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2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Yep, we’ve already sold more than the total sales in 2021/22 so whatever we end up selling this time it certainly won’t register as a ‘protest’.

That run from nowhere by Val has saved a serious embarrassment to Swaghail.

I don't believe it will have made much difference to be honest, although there's no way of proving it either way.

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My view is if that run had continued more of the 50/50 waverers would’ve gone the other way, football fandom is all about momentum (good or bad) and the general vibe around the place, it was horrendous a month ago, now, many more will be on the side of ‘good season that’… but yes, we’ll never know.

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Posted
7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

One thing they dont ever seem to have been pressed on is the stupid phases.

Prices etc theyve been questioned on and given often illogical explanations but the phases means that youve basically got a whole summer where you are limiting sales with people unwilling to pay an inflated price.

they have these phases to get the season ticket money in early in the summer to cover the shortfall from summer of income coming into the club. 

Doesn't every club does these phases? 

6 hours ago, rigger said:

If a season-ticket was not value for money a month ago, I don't see how it suddenly changes to being value for money. It still isn't for me. 

cos people situation might change like a new job or a job changing from temporary one to a permanent position or work pattern  

3 hours ago, Gutted said:

Does anyone know if this extension includes the ‘claim your own seat’ period?
Or will those existing ST seats that haven’t been renewed, now available? 
Reason I’m asking is that I am not prepared to pay any more in JW Upper and will be moving to the Riverside. I’ve already heard of several others doing the same. 

you can still renewed now for this price and after the deadline then your seat swap will happen 

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Posted
15 hours ago, arbitro said:

Recruitment would work better if we could keep hold of staff. The turnover of personnel in that particular area cannot be conducive to success, there is very little continuity.

And one of the reasons for this recently has been the power struggle going on which in turn goes back to poor ownership and leadership.

High staff turnover cost a fortune for any company, let alone one that's deliberately implemented a programme of severe austerity upon itself.

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Posted
9 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Whether other clubs do it or not, im not particularly interested. But us doing it is ridiculous and counter productive.

I've told you why clubs do it so clubs have income over the summer to pay staff. Think about League 2 club who need that income to cover the club outgoings over the summer. It's Business at the end of the day. 

When do cut off point in order for fans to move seats? Etc, etc

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Again, im talking about Rovers who despite Venkys best efforts arent a League 2 club.

We should have the cash flow to not hinder potential season ticket sales by essentially throughout the summer probably putting a lot of people off because by the time theyve decided they would be interested, they then are unwilling to buy a season ticket for more than they could have had one for a month or two ago. There is no justification for it.

You could still have a cut off to keep your seat without hiking prices.

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Posted

If the 7000 figure is correct its way down on last season 

Anyone who hasn't bought one now highly likely isnt going to buy one at a increased rate after a already big price hike

Factor in mid week games on Sky etc

Rovers have a scored a own goal 

Im not bothered what other clubs charge IMHO Rovers have got it wrong

Venkys Pasha Waggott Gestede OUT

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Posted

Limited catchment area, vastly altered demographic from when we were drawing big crowds, constant worsening cost of living and poverty crisis within the borough, many Rovers regulars, former regulars and casual fans now live a few miles away, low wage economy and of course constantly disillusioned fans.

You simply have to price to your market and ours is slightly different than a lot in this division or indeed England. Never the mind the fact we have at least 15k empty seats most of the time but we do actually have potential for more attendees even at this level.

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

Limited catchment area, vastly altered demographic from when we were drawing big crowds, constant worsening cost of living and poverty crisis within the borough, many Rovers regulars, former regulars and casual fans now live a few miles away, low wage economy and of course constantly disillusioned fans.

You simply have to price to your market and ours is slightly different than a lot in this division or indeed England. Never the mind the fact we have at least 15k empty seats most of the time but we do actually have potential for more attendees even at this level.

 

The catchment area is huge - we have fans from Cheshire and Cumbria. The problem is we no longer market to them - hell we no longer market to fans out of the Borough, even though that's where a good number come from. 

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I’ve still not renewed.
 

For me to spend my hard earned cash again, they’ve got to sort the contracts out of the regular starters and start the season with a stronger squad, which means making around 3 Championship quality signings. If they don’t do that, I won’t be going. 

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That’s different than a catchment area. A catchment area is where you are the main player in a town/in borough(s) etc. We obviously aren’t in Cheshire and Cumbria.

Doesn’t mean we don’t have fans further afield, of course we do, now more than ever with the demographic change in Blackburn - but we also don’t have the luxury of being the only show in town in a 20/30 mile radius like so many other clubs do.

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16 minutes ago, scotchrover said:

I’ve still not renewed.
 

For me to spend my hard earned cash again, they’ve got to sort the contracts out of the regular starters and start the season with a stronger squad, which means making around 3 Championship quality signings. If they don’t do that, I won’t be going. 

Brilliant. I agree entirely!!

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Posted
3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Again, im talking about Rovers who despite Venkys best efforts arent a League 2 club.

We should have the cash flow to not hinder potential season ticket sales by essentially throughout the summer probably putting a lot of people off because by the time theyve decided they would be interested, they then are unwilling to buy a season ticket for more than they could have had one for a month or two ago. There is no justification for it.

You could still have a cut off to keep your seat without hiking prices.

My point which you missed it is about football clubs need income during the summer period and that income is through ST's and club merchandise. Its a business at the end of the day 

Football clubs have these phases in order to get a baulk of money in within a specific period of time. 

Yes Rovers could choose to not to raise in the next phase but extending the deadline by 2 weeks was good smart move 

3 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

Limited catchment area, vastly altered demographic from when we were drawing big crowds, constant worsening cost of living and poverty crisis within the borough, many Rovers regulars, former regulars and casual fans now live a few miles away, low wage economy and of course constantly disillusioned fans.

You simply have to price to your market and ours is slightly different than a lot in this division or indeed England. Never the mind the fact we have at least 15k empty seats most of the time but we do actually have potential for more attendees even at this level.

I would say that country is facing higher bills and uncertain job market with businesses holding off investing and hiring. 

Aren't Rovers are one of cheaper in the championship next season in terms of pricing? 

Posted

Do you still think they need reducing? Doesn’t sound like it.

We’ve sold 7,000, a figure so poor they’ve had to extend the early bird, obviously the fanbase isn’t seeing them as being enticingly priced.

Posted
On 04/05/2025 at 12:28, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

They have extended the deadline as a 'thank you' for the fans support this Season.

How damn well gracious of them.

Yeah, and when I chanted "Venky's out", what I really meant was a thankyou for all their efforts over 15 years and they now need a well earned break.

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Having to repeatedly extend early bird offers isnt smart, it shows they repeatedly get it wrong and then panic when they realise.

Obviously early birds are an attempt at getting as much in as early as possible, but overall youll get less numbers because people who for whatever reason dont or cant commit so early (the season has literally just finished) wont then willingly pay more than what others have paid for the same product.

Take the early bird out of it, I suspect many who have got season tickets would have got them in the early weeks anyway, especially if its to maintain their seats, so I doubt the cash flow is even overly benefitted by it.

Posted
47 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Do you still think they need reducing? Doesn’t sound like it.

We’ve sold 7,000, a figure so poor they’ve had to extend the early bird, obviously the fanbase isn’t seeing them as being enticingly priced.

Speaking as a fan from my own point of view, I think its a fair price and affordable and I can attend every home league game. plus The price is same I paid in 2021/22. 

Thinking If I was the owner I would have dropped them in our 150th anniversary to £150 all areas and created a special one of price in this season and get Ewood Park full, I would be completely clear this is one off price to the fan base. Next season, they will go back to the same price as year before in 24/25 season 

Posted
2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The catchment area is huge - we have fans from Cheshire and Cumbria. The problem is we no longer market to them - hell we no longer market to fans out of the Borough, even though that's where a good number come from. 

Not sure I agree. Of course, we have fans in Cumbria and Scotland etc, but the point is that we are ringed by other clubs ..

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Posted
2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The catchment area is huge - we have fans from Cheshire and Cumbria. The problem is we no longer market to them - hell we no longer market to fans out of the Borough, even though that's where a good number come from. 

Not really a catchment area now though and hasn't been for a long time, yes there are fans still there but this regime doesn't care about lapsed fans.

When Jack started building Rovers up back then outside of the Manchester and Merseyside giants there hadn't been another north west club in top flight for decades never mind a successful one.  Hence the rebuilding of Ewood to such a size, hence the hiring of John Williams and just as importantly well priced tickets.

The area was huge and it worked for a while then plateaued out before this lot ruined it.

Now though they are right to concentrate on a more realistic market but many locals are priced out or put off ST by kick off times and cack handed running of the club. If you can't offer Prem football them you have to offer tempting and affordable Championship football and a bit of ambition.

No reason why we can't average 15k home supporters they are out there but nobody seems arsed we'll just host them a few times a season and get match by match prices off them.

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Posted
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

My point which you missed it is about football clubs need income during the summer period and that income is through ST's and club merchandise. Its a business at the end of the day 

Football clubs have these phases in order to get a baulk of money in within a specific period of time. 

Yes Rovers could choose to not to raise in the next phase but extending the deadline by 2 weeks was good smart move 

I would say that country is facing higher bills and uncertain job market with businesses holding off investing and hiring. 

Aren't Rovers are one of cheaper in the championship next season in terms of pricing? 

But the main point here surely is Blackburn Rovers are in Blackburn with Darwen, not Norwich, not Stoke or Swansea.

The tickets simply have to be cheaper to get more in regularly, ok Bolton are a league below and have less running costs so we'll ignore them but Preston have shown the way.

If we did the same deal they did a few years ago we'd pull in more than them we did before they cut their prices.

Posted
7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Having to repeatedly extend early bird offers isnt smart, it shows they repeatedly get it wrong and then panic when they realise.

Obviously early birds are an attempt at getting as much in as early as possible, but overall youll get less numbers because people who for whatever reason dont or cant commit so early (the season has literally just finished) wont then willingly pay more than what others have paid for the same product.

Take the early bird out of it, I suspect many who have got season tickets would have got them in the early weeks anyway, especially if its to maintain their seats, so I doubt the cash flow is even overly benefitted by it.

We extend it once this summer by 2 weeks and I think it was smart move given we have just finished the season and been on a run of 14 points from the last 6 games. gives soe fans to make their own choice? Plus we announced ST prices weeks ago. It was no brainer to renew given this is passion and I couldn't imagine not going to every home game and going with the people I do. 

So why does every club do an early bird scheme then? 

are you current STH and have you renew for next season? if so or not, what was your reasons for doing so? 

 

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If we were on course to hit their revenue targets it wouldn’t have been extended. They are panicking because they are obviously somewhat off it.

Not a ‘smart’ move, just a necessary one if they want to have bonuses all round.

Posted
31 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

But the main point here surely is Blackburn Rovers are in Blackburn with Darwen, not Norwich, not Stoke or Swansea.

The tickets simply have to be cheaper to get more in regularly, ok Bolton are a league below and have less running costs so we'll ignore them but Preston have shown the way.

If we did the same deal they did a few years ago we'd pull in more than them we did before they cut their prices.

so you think people in different areas aren't feeling the financial pressures that people in Lancashire area or feeling for the uncertainly over their jobs? 

Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

so you think people in different areas aren't feeling the financial pressures that people in Lancashire area or feeling for the uncertainly over their jobs? 

In general, Blackburn with Darwen had the lowest gross disposable income per head of all Lancashire in 2021. It was one of the lowest in the whole country. 

So of course people in all areas of the UK feel financial pressures, but on average there is less spare money to go around per person in this area than other parts of the country.

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