Wegerleswiggle Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Couldn't care less if Leonard left. If we can get 7 figures for him then we've done alright there. He's had his chance and his body couldn't hack it. Let the Peterborough physio deal with him now and let's move on. 2 Quote
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aletheia Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 35 minutes ago, M_B said: Most of this summer's signings were written off before they'd even flown in . We'll get back to you in May. 😉 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Like Baradji you mean? Agreed poor move - doesn’t make the Leonard one wrong (if it happens) Quote
aletheia Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 20 minutes ago, alcd said: That's not a "spend" it's an income of 1.14m Euros Glad someone's reading. Yes you are absolutely right, thanks (seriously), I've had it the wrong way round in my notes for ages. 🙂 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mercer said: He was one big unit! You would run from this guy in your boozer! In the early 1960s, before becoming a cult hero at Newcastle, he, John Kurila and John Cushley formed a trio of rugged defenders at Celtic who were nicknamed “the Big Bad Johns” after a hit song in 1961. In his autobiography Ferguson recalled facing McNamee – “the worst of these three frighteners” Yeah, I remember Kurila. His nickname was “ Killer “, not without a reason. Cushley eventually came South to play for West Ham when they needed an hard man amongst their Southern Softies. Edited 2 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces Quote
M_B Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, aletheia said: We'll get back to you in May. 😉 How they do isn't really the point is it? Quote
aletheia Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, M_B said: How they do isn't really the point is it? It isn't ? So what are we judging players on then? 1 Quote
Hasta Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, M_B said: How they do isn't really the point is it? Yes. The club sign players. People form an opinion on whether you think they will be good signings (Morishita) or bad (De Neve). Whether they are correct or incorrect will be judged after a period of time after they’ve settled in and played (or not) for the club. Some people weirdly think that players should be perceived as being “good” until proven otherwise. And if people say they aren’t good signings they are ‘writing them off’, like it’s some unfair crime. Edited 1 hour ago by Hasta 1 Quote
Goozburger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said: Couldn't care less if Leonard left. If we can get 7 figures for him then we've done alright there. He's had his chance and his body couldn't hack it. Let the Peterborough physio deal with him now and let's move on. Half of me agrees. The other half wanted me to see how he did on loan for a full season to see if he could stay injury free and score a few. A tall order, as you suggest, but when he was fully fit, he was pretty good I thought. But seven figures... For a lad that only featured for us here and there, has a poor injury record early on in his career... I'm slightly sad that another of our own is leaving, and while I've seen a number of doom and gloom comments about our academy, say what you will - it appears to be more than funding itself. 3 Quote
... Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, aletheia said: It isn't ? So what are we judging players on then? Haircuts Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 1 hour ago Moderation Lead Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, M_B said: Most of this summer's signings were written off before they'd even flown in . I don’t think this is true at all. But it is another case of words and phrases being re defined to suit arguments, also see the word ‘abuse’. Quote
Exiled in Toronto Mk2 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago The Furphy comparison is a good one I think. As well as moving on some stiffs, he sold what I thought were pretty much our three best players in Hunter, Wilson and Rogers (swapped for Barry Dumptruck Endean), dropped the Don into the ressies, promoted two youth players we’d pretty much never heard of in Bradford and McDonald, and promptly saw us hovering just above the bottom 4 until the aforesaid Fergie Frightener single-handedly turned things around. We just need to sign the next Tony Field, whose track record till that point would have seen him condemned as utterly useless had we had a messageboard then. Quote
RoyWegerlesLeftToe Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Leonard to stay. Have an amazing season and Pasha to look like a genius. You heard it here first. Quote
M_B Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 27 minutes ago, Hasta said: Yes. The club sign players. People form an opinion on whether you think they will be good signings (Morishita) or bad (De Neve). Whether they are correct or incorrect will be judged after a period of time after they’ve settled in and played (or not) for the club. Some people weirdly think that players should be perceived as being “good” until proven otherwise. And if people say they aren’t good signings they are ‘writing them off’, like it’s some unfair crime. You've joined the conversation late and misunderstood what was being said. Quote
BRFC. Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, RoyWegerlesLeftToe said: Leonard to stay. Have an amazing season and Pasha to look like a genius. You heard it here first. Pasha and genius in the same sentence. Blimey Quote
J*B Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Any player considering moving to the Azerbaijan league over English football raises serious alarm bells. 8 Quote
RoyWegerlesLeftToe Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, BRFC. said: Pasha and genius in the same sentence. Blimey Drop a few letters and it also says anus. 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said: The Furphy comparison is a good one I think. As well as moving on some stiffs, he sold what I thought were pretty much our three best players in Hunter, Wilson and Rogers (swapped for Barry Dumptruck Endean), dropped the Don into the ressies, promoted two youth players we’d pretty much never heard of in Bradford and McDonald, and promptly saw us hovering just above the bottom 4 until the aforesaid Fergie Frightener single-handedly turned things around. We just need to sign the next Tony Field, whose track record till that point would have seen him condemned as utterly useless had we had a messageboard then. Hunter was part of the Bobby Bell transfer. Bell came as a £20,000 make weight in that deal and we sold him about 3 weeks later for £55,000 to Palace where he hardly ever played. A Jim Smith master stroke, even if we lost Hunter who was top class, as his future career at Ipswich proved. Edited 1 hour ago by Tyrone Shoelaces Quote
M_B Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, K-Hod said: I don’t think this is true at all. But it is another case of words and phrases being re defined to suit arguments, also see the word ‘abuse "Signing players who've been relegated" How many times did they get written off? You mustnt have been reading at the beginning of the window. And what the "abuse" comment is about I've no idea 1 Quote
Old Codger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, J*B said: Any player considering moving to the Azerbaijan league over English football raises serious alarm bells. Seriously, this holds true for most conventional clubs, but Batshit Crazy Blackburn Rovers whose reputation is in shitting tatters, whose 'Can Pay - WON'T PAY' philosophy is emblazoned on every decision so far this transfer window, and whose 'senior management' comprises a half-witted shadow dancer taking a massive salary and an over-promoted work experience trainee.... Hmm, come to think of it, Azerbaijan is very pretty in the autumn...cost of living is a fraction of the UK, tax regime is malleable.... Yup. 1 Quote
M_B Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 41 minutes ago, aletheia said: It isn't ? So what are we judging players on then? You've misunderstood the conversation . Quote
J*B Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Old Codger said: Seriously, this holds true for most conventional clubs, but Batshit Crazy Blackburn Rovers whose reputation is in shitting tatters, whose 'Can Pay - WON'T PAY' philosophy is emblazoned on every decision so far this transfer window, and whose 'senior management' comprises a half-witted shadow dancer taking a massive salary and an over-promoted work experience trainee.... Hmm, come to think of it, Azerbaijan is very pretty in the autumn...cost of living is a fraction of the UK, tax regime is malleable.... Yup. I’m not sure. I’d much rather he was thinking “I’ll move to crazy Rovers, score 20 in a season and move somewhere else”. I’m being deadly serious when I say I’d be asking him if he was seriously considering Azerbaijan and if he answered yes, I’d move on. Not the right character. 3 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, M_B said: "Signing players who've been relegated" How many times did they get written off? You mustnt have been reading at the beginning of the window. And what the "abuse" comment is about I've no idea Is that quote writing players off or just an observation? If it was: "He is going to be shit and I wont even give him the chance to prove himself considering he was relegated." Then maybe. Quote
Old Codger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, J*B said: I’m not sure. I’d much rather he was thinking “I’ll move to crazy Rovers, score 20 in a season and move somewhere else”. I’m being deadly serious when I say I’d be asking him if he was seriously considering Azerbaijan and if he answered yes, I’d move on. Not the right character. I getcha. I do forget sometimes that to the outside world we are just a football club. And yes, I also forget that £10k per week is a half million pounds a year wage, which isn't to be sniffed at (particularly round here, where wages have not kept pace with inflation for the past 30 years). So, fair point. I getcha. Quote
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