Next Rovers manager

[Waggy76]

22 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

I'd be more than happy with Savage. Has a great record so far and will certainly bring a lot of media attention 

I cannot see the Venkys and their 2 stooges wanting media attention !

An investigative journalist from the main stream press , would not be welcome !

[Ghost7]

These guys failed to attract someone decent when we were 5th in the league with about 15 games to go.

Not worthing thinking about who they might bring in now.

[London blue]

1 minute ago, Ghost7 said:

These guys failed to attract someone decent when we were 5th in the league with about 15 games to go.

Not worthing thinking about who they might bring in now.

Looking back at this dispassionately Ismael being hired under these circumstances is fucking criminal.

Jesus Christ.

[Browjd]

It's a really good point, any ordinary club who are in playoff hunt with a pretty good team would have been able to secure a quality manager. Not us...Now, it's even more dire. It's going to need a miracle to find someone good. 

 

[sharpysharps86]

I loved Robbie Savage as a player for Rovers, but the guy has not managed a single game in League Two, never mind the Championship.

He might be a good, but he's been a manager for less than 2 seasons. It would be an enormous risk to take a punt on him. Is this where we are at as a club? Fishing for a new manager in the National League? Give it a few more seasons I suppose and Venky's will have us in that league.

Having said all that, I'd take him over Chris Coleman every day.

[Polky]

14 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I'm amazed Johnson isn't close to the top of that list. It is becoming quite clear, if ever we needed it to, that there was nobody lined up to come in and  no succession plan despite having had weeks/months to prepare for this

I think the obvious and natural outcome is going to be to hand it to Johnson until the end of the season when they realise what competent managers want in terms of wages and assurances.

Sounds like from his interviews that he doesn’t want the job. Something along the lines of he loves his current role and prefers to be a coach.

[jim mk2]

8 minutes ago, London blue said:

Looking back at this dispassionately Ismael being hired under these circumstances is fucking criminal.

Jesus Christ.

It shows their complete lack of judgment that they hired a dud who failed everywhere he's been. Unfortunately it's also indicative of Rovers' standing within the game because of the way the club is run - no decent manager will come near us.Look at the list of candidates bandied around yesterday - a horror show of failure and never has-beens

[Ghost7]

There were some managers available that would have potentially inspired and taken us up, that was clear but they weren't interested in spending the money (around what they allegedly spent on Tavares) to do it.

They also could have cherrypicked nearly everyone in employment using the league position at the time but sadly it was never an option under absent owners. What an opportunity it was to get the right man in and win promotion. We will never see the club poach a good manager from a team at a similar level.

They don't have it in them, no desire, no real interest in seeing the club they own do well. Proven again and again and again.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I'm amazed Johnson isn't close to the top of that list. It is becoming quite clear, if ever we needed it to, that there was nobody lined up to come in and  no succession plan despite having had weeks/months to prepare for this

I think the obvious and natural outcome is going to be to hand it to Johnson until the end of the season when they realise what competent managers want in terms of wages and assurances.

It depends how many games in charge you need to be classed "permanent" I suppose. I wouldn't be totally against him keeping it until the end of the season IF it's clear he's doing more than enough to keep us out of trouble.

I think that list just goes to show how unreliable early odds are. A rumour here and there, a mention on a website or social media and all of a sudden you shoot into favouritism.

FWIW

Savage - yes- would be fine with that. 

Coleman - God no

Bilic - definitely but can't see it happening if he thinks he has any chance whatsoever of being parachuted into West Ham

Wagner - meh

Challinor - warming to the idea of that - yes

Mowbray - God no

Rowett- definitely

Karanka - God no

Duff - Definitely 

Rooney - God no, been a disaster everywhere he's been, but like the idea of the Club being in the public spotlight so for that reason would like Gerrard ( not that he'd come).

[Comfortably numb]

Thought for the day..

12 months ago John Eustace left Blackburn Rovers who were 7th in the Championship to join Derby County who were 21st and only outside the relegation places on goal difference.

12 months later Derby County sit 7th in the Championship. Meanwhile Blackburn Rovers sit 21st, outside of the relegation places on goal difference.

We wouldn't be needing a new manager if the guy had been backed by the owners

😡😡😡

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Comfortably numb

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Comfortably numb said:

Thought for the day..

12 months ago John Eustace left Blackburn Rovers who were 7th in the Championship to join Derby County who were 21st and only outside the relegation places on goal difference.

12 months later Derby County sit 7th in the Championship. Meanwhile Blackburn Rovers sit 21st, outside of the relegation places on goal difference.

😡😡😡

 

But he's a greedy barsteward who only left for the extra 10 -12 k p.w.

Have you not heard?

[norwichblue]

3 minutes ago, Comfortably numb said:

Thought for the day..

12 months ago John Eustace left Blackburn Rovers who were 7th in the Championship to join Derby County who were 21st and only outside the relegation places on goal difference.

12 months later Derby County sit 7th in the Championship. Meanwhile Blackburn Rovers sit 21st, outside of the relegation places on goal difference.

We wouldn't be needing a new manager if the guy had been backed by the owners

😡😡😡

 

Played out exactly how we all expected it to. Derby have owners that care, we don’t. I resent them purely out of jealousy, but can’t begrudge Eustace or any of the others when viewing their actions through a rational lens.

[LeftWinger]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Savage - yes- would be fine with that. 

Coleman - God no

Bilic - definitely but can't see it happening if he thinks he has any chance whatsoever of being parachuted into West Ham

Wagner - meh

Challinor - warming to the idea of that - yes

Mowbray - God no

Rowett- definitely

Karanka - God no

Duff - Definitely 

Rooney - God no, been a disaster everywhere he's been, but like the idea of the Club being in the public spotlight so for that reason would like Gerrard ( not that he'd come).

Agree with every single one of those assessments. 

[Lancaster Rover]

I honestly have no idea how people would be fine with Savage. He's managed a team in step 3 (who he was joint owner of and had a wage bill circa 4 times the 2nd highest teams wage bill)  and he's now 4th in the National League with a team who were recently in league 2 and given their owners investment you'd expect them to be up there amongst the top spend. If the teams around him win their respective games in hand they'll drop to 6th. I mean come on, that's not exactly a CV to get excited about. 

[AndyB]

Do we know if anybody has been offered an interview/the job yet and turned it down?

[Wegerleswiggle]

4 minutes ago, AndyB said:

Do we know if anybody has been offered an interview/the job yet and turned it down?

Ali from Ali's kebabs

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

Ali from Ali's kebabs

The kebab would be a better option than Coleman.

[JHRover]

4 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

I honestly have no idea how people would be fine with Savage. He's managed a team in step 3 (who he was joint owner of and had a wage bill circa 4 times the 2nd highest teams wage bill)  and he's now 4th in the National League with a team who were recently in league 2 and given their owners investment you'd expect them to be up there amongst the top spend. If the teams around him win their respective games in hand they'll drop to 6th. I mean come on, that's not exactly a CV to get excited about. 

I think a 70% win record across 2 clubs in only 2 seasons as a manager, albeit in the National League and below, is more reason to be encouraged than say a Coleman or Richardson, who have failed to impress in numerous jobs, or perhaps a Duff whose only track record is in the Irish league.

I agree it is a risk and by no means ideal but some people walk straight into League jobs as their first opportunities others aren't so fortunate and have to work their way up

People like Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard went straight into decent sized clubs at a high level and nobody batted an eyelid because of their 'big names', I don't think a couple of seasons in the non-leagues should be held against Savage, if anything it is a good grounding before taking a step up.

Whether he wants to gamble his reputation on this sorry excuse of a football club is another matter, it would certainly be tempting to the Forest Green manager,

[Lancaster Rover]

If we're hell bent on using Adam Owens' Ex Player/Welsh networks then we'd be better off waiting until after the upcoming WC qualifiers or WC and going after Craig Bellamy. 

[davulsukur]

I still think it will be a coach, stepping into their first senior management role. A Ryan Mason type appointment.

The club have driven away 3 managers in 3 years, even though Ismael was "sacked", it's alleged his time came to an end after falling out with RG.

A coach in their first gig, will just do as they are told.

[Lancaster Rover]

1 minute ago, JHRover said:

I think a 70% win record across 2 clubs in only 2 seasons as a manager, albeit in the National League and below, is more reason to be encouraged than say a Coleman or Richardson, who have failed to impress in numerous jobs, or perhaps a Duff whose only track record is in the Irish league.

I agree it is a risk and by no means ideal but some people walk straight into League jobs as their first opportunities others aren't so fortunate and have to work their way up

People like Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard went straight into decent sized clubs at a high level and nobody batted an eyelid because of their 'big names', I don't think a couple of seasons in the non-leagues should be held against Savage, if anything it is a good grounding before taking a step up.

Whether he wants to gamble his reputation on this sorry excuse of a football club is another matter, it would certainly be tempting to the Forest Green manager,

Not to be like a dog with a bone, but he had a full time team playing against lads who train once a week. Christ the Lancaster manager is a train driver monday to Friday and they train once a week, that's who he was up against and doing it with players who who were by and large at higher level clubs but dropped down for better wages a la Wrexham. 

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, AndyB said:

Do we know if anybody has been offered an interview/the job yet and turned it down?

Offered the job?

Do you not know we have a tried and trusted process of 

- Drawing up an initial shortlist

- Whittling it down to the final shortlist

- Holding an initial round of interviews

- Holding a 2nd round of interviews

-Calling the last two standing into a final interview

- And if we havent pissed them both off by that point, offering one of them the job!

😉

[G Somerset Rover]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Offered the job?

Do you not know we have a tried and trusted process of 

- Drawing up an initial shortlist

- Whittling it down to the final shortlist

- Holding an initial round of interviews

- Holding a 2nd round of interviews

-Calling the last two standing into a final interview

- And if we havent pissed them both off by that point, offering one of them the job!

😉

100%. And NONE of that starts until the existing manager leaves the post. 

Then it's: "Oh shit, Johnson says he doesn't want it permanently again. I guess we should probably start putting some feelers out to agents."

[FE123]

Our best opportunity for me is a Savage or a Duff, know the club in its best form, would clearly be a step up for them, but both played at the top level and know what it takes to be successful. Worked with elite players and will galvanise supporters and players over the next few months.

I would find a Wagner/ Rowett appointment uninspiring and think it would likely leave us in the same situation as we are now in 12 months time, when they get sick of Venky’s/ Rudy and Suhail.

Coleman would be a joke appointment and surely Mowbray/ Warnock and Allardyces days are over.

[Wegerleswiggle]

8 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I still think it will be a coach, stepping into their first senior management role. A Ryan Mason type appointment.

The club have driven away 3 managers in 3 years, even though Ismael was "sacked", it's alleged his time came to an end after falling out with RG.

A coach in their first gig, will just do as they are told.

Oh Christ, it's gonna be Phil Jones isn't it?