January Transfer Needs

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

I still hold out a feint hope for Henriksson

Think if we hold on to him, he will be an excellent goalscoring midfielder in League 1 in a year or 2, and will kick on from there 😉 

There's a player in Henriksson. Unfortunately he's behind Cantwell and Morishita in that #10 role at the moment. He needs more game time.

[Mercer]

Understand Rovers trying to land Alebiosu Mark 2.  Whether as back-up or replacement remains to be seen - the target is Daniel Oyegoke.

[simongarnerisgod]

2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

There's a player in Henriksson. Unfortunately he's behind Cantwell and Morishita in that #10 role at the moment. He needs more game time.

he`s not up to this level of football,val can`t put him on the pitch because he`s a walking yellow card,in the fact he runs around like a lunatic fouling everyone because thought wise,he`s a yard behind the speed of the game,it`s a damning indicement of him that sidnei and deneve have received more game time than him and those two ar`nt good enough either,we need to offload all three imo

[DE.]

20 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

LOL if you think we spent £4.3m on Tavares, De Neve and Henriksson.

Considering the edit is in the post you quoted, this is a baffling response. 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 minutes ago, DE. said:

Considering the edit is in the post you quoted, this is a baffling response. 

Much like it was a baffling statement.

[Exiled_Rover]

10 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

he`s not up to this level of football,val can`t put him on the pitch because he`s a walking yellow card,in the fact he runs around like a lunatic fouling everyone because thought wise,he`s a yard behind the speed of the game,it`s a damning indicement of him that sidnei and deneve have received more game time than him and those two ar`nt good enough either,we need to offload all three imo

They play different positions - he can't really come on for the same players Tavares and De Neve can come on for. Tavares has one highlight in 4 months of football - a lovely interception and assist for an Ohashi goal. That's very worrying and I can't see him being here much longer.

Maybe he is terrible, but I've seen enough to give him a longer leash. Granted Baradji looks significantly better already (and can play multiple positions in Midfield).

[Roverthechimp]

22 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

There's a player in Henriksson. Unfortunately he's behind Cantwell and Morishita in that #10 role at the moment. He needs more game time.

Based on his cameo against Millwall and what i have seen earlier i wonder if shifting him to being a "back to goal" striker might be the answer. I agree he seems to have some playing ability but is way off being abel to play the "10" role in the championship (imo of course)

[KentExile]

29 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Understand Rovers trying to land Alebiosu Mark 2.  Whether as back-up or replacement remains to be seen - the target is Daniel Oyegoke.

That's like "Alebiosu, he has been good" lets get someone of exactly the same profile"

 

English ✅

right back/wing back ✅

of Nigerian dissent ✅

came through Arsenal academy ✅

had 6 months playing for Hearts in Scotland last season ✅

playing on the continent ✅

cheap (he has only played 8 times in his year at Verona, and only three times this season) ✅

 

Scarily uncanny

Edited 6 hours ago by KentExile

[DE.]

25 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Much like it was a baffling statement.

It was wrong, yes, and I'd admitted that I got mixed up with something else. My apologies. 

[DE.]

17 minutes ago, KentExile said:

That's like "Alebiosu, he has been good" lets get someone of exactly the same profile"

 

English ✅

right back/wing back ✅

of Nigerian dissent ✅

came through Arsenal academy ✅

had 6 months playing for Hearts in Scotland last season ✅

playing on the continent ✅

cheap (he has only played 8 times in his year at Verona, and only three times this season) ✅

 

Scarily uncanny

Think we'd be fortunate for lightning to strike twice. Alebiosu has been a revelation but I expect another cheap punt will end up closer to the Tavares/De Neve/Henriksson category. 

[KentExile]

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

 

Be interesting to see where O'Riordon fits into all that now.

On the bench, as Millers deputy.  Litherland has done more than enough to keep his place at wing back whilst Alebiosu is away

Edited 6 hours ago by KentExile

[KentExile]

16 minutes ago, DE. said:

Think we'd be fortunate for lightning to strike twice. Alebiosu has been a revelation but I expect another cheap punt will end up closer to the Tavares/De Neve/Henriksson category. 

I wasn't suggesting for one second he will be anything like as successful as Alebiosu, just a long list of similarities, most of which have next to no impact on his ability

Maybe that's "the data" these days 😉 

Edited 5 hours ago by KentExile

[blondie]

Oh Daniel Oyegoke, Oh Daniel Oyegoke, Oh Daniel Oyegoke.

Gotta be a chant there, let us know.🤣🤣

[Tomphil2]

52 minutes ago, KentExile said:

That's like "Alebiosu, he has been good" lets get someone of exactly the same profile"

 

English ✅

right back/wing back ✅

of Nigerian dissent ✅

came through Arsenal academy ✅

had 6 months playing for Hearts in Scotland last season ✅

playing on the continent ✅

cheap (he has only played 8 times in his year at Verona, and only three times this season) ✅

 

Scarily uncanny

Lets hope it's the future formula for more positions.

[Comfortably numb]

[simongarnerisgod]

i found it weird that o`riordan was highly rated at crewe but has been loaned out by our last two managers,despite him already impressing a lower level with crewe,hopefully he`ll come back here and fit in like pratt has

[JCRovers]

I would say we need 4-5 signings this window:

- 1 center back to cover for the two who's currently injured (Carter, Wharton). O'Riordan will be recalled but I would still go for another one on a permanent.

- 2 wing backs, one to compete for Hedges' position and the other to provide cover for Alebiosu. Litherland did well on his debut but it's still too early to make a call and rely on him as backup.

- 1 central midfielder, preferably a box-to-box type

- 1 striker to compete with Gudjohnsen / Ohashi

Offload: Gueye (almost a certainty by now), De Neve (loan or permanent), Tavares (loan or permanent)

Left wing back, central midfielder and striker are key areas. If we get those three right, then we might have a team capable of picking up points and wins on a more consistent level.

Some other notes:

Great to see academy players taking their chances and show their worth. Pratt and Atcheson looks very physical and capable of handling Championship football in that sense. Litherland at right wing back was a surprise package vs Millwall and was unlucky not to get on the scoresheet. Montgomery looked out of depth early in the season but made some decent progress before getting injured. Too bad about Tyjon's contractual situation as he's talented, would've liked to see him go out on loan to a L1 or L2 side to gain valuable experience.

Our summer recruitment has really been a hit & miss so far. De Neve and Tavares biggest disappointments while Alebiosu has been our best player this season. Think Baradji will be really good as a powerful box-to-box midfielder once fully match fit. 

[KentExile]

33 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

 

- 1 central midfielder, preferably a box-to-box type

 

Really?

At the moment, we have Tronstad sitting with Cantwell & Morishita either side of him, Baradji looks like he will eventually be pushing for a start as one of those a bit further forwards too.  Yet nobody capable of filling in for Tronstad, barring Forshaw, who has to have 2 months off if he plays 2 games in a week

Central midfielder needed, but a back up (and eventual replacement due to penny pinching) for Tronstad is what is required

Edited 4 hours ago by KentExile

[JCRovers]

2 hours ago, KentExile said:

Really?

At the moment, we have Tronstad sitting with Cantwell & Morishita either side of him, Baradji looks like he will eventually be pushing for a start as one of those a bit further forwards too.  Yet nobody capable of filling in for Tronstad, barring Forshaw, who has to have 2 months off if he plays 2 games in a week

Central midfielder needed, but a back up (and eventual replacement due to penny pinching) for Tronstad is what is required

Cantwell in my opinion is a 10, not an 8. I agree regarding Tronstad that we lack a proper backup in the holding midfield department after Travis left, however. Holding midfielder coupled with a playmaker and box-to-box player is in my view a good combination in central midfield. 

We've lacked a central midfielder who can drive forward and attack opposition box for so many years. JDT experimented with Travis at one point but it failed. Baradji has potential to become good but I feel we need another one in case he gets injured again.

Edited 2 hours ago by JCRovers

[roversfan99]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

You failed to understand that we can only register 25 players and we are now at 25 players will O'Riordan being recalled and will be available from the 1st of January. 

So do we not register Carter or Wharton then? meaning we can't play them. What your plan RF99 

Yes we need to get rid of players to bring players in and register them by end of the window. 

Looking at the back 3, we would move to Miller to right wing back position now, so that's leave us with these options McLoughlin, Pratt, Wharton, Carter and O'Riordan. Plus Litherland and Atcheson. So 1 centre back signing is more than tbh, any more is just wasting our money even if Carter would move on. 

I feel we actually play better with Pratt in the back then Ribeiro in there. 

Going forward, Rovers have decisions to make over the future off Gueye, Ribeiro, Pickering, TGH, De Neve and Tyjon before this window ends. 

I dont fail to understand. Just because I dont agree with you, it doesnt mean that I just have no understanding of the rules.

For me, its not just about listing players which you repeatedly do. If there are 3 positions up for grabs, as far as you are concerned, if you can name 6 or more players who can play those positions, whether they are good enough, whether theyve proven themselves yet, whether they are constantly injured, it doesnt seem to matter to you. I am bothered about quality. I dont think we have enough. And how is signing first team quality players "wasting money?"

We have so many players in the squad who are nowhere near the standard. Gueye, De Neve, Henriksson, Tavares, Kargbo. Conversations can be had, give them time unlike the disgraceful way we treated Sigurdsson. Say theres a big chance that you wont be registered if you stay, things havent worked out, you arent part of the plans going forward. Ribeiro I think a similar conversation because he no longer has a place in the formation. With Carter, hes a waste of a space to be honest. 

This wont happen by the way, we will end the window still full of crap in the squad. But it needs to happen.

 

[wilsdenrover]

Haven’t we 23 players currently registered so even with O’Riordan we’d still have one spare?

[DutchRover]

For the life of me I can't understand why we refuse to resign Tronstad. He's clearly the glue in midfield and all the players and Ismael love him, and he actively wants to stay. I can't even imagine his wage demands are outlandish, especially if the alleged move home to Scandi land is real.

We save money by not having to replace him too.

He is top priority in Jan.

Edited 2 hours ago by DutchRover

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Haven’t we 23 players currently registered so even with O’Riordan we’d still have one spare?

no we have 24 cos we register George Pratt when we recalled him

[KentExile]

11 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Haven’t we 23 players currently registered so even with O’Riordan we’d still have one spare?

 

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

no we have 24 cos we register George Pratt when we recalled him

Chaddy beat me to it

[KentExile]

14 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

For the life of me I can't understand why we refuse to resign Tronstad. He's clearly the glue in midfield and all the players and Ismael love him, and he actively wants to stay. I can't even imagine his wage demands are outlandish, especially if the alleged move home to Scandi land is real.

We save money by not having to replace him too.

He is top priority in Jan.

Purley financial, he is getting paid an average Championship wage, Rovers don't want to pay that much any more.

Don't worry, a random from Belgium will be on his way in a cut price deal, 50/50 he will be the midfield equivalent of an Alebiosu or a De Neve

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile