chaddyrovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mercer said: What a simple and myopic view you have on life. An absolutely nonsensical stance. oh well Mercer as long as I don't have the same pro dingles views as you life is good. 3 hours ago, Mercer said: IMO, Mowbray is a washed-up dinosaur. Wouldn't touch him with the proverbial shitty stick. oh well, don't worry it Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, roversfan99 said: How on earth can it just be a footballing decision, whereby money and location should just be dismissed out of hand. cos it is footballing decision, what can't you get your head around it? Wolves likely to relegation this season, Squad lacking quality, probably not much money to spend and can't buy non UK players so shopping in championship market and PL cast offs, not what you want in survival bid is it? Quote
Mattyblue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Wolves will have a bigger Championship budget than Middlesbrough, so a sound footballing decision, plus gets a big pay rise and moves back home too - all in all a very sensible career move. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: cos it is footballing decision, what can't you get your head around it? Wolves likely to relegation this season, Squad lacking quality, probably not much money to spend and can't buy non UK players so shopping in championship market and PL cast offs, not what you want in survival bid is it? Its not just a footballing decision, clearly. Its a job offer, it involves salary, it involves location, it involves Edwards as a person, not just a football manager. I dont agree with your logic on the football aspect of it, you are making a lot of assumptions on budget/targets, but thats fair debate. But to say its just a footballing decision is even for you, ridicilous. Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 6 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 6 hours ago Being paid more money to manage Wolves at a higher level, it’s a free hit effectively this season, if he keeps them up, he’s a hero. If they go down, they’ll have one of the biggest budgets to try and get back up. Nah, no idea why he’d be tempted 😅. 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 31 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Its not just a footballing decision, clearly. Its a job offer, it involves salary, it involves location, it involves Edwards as a person, not just a football manager. I dont agree with your logic on the football aspect of it, you are making a lot of assumptions on budget/targets, but thats fair debate. But to say its just a footballing decision is even for you, ridicilous. Cos it is footballing decision. I have explained my opinion MORE THAN ONCE which is shared by Alan Shearer and Theo Walcott, so why can't you just simply accept it RF99? Their squad isn't good enough to stay up. I have made my comments on budgets and targets based on article I've read on Edwards appointment and likely budget and transfers in the Athletic. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted 5 hours ago Backroom Posted 5 hours ago Footballers, the very definition of loyalty. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 45 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Cos it is footballing decision. I have explained my opinion MORE THAN ONCE which is shared by Alan Shearer and Theo Walcott, so why can't you just simply accept it RF99? Their squad isn't good enough to stay up. I have made my comments on budgets and targets based on article I've read on Edwards appointment and likely budget and transfers in the Athletic. You havent explained why it is only a footballing decision, and money and location dont play a part. You often say you repeatedly have explained something when you havent. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, K-Hod said: Being paid more money to manage Wolves at a higher level, it’s a free hit effectively this season, if he keeps them up, he’s a hero. If they go down, they’ll have one of the biggest budgets to try and get back up. Nah, no idea why he’d be tempted 😅. Loves a relegation on his CV does Rob Edwards. This will be his third in three years. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: You havent explained why it is only a footballing decision, and money and location dont play a part. You often say you repeatedly have explained something when you havent. As I have already the quality of that Wolves squad, 2 points from 11 games, the limited of funds probably in January and what type of players you can attract in that situation. But hey life's great we got relegate but at least my bank balance is better. 🤔 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 4 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 4 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Loves a relegation on his CV does Rob Edwards. This will be his third in three years. Sure his bank balance will help with the grieving process. 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 4 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: As I have already the quality of that Wolves squad, 2 points from 11 games, the limited of funds probably in January and what type of players you can attract in that situation. But hey life's great we got relegate but at least my bank balance is better. 🤔 He could probably retire by 50 and toss it off being a pundit every fortnight to top up his pension and fund one of his many annual Dubai trips. He’ll live. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: As I have already the quality of that Wolves squad, 2 points from 11 games, the limited of funds probably in January and what type of players you can attract in that situation. But hey life's great we got relegate but at least my bank balance is better. 🤔 None of that explains why it is ONLY a footballing decision and he shouldnt consider non footballing factors. Quote
Hasta Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: cos it is footballing decision, what can't you get your head around it? Wolves likely to relegation this season, Squad lacking quality, probably not much money to spend and can't buy non UK players so shopping in championship market and PL cast offs, not what you want in survival bid is it? I get where you are coming from Chaddy. Sometimes you need to think not just about the here and now, but what’s best for your career. You need to weigh up not just where the two clubs are in the table now, but where you feel they will be in 12 months time. Which club will have the best chance of success in the short-to-medium term. If you do that, you’re making the decision based on logical footballing reasoning. Which is why I’m perplexed you’re bitter about why Eustace left. Quote
aletheia Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Hasta said: Which is why I’m perplexed you’re bitter about why Eustace left. 😉 You know the answer. It's the official club line. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 28 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: None of that explains why it is ONLY a footballing decision and he shouldnt consider non footballing factors. I give up. I have told you several times repeatedly.. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Hasta said: I get where you are coming from Chaddy. Thanks, at least you do 26 minutes ago, Hasta said: Sometimes you need to think not just about the here and now, but what’s best for your career. You need to weigh up not just where the two clubs are in the table now, but where you feel they will be in 12 months time. Which club will have the best chance of success in the short-to-medium term. If you do that, you’re making the decision based on logical footballing reasoning. Which is why I’m perplexed you’re bitter about why Eustace left. Most deffo. I wouldn't say bitter but annoyed he lied when he approach and how it was done. I didnt booed him yesterday either. Tho Rovers should have managed the situation better Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Most deffo. I wouldn't say bitter but annoyed he lied when he approach and how it was done. What would you have preferred he said just before an important Cup tie? "Well yeah (y'know) frankly I've had enough of working for these tossers, I want clarity on my own future and those of our key players and have had no joy so far. If I can't get it then I think my long term future would be better served by moving to Derby." I can't believe you're so hung up about him telling a white lie. If anything you should be annoyed at the Club for allowing him to stay in charge for that particular game as they clearly had no intention whatsoever of acceding to his wishes or even attempting to meet him halfway as "Project transition" was clearly in the offing. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Hasta said: I get where you are coming from Chaddy. Sometimes you need to think not just about the here and now, but what’s best for your career. You need to weigh up not just where the two clubs are in the table now, but where you feel they will be in 12 months time. Which club will have the best chance of success in the short-to-medium term. If you do that, you’re making the decision based on logical footballing reasoning. Which is why I’m perplexed you’re bitter about why Eustace left. I get that but to say that its purely a footballing decision when youve got a potential big pay increase and a location change is blatantly untrue. As a football decision I think you can make an argument either way. At Wolves, its guaranteed instant Premier League football, the only way he gets that. Expectations are very low, he wont get loads of blame if they go down. If he pulls off survival, and Burnley and Leeds are in danger, hes a miracle worker. Assuming they go down, theyd be big favourites, big resources and a good chance of then gaining some momentum. If he got sacked before then, it wont damage his reputation too much if at all. At Boro, they are fighting with a lot of teams for a top 2 place. Couldnt say its a likelihood they go up, less than 50% chance for sure. Play offs is more likely, and is obviously a lottery. Gets them up either way, big reputation boost but they arent a stand out team so I would say more chance they dont and his reputation is unchanged. He is bitter about Eustace because its the only way to divert blame away from the real culprits because he doesnt want to criticise the club. Quote
Mattyblue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) ‘The club’ being Rudy Gestede, Suhail and the Rao family. Obviously people that deserve blind allegiance. Edited 3 hours ago by Mattyblue Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: He is bitter about Eustace because its the only way to divert blame away from the real culprits because he doesnt want to criticise the club. Interesting comment given my comments were I said both sides were to blame here. My comment Eustace lied to the fans over when the Derby's approach was made, and that we were a family and in this together. Rovers was at fault for certain things like contract extension or not bringing Thomas-Asante into Rovers last January or being slow to react to Derby's approach and allowing him to take the Wolves game Edited 3 hours ago by chaddyrovers Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Interesting comment given my comments were I said both sides were to blame here. My comment Eustace lied to the fans over when the Derby's approach was made, and that we were a family and in this together. Rovers was at fault for certain things like contract extension or not bringing Thomas-Asante into Rovers last January or being slow to react to Derby's approach and allowing him to take the Wolves game The club ie the owners and board were at fault for far more than that. Quote
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