts. Yes it definitely has an agenda that as usual with the people who run Rovers is looking to divide the fanbase again and cover their own backsides. It would be nice if those who chose to agree with everything it says at least acknowledged the rather obvious bias. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: I appreciate that some people feel the club manipulates the narrative. They absolutely do, as do all clubs to varying degrees. But I cannot see for the life of me what VI has done wrong to have people question his handling of the Travis situation. It would appear that heβs simply telling the truth. Derby did bid for him and he did say he wanted to leave. And just because Trav wanted to protect his own legacy by not divulging the fact, it doesnβt mean that VI has to lie for him. In fact, based on the reference to βan extremely unsettled last two weeks internallyβ as referred to by VI, I would surmise that thereβs probably even more to the Travis fallout than what we know and that itβs become toxic, to the point that he was no longer welcome. VI hasnβt disclosed anything. Neither Buckley or Trav have been mistreated as far as I can see. One hasnβt been good enough for a couple of YEARS, the other has a better financial offer and wants to leave - both can jog on. The club owes them nothing and needs to protect itself and its own interests first and foremost. Football is a series of revolving doors, one player leaves and another comes in. Weβve sold the likes of Shearer, Sutton, Duff and Bellamy. Rovers will go on without Trav and Bucko. I used to think it was Waggott getting you to say all this sort of stuff on behalf of the Club.Β Obviously it wasn't. 3 Quote
Paul Mani Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Nonsense. This is the second time Iβve agreed with you in a month, whatβs happening!? Hahah Absolutely true. I donβt know if people actually remember how many games Gally played where he literally ran around and never had a single chance. Iβm not even saying Gueye is a great player, but heβs MILES better than Gally. Just by the fact that heβs in the positions to get a chance. Gally plays up front with the goal instinct, and touch of a centre half. Piss poor. 2 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Looks like a player who can play in multiple positions...But yeh not an out n out winger...Legia saying he's one of their best players No idea who this bloke is but we need an out an out winger not a RB who can fill in on the RW etc. Quote
B16Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 14 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: For the football manager fans he's a G+A returning 'mezzala' For normal people, he's done quite well in Poland and is a midfielder who drifts wide Β 1 Quote
Paul Mani Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: I used to think it was Waggott getting you to say all this sort of stuff on behalf of the Club.Β Obviously it wasn't. Just common sense mate. π 2 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Paul Mani said: This is the second time Iβve agreed with you in a month, whatβs happening!? Hahah Absolutely true. I donβt know if people actually remember how many games Gally played where he literally ran around and never had a single chance. Iβm not even saying Gueye is a great player, but heβs MILES better than Gally. Just by the fact that heβs in the positions to get a chance. Gally plays up front with the goal instinct, and touch of a centre half. Piss poor. Aside from that last season when he spent most of it injured, Gallagher tended to score around 9 goals a season. Still not many but more than Gueye. Neither is MILES better than the other, both are pretty poor. You say goal instinct and touch of a centre half, Gueye plays with that too.Β I know you nailed your colours to the mast by eulogising over Gueye after 20 minutes of a friendly but he is not good enough. He summed himself up yesterday when he lacked the intelligence to even try and stay onside before blazing his finish over. 3 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 13 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Wouldnt get a permit. He does. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Regarding these permits. @MarkBRFCΒ I will check with you as you mentioned that Baradji would still take a slot so I think you will know more than most. Loaning out Mafoumbi wouldnt have solved the problem initially because he would still be contracted with us. Would it not potentially work that Baradji is still contracted to Yverdon Sport?Β I suspect not and that he would indeed be taking our final spot. But worth an ask. Quote
roverandout Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: To be fair, before he became so injury prone he was better than Gueye. That's like saying a skoda is better than a Robin reliantΒ 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said: He does. I put him in the GBE calculator and he didnt get nearly enough points. Although I suspect that is out of date. Quote
arbitro Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: He also said yesterday that Travis had let his team mates down. Just seems unnecessary, didnt have to say that. But as I said, its not what Ismael has said that doesnt sit right. That twitter account is clearly beyond just your average ITK. Its clearly someone on the inside that has got every single thing right that he/she has said. But is clearly either trying or is under instruction to try and make those leaving seem unreasonable/unprofessional to turn fans against then. Nothing to do with an agenda. Its not how a football club should be operating, posting things like that behind a cryptic twitter account. You look at Everton at the moment. Moyes has mentioned a potential leak of transfer info etc so is trying to flush it out. Any club would. This club is proactively leaking this info to make itself look as positive as it can despite shedding so many key players and being totally incapable of sorting new contracts. You are making an assumption and trying to turn it into fact based on what you want to believe. I posted earlier that yesterday reminded me of the West Brom game last season when the players responded to Eustace leaving with a show of solidarity. Maybe some of the players believe that Travis has let them down and behaved in aΒ disrespectful manner to them and wanted to prove a point. 3 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, roversfan99 said: I put him in the GBE calculator and he didnt get nearly enough points. Although I suspect that is out of date. On this he does -Β https://www.transferroom.com/gbe Quote
Polky Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 23 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Everyone can stop complaining now! Heβs our new striker, right winger and centre midfielder π₯³ 6 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: Just common sense mate. π Well, its seems to me it's just a deliberate clear out of the higher earners rather than any sort of strategy based on footballing criteria. Whether or not it's a stroke of genius or we end up in League 2 or lower we'll have to wait and see. Very premature to be describing anything going on at the Club at the moment as "common sense" Id say. 4 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, roverandout said: That's like saying a skoda is better than a Robin reliantΒ And in this comparison you paid Β£200k for the Skoda and it costs as much to maintain as a Roller. 1 Quote
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