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Plants on LET and social media and some would say here -I couldn't possibly comment. 🙂

Totally guessing and tongue in cheek but... Pasha not liking comparisons to Putin (ie cross me and you're out)- so contrary, make it hard to lose Leonard? I know, realms of conspiracy which is definitely not my style but hey, transfer stuff is thrown out here willy nilly 😉 Edit But no, it's just the cash, isn't it? 🙂

Can't argue with that. Everyone got a crib sheet for the names and positions? 😉 Don't rely on the scoreboard. 😉

In Ryoya morishita 28 midfield-legia warsaw euros 2.1m Sidnei Tavares 23 –midfield –Portugal euros 2m Axel Henriksson – 23- euros 860k Lewis Miller 24 - right back –Hibs (Australian) euros 860k Dion de Neve 24-midfiled –euros 759k Ryan Alebiousu 23 right back – euros 576k Sean McLoughlin-28-centre back-Hull euros 575k Moussa Baradji – 24 –loan Total expenditure = Euros 7.73m Out Travis Euros 3.5m? Joe Rankin Costello 25 Charlton euros 870k Callum Brittain 27 Middlesborough euros 3.5m???? John Buckley 25 Al-Kolood euros 1m???? Tyrhys Dolan 23 Espanyol –free (wages saved)? Andreas Weimann 33 Derby free (wages saved)? Danny Baath 34 Derby free (wages saved)? Jordan eastham 23 free (wages saved)? Jalil saadi-free transfer Cauley Woodrow end of loan Jack vale-without club O’riordan-loan Dilan markandy -free ACD – end of loan Beck – end of loan Dennis –end of loan Sanderson – end of loan Total Income = euros 8.87m So thus far, spend = circa euros 1.14m

I never get the ire directed at him. Flopped here, true but did good elsewhere. It happens a lot - both ways. Ie we get someone who we think is uselesss, they go on somewhere and do well. And vice versa. All about timing, luck, surrounding players and all sorts of other factors. One that sticks in my mind is Franny Jeffers -not necessarily his time here but he looked cracking at Everton and then went to Arsenal? and flopped. Stars wax and wane. And also, your shelf life can be short. A striker can be the dogs for a bit and then there is another one off the rank. edit I guess it was the price tag for Davies and he didn't do much (but not entirely his fault).

I thought it was the other way round. Always sad to see young players go but business is business I guess.

For what? League position? (We let it go that 3 of those named aren't here yet)

Indeed!

First part, of course. Went on running costs. Second part, agreed too. Let's hope the conveyor belt is still running.

Good edit 😉

It's almost as if the Academy will be surplus to requirements...but for another day and another thread maybe.

Time and results will tell. Look foward to 7th or above. Certainly saved on wages. Matchday will be interesting - so many permutations and changes. Going to be fun.

Too big a wage? Maybe Jan?

RG has sold Pahsa the idea that no player should be paid above 10k a week and success (not promotion because he has stated that is not the aim) can still be achieved. Outgoings are broadly similar to income (will be if a new striker comes in) but plenty has been saved on wages, Raya money, backroom staff, SWAG etc). Agents presumably still being paid.

Crossed Pasha over the liaison officer debacle?

Well we have got close recently with various models and with a little more backing could have made it (but then it would seem there is a gateaway to the Rao's that doesn't even ask for said backing). Looks like we are now all lined up (!) to try the method you say above. History does not make me confident. edit But if it brings playoffs/promotion and new owners, bring it on.

Not really, it would make my wife very gloomy. What I was tryng to suggest is that the trinity are on to a good thing and can spin it either way. So, if we do well under the new model, then cost reduction justified. If we don't, then they have ready made excuses. I'm beginning to see JBiz's point (on another thread) re the conundrum of the best way to get rid of the Venkys.

Thanks for taking the time but I'm still a little unclear (thick!) If Vs walked away would we have to find 130m?

So to be clear: those loans are owed by the club not Venkys? if the Vs left tomorrow we would have to find the loans? I thought the loans were just sitting on a balance sheet ie not crystalised yet or called in by varous banks etc.

Are we? I thought they had taken out loans and various financial instruments - this figure (who knows how accurate) is not owed by the club.

After some thought, I do see now what you are saying. And agreed that all efforts should be on finding new owners. Some would argue that the removal of Pasha could move this along. But I don’t see your solutions working –ie. washing our face, success with minimal funding in this division thus making us more attractive to potential buyers. -The Raos/Pasha would just be delighted that things can run along with no input. -There would still be the impediment that thus far, the Raos have rejected all offers out of hand. -There would still be the impediment that they want to recover their loss The other ways would appear to be: -Promotion, lots of cash and an exit -Adverse publicity in India or anything that makes their lives uncomfortable -Relegation, administration -Some method of the supposed 200m being written off

Yeah, but no, but yeah. 😉 (But that's how life is, complicated and good post.)

Yes indeed. You never felt like it would really happen. What is interesting to me is that the new narrative is that some of those players were responsible, tired old faces who never quite got it done. There may be truth there but I find it harsh. Those same players (and respective managers) just needed some more backing. It will run and run. But the new orthodoxy in town has for now taken hold. Only a run of bad results will shift it and even then there will be plenty of voices around to step in and provide excuses. 🙂

Not married then? 🙂

I find it more awkward -it used to be in blue I think. Now hard to tell if up to date on a thread or not.